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    Unhappy 26 yr. old Virgin w/probs. afraid gonna be one forever and other stuff - help

    Ok, I am a social retard (I have suffered social rejection from middle school on and lost my social skills)

    Haven't had a gf since I was 17/18.

    My friends don't really deal with me except, like to say hi once in a blue moon - so no parties, ect.

    I have been reading up on different things and getting books like the art of the approach, popular prick, ect.

    I have a ton too read of those by the way.

    The hard part for me will be actually doing the advice/acts.

    I am super shy around people and have no game. (Also, if needed I can list all of my problems, some are mental disorders, ect.)

    There is also this girl I really like (Super hot, same interests, fit, nice to me, ect.) I was going to ask her out to eat or something but, I lost all my courage - I know, I know.

    Now, she doesn't even say Hi or anything to me.

    I know, I shouldn't take it personal but, I am for some reason.

    I just stated going back to the gym and she works there.

    Anyways, I don't know how to read body laungague or how to do a cold approach or anything of that sort.

    So, any help is welcomed.

    I need any help that I can get. I have no motivation because, my life sucks so much. (If needed I can explain that too)

    I also don't want to post too much or in the wrong section.

    So, sorry about the rant.

    Can anyone help me with possibly getting a girl to screw (I know, I could hook up with ones online but, i don't want to do it that way - even though it looks like I might have to) or a girl as a friend, or a gf ?

    Any serious help, I receive is greatly apreciated & thanks a million in advance.
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    Seriously man, perhaps you should consider getting professional help. I'm not trying to be too offensive here, but if you haven't got any friends (people saying 'hi' and speaking to you on occasion aren't your friends), you really can't do ANYTHING with girls and you have no experience at 26... well, I'd want to get very, very serious about it.

    To me this seems to go way beyond a bit of shyness or a personality trait. Anxiety I guess could be the cause. I've dealt with some myself...

    I'd seriously consider professional help if I were you!
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    are you weird around girls or people? I have a friend who is a social retard and i just dont bother talking to him anymore because he is so difficult and unpleasant to chill with and its not worth my time



    There will be forums for other people in your situation, try things like " incel" (involuntary celibacy) websites ** defo look there this is the only advice that is probably helpful




    i know this sounds like facetious advice but consider getting an escort or prostitute to get laid with a few times, once you know women dont hold all the cards for your pleasure you will relax around them


    good luck man!!!!! i was kinda like you at 21 till i got laid then, i wasnt that bad socially just awful with girls... Now i am reliably successful so it can be done
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    Yeah, you need to get help as soon as possible. We are giving you genuine advice here.
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    1. You don't have any problems, you're just kinda late

    2. F*ck people and their opinions about you + anything else

    3. Confidence starts with being proud of yourself. I highly doubt you're a ripped muscle maniac. Get a body to be proud of, it might even be just THAT simple. For some people i've know, it really was.

    4. I highly doubt you have a lot of money. It might sound shallow, but you'll have people being your "friend" that you didn't even know about when you've got some money. Just the way it is. Get in college if you can and focus focus focus.

    5. Now do your homework. Rome wasn't built in a day and you're not going to be some master PUA in the next month either. Do your homework before you go out there and make a fool out of yourself with some pua's routines such as the mystery method. You need to find out what works for YOU, not for them.

    It's been a long time since I heard this, so I imagine it'll be a bit different then the original but it's worth reading.

    A long time ago socrates took a student of his on a journey. He told his student about a special place they were going and how wonderful it was going to be. As they set out on the hike, the student was filled with immense wonder/uneasiness/impatience. He wanted to move faster on their hike through the mountains they were going through on their way to the destination. Through the blazing hot sun they journeyed for 5 hours. Through streams, up rocky paths, down extremely steep slopes etc...

    finally..."we have arrived", the master said. The student goes "ok what have you brought me out here to show me that is so special now?"... The master looks down and picks up a rock and says "here it is"....

    The student looks at him and get immensely angry and goes on about all the other things he could have been doing and gets furious that he has walked all the way out here just to see a stupid rock...

    The master says "well what's the problem, all this time for the last 5 hours you couldn't shut up, you couldn't wait to get here, you practically wanted to run!" The student replied, "I thought we were going to see something special out here and you have dragged me out here.. for this!?"

    Long story short, it dawns on the student finally....

    It is not the destination that brings joy and excitement, it's the journey that takes you there
    The first step in doing anything out of the norm, is getting everything and anything that says you can't do it away from you.



    "When I buy my wife, at first she cook good, her vagine worked well, she strong on plow, but three years later when she was fifteen, she receive hair on her chest, her voice become deep, "BORAT, BORAT", and her vagine hang like sleeve of wizard."
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    I think your standard are just too high
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    dude honestly the first time i got laid (21) it was awesome......BUT

    i realized though that girls are not a prize to be won. on the contrary they are human beings like you and me. it is nothing special. if you cant get with one who gives a ****. there will always be zillions more if you just keep hangin out, talkin and tryin and ****.

    but i understand your problem is more of you being more social than it is getting laid, because that is the root of your problem. i dont want to sound sort of cliche here, but talkin to a psychiatrist works wonders........worked for me anyways. you basically tell them how you are, act and think, they can figure out your problem and explain to you what you should do. and they are RIGHT. no matter what they tell you, they are correct. seriously do what they say.

    another thing i realized that makes me not give a **** about what people think anymore is the fact that i just do what i do. i talk to people and go out and **** and its good times. if for some weird reason someone doesnt like me then i really dont give a flying ****.




    take it from me man. im married now and continue to have the same great group of friends with me for over a decade now.

    it's never to late to get started with your problem.
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    Ching Chong are you asian brosive?

    I am so afraid of going up to a girl and talking to her, and I know it, I know some of them like me, but I am still a chicken ****. So got damnit, I just go home and cry. I am unashamed to admit crying... cry dood..... go home... and cry then smoke a square while listening to some music.
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    Originally Posted by darkj View Post
    Ok, I am a social retard (I have suffered social rejection from middle school on and lost my social skills)

    Haven't had a gf since I was 17/18.

    My friends don't really deal with me except, like to say hi once in a blue moon - so no parties, ect.

    I have been reading up on different things and getting books like the art of the approach, popular prick, ect.

    I have a ton too read of those by the way.

    The hard part for me will be actually doing the advice/acts.

    I am super shy around people and have no game. (Also, if needed I can list all of my problems, some are mental disorders, ect.)

    There is also this girl I really like (Super hot, same interests, fit, nice to me, ect.) I was going to ask her out to eat or something but, I lost all my courage - I know, I know.

    Now, she doesn't even say Hi or anything to me.

    I know, I shouldn't take it personal but, I am for some reason.

    I just stated going back to the gym and she works there.

    Anyways, I don't know how to read body laungague or how to do a cold approach or anything of that sort.

    So, any help is welcomed.

    I need any help that I can get. I have no motivation because, my life sucks so much. (If needed I can explain that too)

    I also don't want to post too much or in the wrong section.

    So, sorry about the rant.

    Can anyone help me with possibly getting a girl to screw (I know, I could hook up with ones online but, i don't want to do it that way - even though it looks like I might have to) or a girl as a friend, or a gf ?

    Any serious help, I receive is greatly apreciated & thanks a million in advance.

    Hey. I haven't had a gf. EVER. Or have any girl I was interested in have interest in me minus the point where I weighed 120-130 lbs and looked like one of those abercrombie ***s. Even then I was too stupid to realize my opportunities.
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    Originally Posted by TheAnimal_013 View Post
    Hey. I haven't had a gf. EVER. Or have any girl I was interested in have interest in me minus the point where I weighed 120-130 lbs and looked like one of those abercrombie ***s. Even then I was too stupid to realize my opportunities.
    you're 15. STFU.
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    Forget about worrying about getting a girl in your life and concentrate on getting yourself a life first.

    You dont need 'game' to be social and friendly. Forget all the books and go do whatever it is you enjoy doing..... Hobbies, interests, activities go do it and have fun..... if that means joining a chess club, a book club or even a martial arts class then so be it. Your issue is not about being a 'Player' its about having low self esteem. Get yourself to love yourself first then worry about getting someone else to love you after.
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    Originally Posted by darkj View Post
    Ok, I am a social retard (I have suffered social rejection from middle school on and lost my social skills)

    Haven't had a gf since I was 17/18.

    My friends don't really deal with me except, like to say hi once in a blue moon - so no parties, ect.

    I have been reading up on different things and getting books like the art of the approach, popular prick, ect.

    I have a ton too read of those by the way.

    The hard part for me will be actually doing the advice/acts.

    I am super shy around people and have no game. (Also, if needed I can list all of my problems, some are mental disorders, ect.)

    There is also this girl I really like (Super hot, same interests, fit, nice to me, ect.) I was going to ask her out to eat or something but, I lost all my courage - I know, I know.

    Now, she doesn't even say Hi or anything to me.

    I know, I shouldn't take it personal but, I am for some reason.

    I just stated going back to the gym and she works there.

    Anyways, I don't know how to read body laungague or how to do a cold approach or anything of that sort.

    So, any help is welcomed.

    I need any help that I can get. I have no motivation because, my life sucks so much. (If needed I can explain that too)

    I also don't want to post too much or in the wrong section.

    So, sorry about the rant.

    Can anyone help me with possibly getting a girl to screw (I know, I could hook up with ones online but, i don't want to do it that way - even though it looks like I might have to) or a girl as a friend, or a gf ?

    Any serious help, I receive is greatly apreciated & thanks a million in advance.
    You know you can hook up with girls online..but don't want to?
    BULLSH*T!

    You're 26, time to pull out all the f'in stops and get in the damn game before life passes you bye man. If you "KNOW" you can get laid...then do it p*ssy.

    I lost my virginity at age 25 (1.5 years ago). I'm an average looking guy (not good looking). However, it takes waaay more then just being a half decent looking guy. You have to be social, even though you've never been it before. You have to learn to like people (read "How Full Is Your Bucket", it's short and sweet) more than you do now, you have to be committed to your goal (tan, workout, whiten your teeth, read "The Game"), you have to call your friends and ask them to go out, stop being a "NO" man.

    And even if you have to take a couple anti-depressants or drink a couple beers so that you can get over your nervousness and talk to people or go out, then do it. I lost my virginity because I ramped sh*t up and did everything I could to make myself better and get laid. I was a social retard...I didn't even invite my best friends of 10 years to my college graduation because some part of me thought that I wasn't good enough for them to bother. The more you work, the more you'll get..you have to try.

    Seriously, if you need pills and/or a shrink, go get them now. Stop waiting for sh*t to happen, you have to make things happen.
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    1. take *****
    2. talk to girls
    3. ?????????
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    Originally Posted by JAWS22 View Post
    Ching Chong are you asian brosive?

    I am so afraid of going up to a girl and talking to her, and I know it, I know some of them like me, but I am still a chicken ****. So got damnit, I just go home and cry. I am unashamed to admit crying... cry dood..... go home... and cry then smoke a square while listening to some music.
    haha no i am white actually. i just literally, randomly made my sn chingchong

    lol (no racist)

    my boss is asian lol
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    Originally Posted by who_mike_jones View Post
    1. take *****
    2. talk to girls
    3. ?????????
    4. profit
    1. take *****
    2. talk like a 12 year old
    3. ????
    4. fail
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    Originally Posted by YoungGunner24s View Post
    1. take *****
    2. talk like a 12 year old
    3. ????
    4. fail
    do you even know what ***** does newb

    how does it make u talk like a 12 year old

    dont talk bout **** u dont know partna
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    Well try to do activities where its group related. Here's an idea learn to play bass guitar and join a band you will instantly have friends and access to limitless girls. Bands are always looking for a decent bass player.

    Try ***** also, it helps with anxiety. But you don't want to do that for the rest of your life, maybe try hypnotherapy? My mate who could never muster the balls to approach girls did two sessions of hypnotherapy and now every weekend the prick is approaching dozens of chics and getting roots and numbers, I'm actually thinking about doing it myself.
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    I've been in your situation, first thing you need to do is get some guy friends. Get a social group around you, so you have **** to do, get some wing men to give you advice and boost your confidence. Forget caring about what people think about you and go out looking for people that are interested in the same **** as you.
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    you're 15. STFU.
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    don't read books or watch videos on how to pick up women. they make everything seem a lot more complicated then it is, and its just going to screw with your head more.

    best thing is to hang out with someone who has other friends and just get comfortable to be around people, and girls, in general. talking to them and feeling comfortable will just come naturally after that.
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    I sent you a PM, hope you look into it. Anyways the problem is you're too worried about what people think of you. You're not shy, you're just scared that you'll say the wrong thing. Who cares? There is no "magic pick up line", and thinking about one is just ridiculous. Have you ever thought something out in your head before you try to talk to a woman and you completely fumble it? Walk up to a girl, introduce yourself, and just talk. Don't think about what you're going to say, don't think about the outcome, just do it. You have no one to blame but yourself, the way you feel, the way you act, it's all you. If you've been unaccustomed to being social with people, you'll need to become social at one point. Just be open, everyone is different. Don't read into it too much.

    Money, looks, that's all bull****. Ever wonder how some guys get girls like crazy and they don't try very hard? It's because they're authentic, they don't need to try hard because they don't overthink it. That's it, sure you have your golddigger types, but most women just want a fun guy to be around. If you're confident in yourself, don't care what other people think and can be happy within your "own" world, women will find that incredibly attractive. Experience man, that's all it takes. All the best are the best because they've worked at it all the time. You can't learn to drive if you never put the car in gear right?
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    zenmack.com register for the forums its 5$, best 5$ ive ever spent brah. you get a ****load of podcasts telling you how to be a ****ing man.

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    Originally Posted by me. View Post
    don't read books or watch videos on how to pick up women. they make everything seem a lot more complicated then it is, and its just going to screw with your head more.

    best thing is to hang out with someone who has other friends and just get comfortable to be around people, and girls, in general. talking to them and feeling comfortable will just come naturally after that.
    yeah ebooks and pua **** fuk your head up. getting laid is natural, you shouldnt have to ****ing read a book to learn how to do what people have been doing for thousands of years naturally. you need to remove all the social **** that has been put on you and be a natural man. how do you do this? torrent the ebook the power of now and the ebook a new earth both by eckhart tolle and join zenmack.
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    This thread reminded me theres a new hot chick working at the gym by my place I forgot about... Haven't talked to her yet but now I will bang her tomorrow now, that should be fun.

    Thanks mate!

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    Originally Posted by appleman44 View Post
    This thread reminded me theres a new hot chick working at the gym by my place I forgot about... Haven't talked to her yet but now I will bang her tomorrow now, that should be fun.

    Thanks mate!

    BTW just get jacked and your confidence will be sky high. Then you get any chick you want.
    Yes but having "pure" confidence unattached to superficial things is much better. Albeit it's a great start, and it may give you that boost you need to finally get your confidence up.
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