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Old 11-21-2008, 02:50 PM   #1
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Thumbs up All Those Who Follow The ACES + B-Complex Vitamin Scheme

Please post which ACES, B-Complex, Minerals, and whatever else you use in terms of vitamin and essential supplementation.

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Old 11-21-2008, 02:51 PM   #2
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A - NOW Beta Carotene

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C - NOW C-1000

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E - MRM Complete E

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S - NOW Selenium

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Vitamin A: NOW Natural Beta-Carotene (Mixed Carotenoids)
Unique E
NOW Selenium
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B Complex is at the moment just NOW B-50 with 5-10mg of Methylcobalamin a day (Jarrow).

Minerals - Zinc/Magnesium bulk. Calcium + D Alone.
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Old 11-21-2008, 03:02 PM   #4
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This thread will probably be short... unfortuntely.

Negs to the first person to say, "just use essentials/orange triad/animal pak/sport pharma...etc."
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Yea after Im done everything I got and get a job its time to step up my supplementation. Im using realllll ****ty ones now.
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Negs to the first person to say, "just use essentials/orange triad/animal pak/sport pharma...etc."
What's wrong with Orange Triad!
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Yea after Im done everything I got and get a job its time to step up my supplementation. Im using realllll ****ty ones now.
Student loans ftw!!
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Student loans ftw!!
Next year, most likely. Got offered a full ride to a local college


Anyway. Back on track. Who else uses this?!
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Old 11-21-2008, 03:26 PM   #11
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Beta-Carotene 10,000 IU + C-500mg + High Gamma E 400 IU + Selenium 100 mcg + B-100 / Coenzyme complex + CMZ + Methylcobalamin + ZMA + D-3 1,000 IU

Brands vary though. I have a bunch of Vitamin Shoppe, Source Naturals ones now.
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This thread will probably be short... unfortuntely.

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I should neg you for that Beta-carotene selection! It is poopy.
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If you check out this product, although a multi-v, it holds up to a lot of the recommendations that d makes about aces and b complex.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mhp/act.html
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I'm not using it but this is what I have in mind :

NOW Beta Carotene (Natural)
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http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mhp/act.html
I have never seen it before.Looks pretty good.Repped.
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If you check out this product, although a multi-v, it holds up to a lot of the recommendations that d makes about aces and b complex.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mhp/act.html
Looks good. Still, taking calcium at the same time as everything else is not a good idea IMO.

I also like a lot more Vit-C throughout the day.

Still one of the better multi's though.
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thanks for reps AM. Returned.

I have been taking this product for about 3 weeks...so far, so good. I have really noticed improved digestion when I take a pill after a meal.

I do not; however, take all 4 pills in a day. rather, i take 2-3 spread out...usually one with each of my biggest meals.


As for the calcium...that was one of my only gripes...but, it is a much lower dose than most MVs.
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I've been wanting to follow Dinoiii's protocol. What's the average cost spent for you guys? I currently use Ortho-Core and it's like $45 per month. I'm running low and definitely looking into this.
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Old 11-21-2008, 04:01 PM   #20
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Old 11-21-2008, 04:06 PM   #21
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Another decent Vit. E product is Unique E. It is not sold here, but I have seen it at vit. shoppe.
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Old 11-21-2008, 04:10 PM   #22
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I've been wanting to follow Dinoiii's protocol. What's the average cost spent for you guys? I currently use Ortho-Core and it's like $45 per month. I'm running low and definitely looking into this.
I figure 17 bucks for CMZ, 7 bucks for SeMC, 5 bucks for Isomer E, 5.50 for Country Life Vit A, Vit C is dirt cheap, and the B complex really depends on my diet. A 22 dollar bottle might last me a month or half. Really if I could afford it I would pop the b's like they were candy.
Bare minimum probably around 60-65 bucks. I don't know if I will be able to afford it when I am a full time student again. But to me they are the essentials put before everything else.
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Old 11-21-2008, 04:23 PM   #23
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Good find on that E complex. You getting the AOR B complex for any cheaper than 20 a pop?
Unfortunately no. Right now the lowest I've found is about 22 plus shipping from Canada.
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Unfortunately no. Right now the lowest I've found is about 22 plus shipping from Canada.
yeah thats what I pay at least our dollar sucks enough that it's about a 25% discount for you. I think the high price of AOR's products on top of already over priced Canadian retailers really hurts trying to get their products for a fair price.
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Minerals: MST ZMK or VPX CMZ
you paying 20+ for a bottle of advanced B as well?
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I've been wanting to follow Dinoiii's protocol. What's the average cost spent for you guys? I currently use Ortho-Core and it's like $45 per month. I'm running low and definitely looking into this.
I did a calculation and it's slightly under $1 CDN a day for me. Less for you Yanks.
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I did a calculation and it's slightly under $1 CDN a day for me. Less for you Yanks.
That's not too bad at all.. I've been meaning to get onto it for awhile now
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