View Poll Results: have you gotten blood work for both otc pct's and serm pcts?

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  • yes i have done both. my test was higher when using a serm for pct than otc pct

    14 19.44%
  • yes i have done both. my test was higher when using an otc pct than when using a serm

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  • No i haven't and when I say nolva > otc pct its because i'm a sheeple

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  • No. I just read what old members wrote and repeat it like a parrot.

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    Originally Posted by Problem View Post
    When you end up with boobs, you will run back and get a SERM, so why not just use it.

    OTC and SERMS, both WORK, but it's a preference to which you feel safer using.

    I'll have a blood work soon this upcoming week. Lets see if nolva got me back, altho i'm 100% it did, i was 0% libido from 6 week cycle, i'm near 80% now. proof? my wood and sex!
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    bump just saw this thread. Anyone else have any imput.
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    the problem:sheeple tend to obsessively repeat what seems to be the truth,just because they read it 300 times a day;it's a viral diffusion,more sheeple will repeat that mantra,then more and so on.
    Ask some of theese 18 years old noobs if they know a **** about how exactly SERMs and AI work for example....
    Some of us have actual proofs and balls enough to contest this idiotic estabilishment. Nolva as a staple for pct...WTF
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    OTC PCT (that I put together for first cycle) didn't recover me AS WELL as Reversitol has for my PCT on my second cycle. Still gaining amazingly.

    Point being: Reversitol>Everything else IMO.

    That is all.

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    Originally Posted by Wisdom15 View Post
    OTC PCT (that I put together for first cycle) didn't recover me AS WELL as Reversitol has for my PCT on my second cycle. Still gaining amazingly.

    Point being: Reversitol>Everything else IMO.

    That is all.

    EDIT: No sheeple/parrot.
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    Originally Posted by peteypab View Post
    I'm glad you have had a postive experience with Reversitol.
    Seriously, the stuff is great.

    After cycle I was DB Benchpressing 100x6-7, now I'm on the third week of Reversitol and its up to 100x10. Gains in PCT tells me something is working.
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    Originally Posted by Wisdom15 View Post
    Seriously, the stuff is great.

    After cycle I was DB Benchpressing 100x6-7, now I'm on the third week of Reversitol and its up to 100x10. Gains in PCT tells me something is working.
    Thats good your still gaining, good stuff.
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    we probably will never get a definitive answer on this. not enough people get bloodwork done. i think the user has to decide for themselves. educate yourself and ask what chances you are willing to take. there are chances with just about every route you go (unless you have access to legit pharm grade SERMS). with an OTC option from a reputable company like reversitol, you know what you're getting. no question as to what is in the capsules. with no true research done on the product, one has to go off the bro-logs and few bloodworks out there. with a SERM you have actual research showing it's influence on the HPTA (specifically clomid).

    with that i think something that gets overlooked in the SERM/OTC PCT debate is age. in your early 20's i would imagine that your natty test is going to come back online much quicker after a cycle than us mid-30 somethings. at 22, your HPTA might be restored after 30-45 days without much of anything. again, we don't have much data on this stuff.

    it just comes down to what you want to put your faith in. there is no definitive answer...
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    Originally Posted by Wisdom15 View Post
    Seriously, the stuff is great.

    After cycle I was DB Benchpressing 100x6-7, now I'm on the third week of Reversitol and its up to 100x10. Gains in PCT tells me something is working.

    I'm in my 3rd week PCT with reversitol, I seemed to keep gaining. Definitely a great product.
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    I chose the parrot one because it was the closest to "I do as much research as I can and try to make my conclusions on what people I trust have concluded."


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    I will find out after my P-Plex/H-Drol cycle, using Reversitol.
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    You need SERM brosafari

    Great thread Vaughn
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    Originally Posted by Supplement-Slut View Post
    You need SERM brosafari

    Great thread Vaughn
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    Originally Posted by iForce_Pete View Post
    I'm glad you have had a postive experience with Reversitol.
    ^^^^^ anyone ever hear from Pete again? kid like disappeared.
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    Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    ^^^^^ anyone ever hear from Pete again? kid like disappeared.
    I was wondering the same thing
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    Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    ^^^^^ anyone ever hear from Pete again? kid like disappeared.
    Originally Posted by Supplement-Slut View Post
    I was wondering the same thing
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    Blood work at 4 weeks of Clomid - 25mg

    TT 1270
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    Blood work on BioForge V1

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    From experience-Reversitol v1 and A.I. pcs> P.P.testosterone recovery stack. As for nolva...I will find out soon enough.
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    strong bumpage

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    Haha sick thread Vaughn. From the research tests me and my brother have partaken in (I cannot disclose anything about it, by contract, because it was not our lab nor our $$$) I am never, ever going near research chem and I would use otc over it anyday. Pharma grade is a diff story, which I personally would use for CHOICE ds. I am comfortable with reversitol v1 as my primary otc with a divanil based t booster worked in.
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    i am totally a OTC guy. have done just about as many cycles you can emagine. i do very well with OTC even before people were making them in cocktails like reversitol and the likes
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