2Burnt gets down with PEA

[2Burnt]

This log will be my first log as well as my first use of a nootropic supplement. So bear with me on lack of style and detailed information. Any suggestions of any kind that would make this a better log as I go along would be appreciated.
Also, let me thank Steve for this opportunity and consideration he has shown me in getting this log up.

Here is a little information on PEA.
L-Pheylethylamine is a naturally occuring neuromine that is found in chocolate and is produced in the from D-phenylalanine. It is chemically related to neurotransmitters dopamine and norepinephrine.

Neurochemical effects
-Neuromodulator of actecholamine activity(Enhances transmission of dopamine and norepinephrine)
-AMPA receptor stimulant(Increases acetylcholine release through glutamatergic system)

[2Burnt]

First initial dose was 250 mg. Extremely low in comparison to what others are taking, but this is my first go around. So I'll be taking baby steps. After 45 minutes of taking the dose I felt a better all around mood. The only side effect noticed was a rise in body temperature and I was more talkative. Which I thought to be interesting. In my recreational drug use in the past, elevated body temp and being talkative was a normal thing. I also noticed a level of peacefulness, not sure if that was in relation to the PEA or just that I was having a good day already.

[2Burnt]

This time I upped the dose to 500 mg. I was suprised that the effects were about the same. Everything felt the same with the exception of body temp. There seemed to be no elevation this time. I felt my focus, mood, and attentiveness were all comparable to the prior day. I forgot to rate those in my last post, so let me do that now. On day one, I felt on a scale of 1-10 that I had 7 realting to focus, mood, and attentiveness.

[2Burnt]

This time around I took a 750 mg dose in the morning. By mid-morning I was so exhausted from the day before I took a power nap. Woke up sweating and couldnt notice anything else relating to my dose of PEA. It really suprised me. So around 3:00 pm, I decided to take another dose. Wasnt entirely sure of what a good dose would be. So I went ahead and took another 750 mg dose.
I ended up not having any regrets. I felt a slight rise in body temp and a awesome increase in my mood. I was ready to take on anything at this time. I really felt good. I had a meeting at 8:30 pm and was on point. I would say my focus and mood were at a 10. With my attentiveness at a strong 9.
So now that I see there is something to this stuff. Im really curious on exact dosing and timing. Having split the doses, Im not sure if one dose to the next had more to do with the effectiveness or the fact that being exhausted during the first dose nullifed the effects. I'll be playing with the doses from here on out, taking suggestions along the way.

[2Burnt]

Today I took 1250 mg at breakfast. Body temp is kicking in. I feel better than I did an hour ago. I would say my focus is at an 8.5, mood at an 8, and my attentiveness is at an 8. The effects are there. Not sure if Im not noticing how effective the PEA is or if its not as effective as yesterday. Today I havent got into much yet and yesterday I really started seeing the effects more as I was doing things. When I originally thought of using PEA, I was thinking of it as going to have a 'High' to it. Im seeing at this point its not profound like I thought it would be. What I can say it compares to in my opinion is methamphetamine. Which for those who dont know, causes a sense of well being high versus a euphoric 'high' that other recreational drugs cause.
So far, I must say Im liking this.

[Squat2Grow]

subbed in looking forward to this log! PEA def has a "high" if used in high enough doses. if you handled 1,250mg fine then I'd go with 1,500mg all at once and then 500mg 15 minutes later on an empty or near empty stomach. That should up the power of PEA significantly for you!

any questions, feel free to ask me

[2Burnt]

Originally Posted by Squat2Grow

subbed in looking forward to this log! PEA def has a "high" if used in high enough doses. if you handled 1,250mg fine then I'd go with 1,500mg all at once and then 500mg 15 minutes later on an empty or near empty stomach. That should up the power of PEA significantly for you!

any questions, feel free to ask me

Thanks for the input. Do you know how long PEA's effects are supposed to last. It seems to me that it starts kicking in at 45 minutes, but I really seem to notice the full effects at 2 hours. I also havent seen a crash in effects like some have said. Its more like a gradual tapering off. Not sure if its cause I havent used a truly large dose or if thats just the way it works for me.

[CognitiveNutrition]

Originally Posted by 2Burnt

Thanks for the input. Do you know how long PEA's effects are supposed to last. It seems to me that it starts kicking in at 45 minutes, but I really seem to notice the full effects at 2 hours. I also havent seen a crash in effects like some have said. Its more like a gradual tapering off. Not sure if its cause I havent used a truly large dose or if thats just the way it works for me.

Phase 1 effects lasts 10-60 minutes with phase 2 lasting most of the day.
Be sure to take it on an empty stomach (2-3 hours after or 15-30 mins before).
A common dose for most BBs seems to be 1.5 grams followed by 500-750 mg 15 mins later.

Are you on any other supplements btw?

[yujin0099]

hey quick question, i have the 500mg capsules so i should take 3, then 1 more after 15min later?

how long does the focus last and can i use it at night time?

[Squat2Grow]

Originally Posted by yujin0099

hey quick question, i have the 500mg capsules so i should take 3, then 1 more after 15min later?

how long does the focus last and can i use it at night time?

first i'd assess your tolerance to PEA. so if you haven't already take 1 cap and then the next time go with 2 caps. If everything is fine then what I'd do is go with either 2 caps with 1 15 minutes later (1,500mg total) or my regular dosing which is 1,500 (3 caps) followed up with 1 cap (500mg) 15 minutes later

the euphoric rush may last up to an hour, but you should notice increased focus for a large part of your day. You can use it at night time, it is nothing like caff which makes it hard to go to bed if you take at night.

Also another option to try is to down 3 caps immediately before passing out. I notice when I do that I have amazing dreams, restful sleep, and I wake up feeling refreshed and happier than when I do not take them pre-bed.

If you have any more questions please feel free to ask!

[2Burnt]

Originally Posted by CognitiveNutrition

Phase 1 effects lasts 10-60 minutes with phase 2 lasting most of the day.
Be sure to take it on an empty stomach (2-3 hours after or 15-30 mins before).
A common dose for most BBs seems to be 1.5 grams followed by 500-750 mg 15 mins later.

Are you on any other supplements btw?

The only thing Im using right now is Fish Oil. Plus, protein bars if you would count that as a supp. Im trying to get my diet and training back on point before getting back to all the supps.

[2Burnt]

Originally Posted by 2Burnt

Today I took 1250 mg at breakfast. Body temp is kicking in. I feel better than I did an hour ago. I would say my focus is at an 8.5, mood at an 8, and my attentiveness is at an 8. The effects are there. Not sure if Im not noticing how effective the PEA is or if its not as effective as yesterday. Today I havent got into much yet and yesterday I really started seeing the effects more as I was doing things. When I originally thought of using PEA, I was thinking of it as going to have a 'High' to it. Im seeing at this point its not profound like I thought it would be. What I can say it compares to in my opinion is methamphetamine. Which for those who dont know, causes a sense of well being high versus a euphoric 'high' that other recreational drugs cause.
So far, I must say Im liking this.

Felt my first crash somewhere between 5 and 6 hours later. Took a 500 mg dose soon thereafter and got a pretty bad headache forr 15-20 minutes. Then the rest of the day I felt good.

[2Burnt]

Lowered the dose a little bit after experiencing a headache yesterday. Took 1000 mg at 11:00 am and then 500 mg at 11:30. Really didnt see any effects at all. Maybe because Im getting used to the PEA. Not sure.

[2Burnt]

Took 500 mg and 9:40 am and then 1000mg at 10:40 am. At this point Im just playing with dosages and dosing schedule. It definitely seemed better when I took the 1000 mg dose prior to the 500 mg dose. So at noon I took 500 mg and felt pretty decent.
At 7 pm I took another 1000 mg dose. I would say between 8 and 9 pm I was feeling at a 9 on mood and an 8 in attentiveness and focus. Still having the talkative side effect but Im very cogintive of it and channel it during meetings and find that Im on point with everything.

[2Burnt]

My first doise was 1250 mg at 4 pm followed by 1500 mg at 5 pm. Felt really good. I felt I was at a 9 in all category's(mood,focus,attentiveness). Took two more 1000 mg doses at 8pm and 8:30pm. I handled the doses well with no sides. Didnt really see a huge difference in effects even though these were high doses for me. I think Im getting closer to finding how I should dose the PEA.

[2Burnt]

Took 1750 mg dose at 12:30 pm. I was straight zooming. I was loving the effect and didnt experience any crash at all. Ive actually only had one crash since using PEA. At 4:30 pm I took 1500 mg and didnt get to the same spot as before but definitely maintained at the feel good mood. Today, my mood almost hit 10. I would say probably a 9.5, but Im tempted to say 10. My focus and attentiveness were a steady 9.

[2Burnt]

Took 1500 mg at 3:45 pm and another 1500 mg at 5pm. Too much, too soon. My mind was really going. I also got into a situation where I was being accused of things and I got through it pretty well in explaining everything. I was on point with everything I said even though I was getting the run down. I ended not losing the battle nor did I win. Unfortunately a person in authority was covering his own ass trying accuse me of being untruthful. In the end, the man above us both seen that I didnt skip a beat in the accusations against me. Howver, I did feel a little scattered in thought. Cant say if it was cause of the PEA or the situation. In any event, everything worked out.

[2Burnt]

Dosed 1500 mg at 10:30 am. About to take another 500 mg. Im almost thinking at this point that Im better off starting at 1750 mg and another 500 mg. Still kind of playing with the doses.

[Squat2Grow]

looking great man i'm subbed in!! If you have any questions don't be afraid to ask me

I like your dosing of 1,500mg followed up with 500mg 10-15 mins later. That is my usual dose

[CognitiveNutrition]

Originally Posted by 2Burnt

Lowered the dose a little bit after experiencing a headache yesterday. Took 1000 mg at 11:00 am and then 500 mg at 11:30. Really didnt see any effects at all. Maybe because Im getting used to the PEA. Not sure.

Originally Posted by 2Burnt

Took 500 mg and 9:40 am and then 1000mg at 10:40 am. At this point Im just playing with dosages and dosing schedule. It definitely seemed better when I took the 1000 mg dose prior to the 500 mg dose. So at noon I took 500 mg and felt pretty decent.
At 7 pm I took another 1000 mg dose. I would say between 8 and 9 pm I was feeling at a 9 on mood and an 8 in attentiveness and focus. Still having the talkative side effect but Im very cogintive of it and channel it during meetings and find that Im on point with everything.

Originally Posted by 2Burnt

My first doise was 1250 mg at 4 pm followed by 1500 mg at 5 pm. Felt really good. I felt I was at a 9 in all category's(mood,focus,attentiveness). Took two more 1000 mg doses at 8pm and 8:30pm. I handled the doses well with no sides. Didnt really see a huge difference in effects even though these were high doses for me. I think Im getting closer to finding how I should dose the PEA.

Originally Posted by 2Burnt

Took 1750 mg dose at 12:30 pm. I was straight zooming. I was loving the effect and didnt experience any crash at all. Ive actually only had one crash since using PEA. At 4:30 pm I took 1500 mg and didnt get to the same spot as before but definitely maintained at the feel good mood. Today, my mood almost hit 10. I would say probably a 9.5, but Im tempted to say 10. My focus and attentiveness were a steady 9.

Originally Posted by 2Burnt

Took 1500 mg at 3:45 pm and another 1500 mg at 5pm. Too much, too soon. My mind was really going. I also got into a situation where I was being accused of things and I got through it pretty well in explaining everything. I was on point with everything I said even though I was getting the run down. I ended not losing the battle nor did I win. Unfortunately a person in authority was covering his own ass trying accuse me of being untruthful. In the end, the man above us both seen that I didnt skip a beat in the accusations against me. Howver, I did feel a little scattered in thought. Cant say if it was cause of the PEA or the situation. In any event, everything worked out.

Originally Posted by 2Burnt

Dosed 1500 mg at 10:30 am. About to take another 500 mg. Im almost thinking at this point that Im better off starting at 1750 mg and another 500 mg. Still kind of playing with the doses.

Glad to see you had some great days there. Hopefully we can make it everyday.

Taking a second dose should be done 10 mins this helps the effect start and maintain longer. I would suggest taking any future dose in 2 parts within 10 mins (1 gram followed by 500 mg 10 mins later or 1.5 followed by 500-750 mg). When you take just 1 gram it seems your body breaks it down too fast for it to have any effects. This is why timing of doses is very important.

Here's some basics if it helps.

1. Always on an empty stomach 2-3 hours after a meal or 15-30 mins before.
2. Taking it with coffee can enhance it's effects.
3. Do not take phenibut before taking pea.
4. Start with 1 cap for the first 2 days to assess effects if you feel it's not strong enough take 1 cap and another one 10-15 mins later. If that does not seem to help take 2 caps at once. Then the next step is 2 caps followed by 1 cap 15 mins later. and so on.
5. One dosing a day is usually enough. However some people prefer taking a dose 2-3 times a day.
6. Mornings and early afternoons are the best time to take it.
7. Take 2 days off a week.

[2Burnt]

Taking days off is something I havent done yet. Im assuming it'll lose effect if taken on too many consecutive days. Also, is there a time period(cycle) that should be followed.

[2Burnt]

Took 1500 mg around noon before lunch. Then followed up with 500 mg at 7 pm and then another 500 mg at 9 pm. Felt good all day even through a frustrating process that want seem to quit. I noticied I tend to get overly excited when something that angers me happens. However, Im like that anyways. But there seems to be a little enhancement of that while taking PEA. Not to an extreme though. I still felt comfortable following with more doses.

[2Burnt]

Today I split my doses at 1500 mg at 9 am and then 500 mg shortly thereafter. Im feel pretty good at the moment. But I usually dont really notice how effective the doses are until several hours later. Easier analysis for me at a later time. I'll probably take sometime in between my next dose as recommeded and the try a higher all at once dose.

[CognitiveNutrition]

Originally Posted by 2Burnt

Taking days off is something I havent done yet. Im assuming it'll lose effect if taken on too many consecutive days. Also, is there a time period(cycle) that should be followed.

2 days off a week, weekends work for most people.

[CognitiveNutrition]

Originally Posted by 2Burnt

Took 1500 mg around noon before lunch. Then followed up with 500 mg at 7 pm and then another 500 mg at 9 pm. Felt good all day even through a frustrating process that want seem to quit. I noticied I tend to get overly excited when something that angers me happens. However, Im like that anyways. But there seems to be a little enhancement of that while taking PEA. Not to an extreme though. I still felt comfortable following with more doses.

I think your dosing is ineffective as your 7 and 9 pm dose is well worthless. PEA under a effective dose is metabolized without having any meaningful effect.

1 dosing in the morning seems ideal for most of our loggers. Like 1.5 followed by 500 mg 10 mins later. You should be feeling an powerful effect within 20 mins of dosing PEA it should be obvious and hitting you strongly. If not your dose is too low or it's not being dosed right.

[Squat2Grow]

I second the motion that you should try 1.5g +500mg 10 min later dosing early in the morning. Whenever I do that I am all day!!

[2Burnt]

Originally Posted by CognitiveNutrition

I think your dosing is ineffective as your 7 and 9 pm dose is well worthless. PEA under a effective dose is metabolized without having any meaningful effect.

1 dosing in the morning seems ideal for most of our loggers. Like 1.5 followed by 500 mg 10 mins later. You should be feeling an powerful effect within 20 mins of dosing PEA it should be obvious and hitting you strongly. If not your dose is too low or it's not being dosed right.

That could be true since I still might be feeling the effects from the early doses.

[2Burnt]

I was left with 2000 mg to finish off my bottle. I dosed it all in the am. Seemed the same as taking 1500 mg followed by 500 mg. I think my next go around I'll get the bulk powder and keep the doses early.

[2Burnt]

For now, this log will be done. I'd like to thank Steve at Unique Nutrition for this opportunity. I enjoyed it and now I'm alot less skeptical when it comes to nootropics. I'll be getting up some more logs at some point to further explore PEA and some of the other products in this category.

[Squat2Grow]

Originally Posted by 2Burnt

For now, this log will be done. I'd like to thank Steve at Unique Nutrition for this opportunity. I enjoyed it and now I'm alot less skeptical when it comes to nootropics. I'll be getting up some more logs at some point to further explore PEA and some of the other products in this category.

Awesome log, thanks for taking the time to do it for us! Glad we could turn you into more of a believer in nootropics! I'm looking forward to your future logs with PEA as well as other nootropics from us!

BTW if you can would you mind to post a quick review? Also do you mind posting it on the main CN site? We would be very thankful!!

And remember if you have any questions about nootropics you know who to ask!

Thanks again!