Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has stated that Allah is on his side. Many Americans believe that God ( the Christian God) is siding with them. The outcome of this war will undoubtedly reveal which God is real and which is a figment of the imagination of his worshippers. We may ultimately find out that a stalement will occur, that neither God is even involved in such Earthly affairs. My fervent belief is that God will win and Allah will be revealed as nothing more than a cruel hoax played on devoted Muslims worldwide.
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03-29-2003, 08:34 AM #1
Who Is The Real Deity: Allah or Jesus?
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03-29-2003, 08:41 AM #2Registered User
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Great...Now what We Needed is this Allah vs Jesus crap and Faithful followers of Both Will Start their Dumb and dumber-like Arguments.
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03-29-2003, 08:45 AM #3Registered User
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who knows maybe don king could it on ppv
i can see it know "muhammed Vs jesus" THE BOUT TO CAST THE WRONG FAITH OUT!
the undercard could be vishnu Vs buddah maybeFor the great Gaels of Ireland
Are the men that God made mad,
For all their wars are merry,
And all their songs are sad.
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03-29-2003, 08:50 AM #4
I think they should make a movie about it called "God vs. Allah 2: Battle In The Desert" The Tagline could be: " This Time Only One Will Walk Away".
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03-29-2003, 08:59 AM #5Evangelical Agnostic
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Fred Phelps isn't he that asswipe preacher from Tulsa who picketed Matthew Shepherd's funeral ?
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03-29-2003, 09:23 AM #6I read more than I post.
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Ignorant crap.
Uh... "Allah" is just the Arabic word for God. Arab Christians say Allah. By the way, I hate to tell you, but Jews, Christians and Muslims believe in the same "God" per se, they just disagree on how to worship him, and other important points.
Example: Muslims think Jesus was a prophet, just not the final prophet (Muhamad) who had the "last word" as it were...
Crap, I'm an orthodox athiest and I know this?
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03-29-2003, 09:37 AM #7
This war will finally decide where God's loyalties lie. Of course Pakistan and India are currently sparring as well. An American victory and an Indian victory will cast Allah out. An Indian victory and an Iraqi victory will spell the death knell of the Christian God. Allah vs. God vs. Vishnu: The Triple Threat Match for all the marbles in the Universe!
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03-29-2003, 09:40 AM #8Registered User
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Thats somewhat True, But The Diety Of Muslims Cannot Be the Same "Thing" of The Jedeo-Christian one For there are Vast differences between them, And btw arab christians usually Use The Word "al-rab" For their God.Uh... "Allah" is just the Arabic word for God. Arab Christians say Allah. By the way, I hate to tell you, but Jews, Christians and Muslims believe in the same "God" per se, they just disagree on how to worship him, and other important points.
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03-29-2003, 09:42 AM #9The Underestimated
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why did you even post?Originally posted by Bizarre
Great...Now what We Needed is this Allah vs Jesus crap and Faithful followers of Both Will Start their Dumb and dumber-like Arguments.
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03-29-2003, 11:03 AM #10Banned
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God has nothing to do with war.
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03-29-2003, 11:08 AM #11Registered User
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this thread is so stupid i can't even put it into words...Allah means god in arabic, jesus is the son of god k...so it's like saying father against son, christain god is same as allah, or vice versa just differen't names for it...so some peeps need to go read up more rather then postin' stupid ****...let the FLAMING BEGIN
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03-29-2003, 11:14 AM #12Cui Bono?
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By this logic then no two people can claim to worship the "same" God, because we all have different beliefs about the afterlife and God's role on Earth and watnot. But in the end, we all worship the One Almighty God, no matter what language we speak.Originally posted by Bizarre
Thats somewhat True, But The Diety Of Muslims Cannot Be the Same "Thing" of The Jedeo-Christian one For there are Vast differences between them, And btw arab christians usually Use The Word "al-rab" For their God.
Also as a note, not all Muslims call God Allah. Like guym said, it's just the Arabic word. American (or English speaking) Muslims call God ... God, and Muslims of other nationalities call God whatever God is in their language. Except of course in the prayers, but those are all in Arabic.
Anyways, it doesn't matter whether or not you're Muslim, Jew, or Christian, we all know Muhammed would whoop on Jesus. Barring any divine intervention of course
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03-29-2003, 11:15 AM #13Registered User
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Isn't there an inherrent contradiction here? If the zeneth of Christianity is forgiveness and love thy neighbour, but the USA win the war, Christianity has defeated itself. On the other hand, Allah would be supporting a murderous despot, clearly against any religious principles.
Religion, nationalism; these are the causes of nearly all wars and are a threat to civilisation. How can we still believe in a God these days? Have we not taken on board reason? Religion started as an explanation of all that we couldn't explain. As explanations came from science, the Catholic church persecuted, murdered and terrorised. This is a result of fear and fear breeds hatred. Religion is obsolete. Reason is here to stay. Please open your eyes and look at evidence, facts rather than faith. Faith is a fool's paradise but detrimental to society.The Buff House, The Buff House, the Buffest, Toughest Joint in Town - Buff Club
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03-29-2003, 12:08 PM #14
God still loves you Easygainer, but unless you repent you will not inherit His Kingdom. The choice is yours and I hope you make the right one. There ample evidence of God. The Universe started at some point and because thermodynamics teaches us that matter cannot be created or destroyed it is clear that God created the Universe.
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03-29-2003, 12:14 PM #15Registered User
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Re: Who Is The Real Deity: Allah or Jesus?
Allah is God in another languageOriginally posted by Fred Phelps
Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has stated that Allah is on his side. Many Americans believe that God ( the Christian God) is siding with them. The outcome of this war will undoubtedly reveal which God is real and which is a figment of the imagination of his worshippers. We may ultimately find out that a stalement will occur, that neither God is even involved in such Earthly affairs. My fervent belief is that God will win and Allah will be revealed as nothing more than a cruel hoax played on devoted Muslims worldwide.
Saddam's just saying that to get support. His regime is anything but religious, he's the opposite of say, Pakistan.
People using religion for their own desires, what a new idea
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03-29-2003, 12:19 PM #16Registered User
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dumb thread
When looking out after yourself, use your head...
When looking out after others, use your heart.
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If you are not liberal when you're 20, you have no heart. When you are not conservative when you're 40, you have no brain.
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Do not be restricted by any style
As there is no better or worse style
There is no superior art
There is only difference
All arts have the same basic principles
Develop what is your own
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03-29-2003, 12:43 PM #17Contrarian Tide
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Re: Who Is The Real Deity: Allah or Jesus?
This statement is pure ignorance and lack of knowledge. First things, Allah and the Christian god are the SAME god. I hardly see how this war will prove whihc one is real. The US is not doing this war for the church, in fact the US is neutral (or is by policy) toward ALL religions. Everyone and their mother knows the US will defeat Saddam, and since the US is not the church your point isnt even valid in that perspective (and certainly not in nearly every other one). Next, assuming there is an Allah/God, why would he help a brutal Iraqi ruler or a country totally against theocratic rule? Perhaps you should try to understand what you don't rather than hate something for no reason.Originally posted by Fred Phelps
Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has stated that Allah is on his side. Many Americans believe that God ( the Christian God) is siding with them. The outcome of this war will undoubtedly reveal which God is real and which is a figment of the imagination of his worshippers. We may ultimately find out that a stalement will occur, that neither God is even involved in such Earthly affairs. My fervent belief is that God will win and Allah will be revealed as nothing more than a cruel hoax played on devoted Muslims worldwide."Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac." -Henry Kissinger
"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster . . . for when you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." -Friedrich Nietzsche
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03-29-2003, 12:56 PM #18Registered User
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03-29-2003, 01:06 PM #19Registered User
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i want some mod to delete this thread before anyone starts saying anything crap about religions.
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03-29-2003, 01:33 PM #20Member
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Definitely god will win, but I'd like to see Beezlebub and Isus get into this fight. It could be a tag team match.
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03-29-2003, 01:41 PM #21Livestrong
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bumpOriginally posted by Awais
i want some mod to delete this thread before anyone starts saying anything crap about religions.
delete this ****
fred is just some wanna be fake preacher tryin to start ****
and all we need is another giant flame war
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03-29-2003, 01:49 PM #22Contrarian Tide
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seeing as none of Fred's other threads (at least the ones i have seen) haven't turned into flame wars, i don't think its nesscary to delete this one. Hopefully is some people see this it ought to keep them from posting this type of ignorance again.
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03-29-2003, 02:29 PM #23AKA: pachovia
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I'll tell you who the real deity is. Allah cruise missle and Jesues ****ing christ here comes an M-1 tank.
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03-29-2003, 02:31 PM #24Livestrong
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umOriginally posted by badbart
I'll tell you who the real deity is. Allah cruise missle and Jesues ****ing christ here comes an M-1 tank.
collect your thoughts
settle down
and try typing intelligently enough to discern
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03-29-2003, 02:35 PM #25Village Imbecile
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Allah and Jesus
Allah is not just another name for Christinaity's God. They are so very different. Maybe people should do some research before they open their mouth.
This is a stupid thread and should have never been started.
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03-29-2003, 04:07 PM #26Registered User
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dude religion is the entire reason why this war started. If the jews and muslims could jus learn to share land then Osama wouldnt have caused us trouble and messed up our economy. That and Bush, whuz tryin to take Saddam jus cuz he failed to find Osama.Originally posted by AnabolicBMX
God has nothing to do with war.
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03-29-2003, 04:25 PM #27Registered User
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Re: Who Is The Real Deity: Allah or Jesus?
Originally posted by Fred Phelps
Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has stated that Allah is on his side. Many Americans believe that God ( the Christian God) is siding with them. The outcome of this war will undoubtedly reveal which God is real and which is a figment of the imagination of his worshippers. We may ultimately find out that a stalement will occur, that neither God is even involved in such Earthly affairs. My fervent belief is that God will win and Allah will be revealed as nothing more than a cruel hoax played on devoted Muslims worldwide.
And free will doesn't come into it? Why blame God for our actions?belfast biker N54 33' W05 58'
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03-29-2003, 04:27 PM #28Rafidhi (رافضي)
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Oh My God... Or should I say oh Allah !!!
Some people are just so ignorant to post a stupid question like this, and some more people are even worse for trying to expand the stupidness.
Someone mentioned that Allah and God are different, can you please say how exactly? I cam't wait to hear that...
PLus, none of these two leaders Believe in God, God's being used to get the support of the close-minded people who can't see what's really going on.
damn... I can't believe I actually wasted my time to reply this thread.And David said, "The Lord who delivered me from the paw of the lion and from the paw of the bear, He will deliver me from the hand of this Philistine." And Saul said to David, "Go, and may the Lord be with you." (1 Samuel 17:37)
Thus David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone, and he struck the Philistine and killed him; but there was no sword in David’s hand. (1 Samuel 17:50)
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03-29-2003, 04:27 PM #29Contrarian Tide
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Osama may be pissed as Israel but his main target is the USA. This is because during the Gulf War Osama believes US military pressence in Saudi Arabia defiled his holyland/homeland. Religion may be a cause of war, but its people that start the wars. Osama didn't mess up our economy either. The major scandals and economic slow down, before and after 9/11 is what hurt our economy.Originally posted by TricepsNGirls
dude religion is the entire reason why this war started. If the jews and muslims could jus learn to share land then Osama wouldnt have caused us trouble and messed up our economy. That and Bush, whuz tryin to take Saddam jus cuz he failed to find Osama."Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac." -Henry Kissinger
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03-29-2003, 07:19 PM #30I read more than I post.
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Re: Allah and Jesus
Yes I agree, people SHOULD research...but you did not.Originally posted by derekmac
Allah is not just another name for Christinaity's God. They are so very different. Maybe people should do some research before they open their mouth.
This is a stupid thread and should have never been started.
Allah is the ARABIC WORD FOR "GOD" Now yes, it has gained another connotation (i.e. related to Islam) but it is a word, not a designation.
A minor point perhaps, but major to others. And when you ignore others major points, sh*t hits the fan sometimes. It's like Dieu (French) or Gott (German) and could be used to describe any and every "god!"
P.S. The initial post in this thread is tripe. Christ, I'm amazed "Z.O.G.' hasn't been mentioned yet!
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Ignorant crap.
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