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HoosierHardGain's Time To Get Serious Again Thread
Hi all. I've been around these forums for several years now, and have had several threads over in the over 35 section. I've been up and down with my fitness during that time, having periods of nice gains to be followed by periods of just plain letting myself go.
During the middle part of this year, I kind of bottomed out. I could not find any inspiration/motivation to keep me focused. And the reason became clear: I had no goal. Well, at that moment I set a goal of losing 1 1/4 inches off my waist, and I set a goal date and announced it. I stuck to my nutrition and worked out religiously. I surprised myself and actually reached my goal early. I ended up losing 18 lbs and 1 3/4 inches off my waist.
At one point during that program, I was sitting down and mapping everything out, from my workouts to my diet. And a crazy thought hit me: this must be kind of what it's like when you want to compete...maybe I should do that. Folks, my head shot up in amazement. I had NEVER considered the possibility of getting up on the stage...none! But there I was actually thinking about it.
I did some looking around to shows that take place here in the Indianapolis area, and I found one that looked good. The Mr. Natural Indiana, which is held in September. I emailed the promoter and told him my story, and he was more than gracious, and encouraged me to do it.
I bounced it off of some of my good friends around here. I had several people who had gotten a lot of help from Derek at Scivation, including Dawn, Catherine and Penney. Or to those who prefer screen names, vbsunbum1, IronIc, and ClayCat. They encouraged me email him and starting a program. I did, and filled out the form and sent it back in, complete with pictures.
This past Friday, I got my program in my inbox from Derek. I was very excited. I've spent this weekend reading and re-reading the protocols he laid out for both the workouts and the nutrition. And I have to give him major props, I'm not an easy person to lay out a program for right now. In July, I woke up one morning and could barely lift my left shoulder. After trying to get it to heal on its own for a couple of months, I broke down and went to an Ortho, who concluded that there was no tear, but that I needed physical therapy. Long story short, I can't really do any shoulder or chest exercises right now. Derek still was able to outline an amazing program that I am really excited to start.
This is going to be fun, and a heck of a lot of work. I'm up to the challenge, and I feel blessed to have Derek's knowledge on my side. I have so many friends on here who have given me so much support, and I can't thank them enough.
So, this is the beginning. This journey will take me to next September, and I cannot wait to see what I can accomplish.
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11-16-2008, 03:38 PM
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Way to start a journal. Nicely put my friend. Welcome aboard!! I am so happy for you.
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11-16-2008, 04:18 PM
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4/10/10 destiny fulfilled
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11-16-2008, 04:20 PM
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Woo Hoo! September FTMFW!! Go HOOSE!! 
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11-16-2008, 04:52 PM
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Mr. Natural Indiana....that has a nice ring to it. You give plenty of support and you will receive it as well. I hope all goes well with the shoulder. Ill be following along.
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11-16-2008, 07:01 PM
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Back in the saddle again!
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N B4 the lock!
lol j/k  
I know you'll do great on this program, Hoos. You have proven time and time again that you have the stuff to be successful. Your support to others (including me) has been priceless ... you know we're all here to support you as well.
Welcome to the Team!
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11-16-2008, 07:43 PM
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Way to start a journal. Nicely put my friend. Welcome aboard!! I am so happy for you.
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Thanks, Ellen...I happy too....now my body just has to follow suit!
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A Tiffy subscribtion! Thanks, Tiffany...you're the best!
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HEHHEHE, Thanks, Mo...in some ways, September seems a long way off. On the other hand, it's like, "Oh S***! It's so close!!!!"
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Mr. Natural Indiana....that has a nice ring to it. You give plenty of support and you will receive it as well. I hope all goes well with the shoulder. Ill be following along.
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Hey, fellow Hoosier! I love the energy over here and plan on dishing out a lot of support to the other posters. The shoulder is getting better slowly. My main concern is to not make it worse!
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Originally Posted by IronIc
N B4 the lock!
lol j/k
I know you'll do great on this program, Hoos. You have proven time and time again that you have the stuff to be successful. Your support to others (including me) has been priceless ... you know we're all here to support you as well.
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Thanks, Penney...you've been a pillar of support to me on top of being a great friend. Thanks for the welcome, it feels good to be over here.
Now if I can just manage to keep this thread unlocked...
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11-16-2008, 07:54 PM
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The diet plan to start with will be the CHA 1800 plan. Yeah, I know the cals sound really low for a man my size. But my metabolism is really bad...1800 is usually what I maintain at, so I am sure that is why Derek picked the 1800 plan to start. The diet I had used on this last program went as low as 1200, which allowed me to make a lot of progress. I truly believe the nutrition is the #1 priority on a program. Basically, especially at my age, I don't believe you can out train your diet.
Training wise, I'll be on a 4 day lifting split. Two upper and two lower body days each. I'm chomping at the bit to do chest and shoulders, but I just can't right now. Military press has always been my favorite movement, so I can't wait to get back to it.
Cardio will be 30 minutes after each lifting session, and a HIIT session on two of the off days. Historically, I am a cardio phobe. But I've come to accept it as necessary to get to where I want to be.
Supps for now will be SciVation whey, Xtend and a daily multi. I need to hold the line financially for now on supps, so I am sticking to these for now.
Well, thanks to all for stopping in tonight. Tomorrow starts a new chapter in my life, and I can't wait.
Good night everyone!
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11-17-2008, 04:57 AM
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Not the momma
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I am soooo in for this!!!!!!
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11-17-2008, 05:20 AM
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I am soooo in for this!!!!!!
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Ha...thanks, bud...glad to have you on board!
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11-17-2008, 05:27 AM
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Monday Morning Workout
This morning was my first day on Derek's plan, so I was excited to get into the gym. I was late getting out of the house because I couldn't find where I put my journal! But I found it, and out the door I went. Because of the shoulder and that several of the movements were ones I hadn't done in a while, I stayed in the lighter end of the rep range, figuring I could mess with the weight more next week.
The routine:
Bent over rows: 3 x 10 - been a while since I did these, so I wanted to stay somewhat lite, so I could get the form back down.
BB Shrug: 3 x 10 - again, since it hits the shoulders, I wanted to go lite.
BB Curl: 3 x 8 - my physical therapist warned me about going too heavy on these, since the bicep attaches to the muscle that's been bothering me.
Chin Grip Pulldown: 3 x 8
DB Shrug: 3 x 11 - way to lite...will up the weight next time
Alt DB Curl: 3 x 10
Cable Row: 3 x 10 - these felt nice...will go heavier next time
And cardio was enjoyed to the tune of 30 mintues low intensity inclines on Mr. Treadmill.
All in all, it felt great. Now on the hardest part, getting the diet down and getting all 6 meals in.
Hope y'all have a great Monday!
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11-17-2008, 05:30 AM
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Not the momma
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Ha...thanks, bud...glad to have you on board!
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it is my pleasure to be a part of this journey.
To be able to partake in this adventure will be nothing
short of inspirational and, I am sure a motivation for myself.
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11-17-2008, 05:41 AM
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Sweet, in on 1st page.
Excellent work Hoosier, and yes, Mr. Natural Indiana has a nice ring to it. Go for it bud!
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11-17-2008, 06:23 AM
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it is my pleasure to be a part of this journey.
To be able to partake in this adventure will be nothing
short of inspirational and, I am sure a motivation for myself.
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Thanks, bud...it should be fun. If I can inspire anyone, then that will make it that much sweeter.
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Sweet, in on 1st page.
Excellent work Hoosier, and yes, Mr. Natural Indiana has a nice ring to it. Go for it bud! |
Thanks, B. You've been a big help to me all along...you've been there to kick me in the arse when I need it...keep doing that!
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11-17-2008, 06:47 AM
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Congrats on rockin' out a great 1st workout!
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11-17-2008, 06:56 AM
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4/10/10 destiny fulfilled
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Excellent workout Hoos!
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11-17-2008, 06:59 AM
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Welcome to SciVation land! Hoos, I have no doubt you will do wonders on this plan and rock the stage in September! You know that goals are important to have and they keep you accountable and on track and you just proved all of this to yourself over the last several weeks. SO proud of you and happy for you!
Plan looks fantastic! HAHA... you have to do your HIIT now! Glad I kicked ya in the rear to do it over the last couple of months and now it won't be so difficult for ya. I'll be back to getting some HIIT on soon and we can have HIIT wars again!
Seriously, you know I'm sub'd ... and you'll certainly get a lot of support in the SciVation forum!
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11-17-2008, 07:05 AM
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It about time, WTG Hoose!!
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11-17-2008, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy29LI
Congrats on rockin' out a great 1st workout!
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Thanks, Jimmy...I was amazed how blasted I was afterwards...I hadn't been doing higher reps, so this felt great.
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Excellent workout Hoos!
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Thanks, Tiffy...and anyone who wants to view an intense workout needs to checkout Tifflex's journal...the girl knows how to work hard in the gym!
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Welcome to SciVation land! Hoos, I have no doubt you will do wonders on this plan and rock the stage in September! You know that goals are important to have and they keep you accountable and on track and you just proved all of this to yourself over the last several weeks. SO proud of you and happy for you!
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Thanks, Dawn...you've been a huge part of keeping me motivated and inspired. What you just accomplished has moved me to work harder in the gym than I ever thought I would.
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Plan looks fantastic! HAHA... you have to do your HIIT now! Glad I kicked ya in the rear to do it over the last couple of months and now it won't be so difficult for ya. I'll be back to getting some HIIT on soon and we can have HIIT wars again!
Seriously, you know I'm sub'd ... and you'll certainly get a lot of support in the SciVation forum! |
hehehhe...yeah, so many times when I am pumping out the HIIT, I can't help but think, "Oh, sure...SHE thinks this is good!" But yeah, I never would have started HIIT without your encouragement and how you challenged me to do it.
You're the best Dawn!
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11-17-2008, 07:33 AM
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Good luck to you with your new program Hoosier!! I'm sure you'll do great!!
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11-17-2008, 09:05 AM
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Good luck with your new program......you so pumped up about it that I'm sure you will do great.
PS I'm getting damn tired of posting right after you on everybody's journals.....LMAO........I'm gonna have to learn to type faster!
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11-17-2008, 10:59 AM
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Good luck to you with your new program Hoosier!! I'm sure you'll do great!! |
Hey Hibby...thanks, I appreciate it!
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Good luck with your new program......you so pumped up about it that I'm sure you will do great.
PS I'm getting damn tired of posting right after you on everybody's journals.....LMAO........I'm gonna have to learn to type faster!
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Well, if you'd stop following me around, you wouldn't have to worry! heheh...Thanks, Mike!
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11-17-2008, 12:31 PM
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11-17-2008, 04:33 PM
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welcome aboard!
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Thanks! Glad to be here...
Diet has been fairly smooth today...though I can tell I am going to have to build up a high tolerance of chicken.
I've gotten the first 5 meals in with no problems...I'll probably have a whey shake later with some almonds.
Hey, one day down...a chit load more to go!
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11-17-2008, 07:40 PM
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Back in the saddle again!
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I wouldn't worry about the chicken until you start seeing feathers growing under your armpits
Have a good night, Hoos!
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Not the momma
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in before Hoos
Moring buddy!!!!!!!
How you sleep?
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I wouldn't worry about the chicken until you start seeing feathers growing under your armpits
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I haven't started sprouting feathers yet, but I have noticed "cluck" has become a big part of my vocabulary.
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in before Hoos
Moring buddy!!!!!!!
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Hey LBM...slept ok, except I fell asleep in the lazyboy chair until about 12:30...I was rocking my 3 year old and we both fell asleep.
Morning, all. Had Derek workout #2 this morning, followed by physical therapy. Workout writeup coming in a few...
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11-18-2008, 07:47 AM
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Tuesday Workout...Derek workout #2
Chilly, chilly as I left the house to go workout. What was worse was that when the alarm went off at 4:45, I wanted to throw it against the wall! But, I pulled myself out of bed at the sound of the alarm and headed off to the gym. The workout went well, though my shoulder was bugging me just a bit this morning. I think my lil girl pulled on it a lot yesterday, which probably aggravated it a bit. I did lower body movements today, but what was funny was the one movement that bothered my shoulder wasn't squats, but standing calf raises. Yep, the body is a funny thing.
Squats: 3 x 8 - basically just added one rep to what I had been doing, with just a little extra weight.
Standing Calf Raise: 3 x 10 - I kept trying to find a weight where I could do lower reps, but kept being able to pop out 10 reps...live and learn. Add more weight next week.
DB Lunges: 3 x 7 - if you ever want to see something funny, watch me doing lunges. I've mentioned it several times over the years on here, and I will say it again: I HATE LUNGES!!! But, a necessary evil.
RDL: 3 x 8 - added a bit of weight to what I had been doing
Hanging Crunch: 3 x 11 - my ab muscles need a lot of work. I've neglected them for too long.
Seated Calf: 2 x 6, 1 x 7
Rope Crunches: 3 x 11
All this followed up with 30 minutes of low intensity incline work on the treadmill. I had to really watch my time, because I had to get back home and shower before my PT session.
So that concludes my second Derek workout. Let it be written, let it be said.
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Back in the saddle again!
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Covington, Kentucky, United States
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Good morning Hoos! Yes, it was ccccoooooollllllddddd  I'm not ready for this! lol
Great workout! I was thinking, you know, it would be awesome to workout in the morning like that, but I have so much to do in the morning that it really is impossible 
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11-18-2008, 08:04 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Howell, Michigan, United States
Age: 50
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Well,well Monsieur Hoo! Another productive morning for ya. Thats a pretty cool training session that Derek has you doing. So different from mine. One day down to Mr. Indiana!! I'll have to check out where your show is located. If it's not too far of a drive from South MI I just may show up and shout out your number. Hee Heee!!!
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