Best available whey hydrosylate?

[nikhilnargotra]

what do you guys think is the best whey hydrosylate.

[ralph4u2c]

Originally Posted by nikhilnargotra

what do you guys think is the best whey hydrosylate.

for the price, i like All The Whey Isolate. you can find it for around ~$36 for 5lb.

[-Aaron-]

Originally Posted by ralph4u2c

for the price, i like All The Whey Isolate. you can find it for around ~$36 for 5lb.

Which isn't whey hydrosylate...

Honestly OP, the only options you have are to get a Post-Workout Blent or Supplement Directs Hydro Whey.

[quank]

what's so special about whey hydrosylate?

[-Aaron-]

Originally Posted by quank

what's so special about whey hydrosylate?

The rate of absorption of the protein... I, myself, don't feel the rate of absorption is a big concern, especially with adequate nutrient uptake pre-workout, however, a lot of people do.

[snu183]

well the best timing/benefit for a whey hydrosylate would be post workout, not pre. true protein i believe has a hydro

-d

[deserusan]

I'd say True Protein whey hydro. It's the real deal.

If you want something that doesn't taste as bad check out Protein Factory's PeptoPro sold here on bodybuilding.com. It's efficacious but a debittered casien hydrolysate.

[-Aaron-]

Originally Posted by snu183

well the best timing/benefit for a whey hydrosylate would be post workout, not pre. true protein i believe has a hydro

-d

I agree this is the case, it may not be what people call "optimal" though.

[Yates Row T]

Giant made a good WPH which i think they discountined

[ScottMcDWVU]

Originally Posted by deserusan

I'd say True Protein whey hydro. It's the real deal.

If you want something that doesn't taste as bad check out Protein Factory's PeptoPro sold here on bodybuilding.com. It's efficacious but a debittered casien hydrolysate.

For TPs did you try the high or ultra grade?

[quank]

Originally Posted by -Aaron-

The rate of absorption of the protein... I, myself, don't feel the rate of absorption is a big concern, especially with adequate nutrient uptake pre-workout, however, a lot of people do.

so how does it compare to Gemma Protein?

[deserusan]

Originally Posted by ScottMcDWVU

For TPs did you try the high or ultra grade?

Just the high and it was definitely legit.

[Adjusting]

Originally Posted by deserusan

PeptoPro

High doses of this around my workout was very effective. I loved using it personally.

[-Aaron-]

Originally Posted by quank

so how does it compare to Gemma Protein?

It doesn't.

[ScottMcDWVU]

Originally Posted by Adjusting

High doses of this around my workout was very effective. I loved using it personally.

How high is high dosage for you with PP

[Behemoth1]

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[Adjusting]

Originally Posted by ScottMcDWVU

How high is high dosage for you with PP

About 80 grams. 20 grams pre workout and 20 post and 40 grams taken throughout the day at some other time. It was extremely effective.

[ScottMcDWVU]

I hope it was effective, that's quite the expensive protocol but I'd love to be able to experiment with dosages like that.

[Adjusting]

Originally Posted by ScottMcDWVU

quite the expensive protocol but

I didn't use it like that for long. I just wanted to experiment. Give it a shot Scott.

I also lowered my daily protein and supplement intake so my wallet didn't take too much of a hit.

[Neopragmatist]

The slightly faster absorption rate over the typical whey isolate is not and should not be a concern. Your body will not catabolize or be depraved because of a late 10-minute deliverance.

Originally Posted by Neopragmatist

The speed rate of protein absorption is highly overrated in the bodybuilding world. Yes, hydrolyzed are further broken down into peptides for the purpose of that, but a few minutes won't make a difference nor is it important. Other than the fact that it costs more, hydrolyzed whey are heat-treated and pre-digested and this process can destroy/denature many of the important biological subfractions including growth factors and immunoglobulins. Are you willing to sacrifice that for the insignificant benefit of slightly faster absorption? Your call. If you want the next best thing, I would recommend CFM (Cross Flow Microfiltered) whey isolate. Check out the different processes here (which I should have included hydrolyzed, but didn't) :

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=111691241

But if you just want to give it a try, look into AST VP2 or the Supplement Direct Hydrolysate.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ast/vp2.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sd/whey.html

[__AM__]

The best Hydrolyzed protein would be PeptoPro for slightly better AA profile & debittered in comparison with HydroWhey.PF PeptoPro is premium quality.

Here's my AA profile comparison between PeptoPro & HydroWhey (TP Hydrolyzed Whey Isolate Ultra Grade in this case) :



2 factors are important in the quality of HydroWhey : 1.Source (Isolate/concentrate),2.Degree of hydrolysis/molecular weight.The highest quality HydroWhey that I know of is ~%30 in AEN Intrabolic,%20 in SD Whey Protein Hydrolysate.
Here's the molecular weight (Daltons) for TP Hydrolyzed Whey Isolate Ultra Grade :

<2,000 30-45%
2,000-5,000 10-25%
5,000-10,000 5-15%
>10,000 30-45%

Originally Posted by quank

so how does it compare to Gemma Protein?

Gemma protein is considered a fast-digesting protein close to whey.Hydrolyzed milk proteins digest even faster than ffAA...

Originally Posted by Neopragmatist

But if you just want to give it a try, look into AST VP2

That's as low quality as a HydroWhey can get!It's only %4 hydrolyzed.

[Neopragmatist]

Originally Posted by __AM__

That's as low quality as a HydroWhey can get!It's only %4 hydrolyzed.

Those bastards!

[quank]

Originally Posted by Neopragmatist

The slightly faster absorption rate over the typical whey isolate is not and should not be a concern. Your body will not catabolize or be depraved because of a late 10-minute deliverance.




But if you just want to give it a try, look into AST VP2 or the Supplement Direct Hydrolysate.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ast/vp2.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sd/whey.html

what would you mix that Supplement Direct Hydrolysate Whey with for a pleasant taste and flavor?

[Neopragmatist]

Originally Posted by quank

what would you mix that Supplement Direct Hydrolysate Whey with for a pleasant taste and flavor?

I've never tried it. But with my unflavored whey isolate, I use chocolate milk or a little bit of GreenMag, Purple Wraath, CMI 24/7 samples I get.

Wow, and the server is messed up probably cuz of that incident yesterday.

[quank]

Originally Posted by Neopragmatist

I've never tried it. But with my unflavored whey isolate, I use chocolate milk or a little bit of GreenMag, Purple Wraath, CMI 24/7 samples I get.

Wow, and the server is messed up probably cuz of that incident yesterday.

yeah i noticed that soon as i logged in. i don't know if i would give him credit for screwing things up, but come to think of it you might be right.

[sickonstorm]

now whey protein isolate





ive never used it though

[Neopragmatist]

Originally Posted by quank

yeah i noticed that soon as i logged in. i don't know if i would give him credit for screwing things up, but come to think of it you might be right.

The Miscers are going crazy over there and the news is even on CNN. I'm pretty sure the server was down due to the investigation by the feds.

[quank]

Originally Posted by Neopragmatist

The Miscers are going crazy over there and the news is even on CNN. I'm pretty sure the server was down due to the investigation by the feds.

you're right. after last night i didn't think anymore about it, but wow the news has spread worldwide.

[sickonstorm]

Originally Posted by quank

you're right. after last night i didn't think anymore about it, but wow the news has spread worldwide.

link o cnn video

BTW I OWE YOU REPS LOL

[Neopragmatist]

Originally Posted by sickonstorm

link o cnn video

BTW I OWE YOU REPS LOL

Here is the link:

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/..._justintv.html