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View Poll Results: have you gotten blood work for both otc pct's and serm pcts?
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yes i have done both. my test was higher when using a serm for pct than otc pct
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yes i have done both. my test was higher when using an otc pct than when using a serm
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No i haven't and when I say nolva > otc pct its because i'm a sheeple
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No. I just read what old members wrote and repeat it like a parrot.
37 51.39%
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11-30-2008, 01:28 PM #61Certitude is the enemy of wisdom.
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11-30-2008, 01:34 PM #62
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12-18-2008, 02:27 PM #63
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12-18-2008, 02:41 PM #64
the problem:sheeple tend to obsessively repeat what seems to be the truth,just because they read it 300 times a day;it's a viral diffusion,more sheeple will repeat that mantra,then more and so on.
Ask some of theese 18 years old noobs if they know a **** about how exactly SERMs and AI work for example....
Some of us have actual proofs and balls enough to contest this idiotic estabilishment. Nolva as a staple for pct...WTFOlympus Labs/Lyfestyle Research & Development (R&D) Director
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12-18-2008, 02:42 PM #65
OTC PCT (that I put together for first cycle) didn't recover me AS WELL as Reversitol has for my PCT on my second cycle. Still gaining amazingly.
Point being: Reversitol>Everything else IMO.
That is all.
EDIT: No sheeple/parrot."The worst thing I could be is just like everyone else."- Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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12-18-2008, 02:46 PM #66
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12-18-2008, 02:58 PM #67
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12-18-2008, 02:59 PM #68
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12-18-2008, 03:11 PM #69
we probably will never get a definitive answer on this. not enough people get bloodwork done. i think the user has to decide for themselves. educate yourself and ask what chances you are willing to take. there are chances with just about every route you go (unless you have access to legit pharm grade SERMS). with an OTC option from a reputable company like reversitol, you know what you're getting. no question as to what is in the capsules. with no true research done on the product, one has to go off the bro-logs and few bloodworks out there. with a SERM you have actual research showing it's influence on the HPTA (specifically clomid).
with that i think something that gets overlooked in the SERM/OTC PCT debate is age. in your early 20's i would imagine that your natty test is going to come back online much quicker after a cycle than us mid-30 somethings. at 22, your HPTA might be restored after 30-45 days without much of anything. again, we don't have much data on this stuff.
it just comes down to what you want to put your faith in. there is no definitive answer...
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12-18-2008, 04:58 PM #70
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04-05-2010, 08:00 AM #75
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04-05-2010, 09:13 AM #82
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04-05-2010, 09:25 AM #83
Haha sick thread Vaughn. From the research tests me and my brother have partaken in (I cannot disclose anything about it, by contract, because it was not our lab nor our $$$) I am never, ever going near research chem and I would use otc over it anyday. Pharma grade is a diff story, which I personally would use for CHOICE ds. I am comfortable with reversitol v1 as my primary otc with a divanil based t booster worked in.
Last edited by Volumizer; 04-05-2010 at 09:28 AM.
Turn up the volume....
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04-05-2010, 09:45 AM #84
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