Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has stated that Allah is on his side. Many Americans believe that God ( the Christian God) is siding with them. The outcome of this war will undoubtedly reveal which God is real and which is a figment of the imagination of his worshippers. We may ultimately find out that a stalement will occur, that neither God is even involved in such Earthly affairs. My fervent belief is that God will win and Allah will be revealed as nothing more than a cruel hoax played on devoted Muslims worldwide.
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03-29-2003, 08:34 AM #1
Who Is The Real Deity: Allah or Jesus?
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03-29-2003, 09:23 AM #6
Ignorant crap.
Uh... "Allah" is just the Arabic word for God. Arab Christians say Allah. By the way, I hate to tell you, but Jews, Christians and Muslims believe in the same "God" per se, they just disagree on how to worship him, and other important points.
Example: Muslims think Jesus was a prophet, just not the final prophet (Muhamad) who had the "last word" as it were...
Crap, I'm an orthodox athiest and I know this?Orthodox Atheist.
Concealed Hatred Is Cowardice - Henry Rollins.
"I will not attack your doctrines nor your creeds if they accord liberty to me. If they hold thought to be dangerous - if they aver that doubt is a crime, then I attack them one and all, because they enslave the minds of men." -The Ghosts, 1877
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03-29-2003, 09:37 AM #7
This war will finally decide where God's loyalties lie. Of course Pakistan and India are currently sparring as well. An American victory and an Indian victory will cast Allah out. An Indian victory and an Iraqi victory will spell the death knell of the Christian God. Allah vs. God vs. Vishnu: The Triple Threat Match for all the marbles in the Universe!
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03-29-2003, 09:40 AM #8Uh... "Allah" is just the Arabic word for God. Arab Christians say Allah. By the way, I hate to tell you, but Jews, Christians and Muslims believe in the same "God" per se, they just disagree on how to worship him, and other important points.
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03-29-2003, 09:42 AM #9
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03-29-2003, 11:08 AM #11
this thread is so stupid i can't even put it into words...Allah means god in arabic, jesus is the son of god k...so it's like saying father against son, christain god is same as allah, or vice versa just differen't names for it...so some peeps need to go read up more rather then postin' stupid ****...let the FLAMING BEGIN
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03-29-2003, 11:14 AM #12Originally posted by Bizarre
Thats somewhat True, But The Diety Of Muslims Cannot Be the Same "Thing" of The Jedeo-Christian one For there are Vast differences between them, And btw arab christians usually Use The Word "al-rab" For their God.
Also as a note, not all Muslims call God Allah. Like guym said, it's just the Arabic word. American (or English speaking) Muslims call God ... God, and Muslims of other nationalities call God whatever God is in their language. Except of course in the prayers, but those are all in Arabic.
Anyways, it doesn't matter whether or not you're Muslim, Jew, or Christian, we all know Muhammed would whoop on Jesus. Barring any divine intervention of course
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03-29-2003, 11:15 AM #13
Isn't there an inherrent contradiction here? If the zeneth of Christianity is forgiveness and love thy neighbour, but the USA win the war, Christianity has defeated itself. On the other hand, Allah would be supporting a murderous despot, clearly against any religious principles.
Religion, nationalism; these are the causes of nearly all wars and are a threat to civilisation. How can we still believe in a God these days? Have we not taken on board reason? Religion started as an explanation of all that we couldn't explain. As explanations came from science, the Catholic church persecuted, murdered and terrorised. This is a result of fear and fear breeds hatred. Religion is obsolete. Reason is here to stay. Please open your eyes and look at evidence, facts rather than faith. Faith is a fool's paradise but detrimental to society.The Buff House, The Buff House, the Buffest, Toughest Joint in Town - Buff Club
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03-29-2003, 12:08 PM #14
God still loves you Easygainer, but unless you repent you will not inherit His Kingdom. The choice is yours and I hope you make the right one. There ample evidence of God. The Universe started at some point and because thermodynamics teaches us that matter cannot be created or destroyed it is clear that God created the Universe.
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03-29-2003, 12:14 PM #15
Re: Who Is The Real Deity: Allah or Jesus?
Originally posted by Fred Phelps
Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has stated that Allah is on his side. Many Americans believe that God ( the Christian God) is siding with them. The outcome of this war will undoubtedly reveal which God is real and which is a figment of the imagination of his worshippers. We may ultimately find out that a stalement will occur, that neither God is even involved in such Earthly affairs. My fervent belief is that God will win and Allah will be revealed as nothing more than a cruel hoax played on devoted Muslims worldwide.
Saddam's just saying that to get support. His regime is anything but religious, he's the opposite of say, Pakistan.
People using religion for their own desires, what a new ideaWhen looking out after yourself, use your head...
When looking out after others, use your heart.
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03-29-2003, 12:19 PM #16
dumb thread
When looking out after yourself, use your head...
When looking out after others, use your heart.
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If you are not liberal when you're 20, you have no heart. When you are not conservative when you're 40, you have no brain.
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Do not be restricted by any style
As there is no better or worse style
There is no superior art
There is only difference
All arts have the same basic principles
Develop what is your own
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03-29-2003, 12:43 PM #17
Re: Who Is The Real Deity: Allah or Jesus?
Originally posted by Fred Phelps
Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has stated that Allah is on his side. Many Americans believe that God ( the Christian God) is siding with them. The outcome of this war will undoubtedly reveal which God is real and which is a figment of the imagination of his worshippers. We may ultimately find out that a stalement will occur, that neither God is even involved in such Earthly affairs. My fervent belief is that God will win and Allah will be revealed as nothing more than a cruel hoax played on devoted Muslims worldwide."Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac." -Henry Kissinger
"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster . . . for when you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." -Friedrich Nietzsche
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03-29-2003, 01:49 PM #22
seeing as none of Fred's other threads (at least the ones i have seen) haven't turned into flame wars, i don't think its nesscary to delete this one. Hopefully is some people see this it ought to keep them from posting this type of ignorance again.
"Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac." -Henry Kissinger
"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster . . . for when you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." -Friedrich Nietzsche
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03-29-2003, 04:07 PM #26Originally posted by AnabolicBMX
God has nothing to do with war.
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03-29-2003, 04:25 PM #27
Re: Who Is The Real Deity: Allah or Jesus?
Originally posted by Fred Phelps
Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has stated that Allah is on his side. Many Americans believe that God ( the Christian God) is siding with them. The outcome of this war will undoubtedly reveal which God is real and which is a figment of the imagination of his worshippers. We may ultimately find out that a stalement will occur, that neither God is even involved in such Earthly affairs. My fervent belief is that God will win and Allah will be revealed as nothing more than a cruel hoax played on devoted Muslims worldwide.
And free will doesn't come into it? Why blame God for our actions?belfast biker N54 33' W05 58'
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03-29-2003, 04:27 PM #28
Oh My God... Or should I say oh Allah !!!
Some people are just so ignorant to post a stupid question like this, and some more people are even worse for trying to expand the stupidness.
Someone mentioned that Allah and God are different, can you please say how exactly? I cam't wait to hear that...
PLus, none of these two leaders Believe in God, God's being used to get the support of the close-minded people who can't see what's really going on.
damn... I can't believe I actually wasted my time to reply this thread.And David said, "The Lord who delivered me from the paw of the lion and from the paw of the bear, He will deliver me from the hand of this Philistine." And Saul said to David, "Go, and may the Lord be with you." (1 Samuel 17:37)
Thus David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone, and he struck the Philistine and killed him; but there was no sword in David’s hand. (1 Samuel 17:50)
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03-29-2003, 04:27 PM #29Originally posted by TricepsNGirls
dude religion is the entire reason why this war started. If the jews and muslims could jus learn to share land then Osama wouldnt have caused us trouble and messed up our economy. That and Bush, whuz tryin to take Saddam jus cuz he failed to find Osama."Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac." -Henry Kissinger
"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster . . . for when you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." -Friedrich Nietzsche
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03-29-2003, 07:19 PM #30
Re: Allah and Jesus
Originally posted by derekmac
Allah is not just another name for Christinaity's God. They are so very different. Maybe people should do some research before they open their mouth.
This is a stupid thread and should have never been started.
Allah is the ARABIC WORD FOR "GOD" Now yes, it has gained another connotation (i.e. related to Islam) but it is a word, not a designation.
A minor point perhaps, but major to others. And when you ignore others major points, sh*t hits the fan sometimes. It's like Dieu (French) or Gott (German) and could be used to describe any and every "god!"
P.S. The initial post in this thread is tripe. Christ, I'm amazed "Z.O.G.' hasn't been mentioned yet!Orthodox Atheist.
Concealed Hatred Is Cowardice - Henry Rollins.
"I will not attack your doctrines nor your creeds if they accord liberty to me. If they hold thought to be dangerous - if they aver that doubt is a crime, then I attack them one and all, because they enslave the minds of men." -The Ghosts, 1877
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