OK im new to this site and i need some help Im tryna build some muscle but it seems like i can't do it i use to lift weights and go to the gym every other day and i didn't get any muscle when i was done lifting i could see my muscles were swole but like an hour later they would just get soft and stay that way......
I wanna know anything i could do to get muscle and keep it im a teen im 17 but i want advice from more experienced people..... I don't take any supplements are anything if i should any suggestions
and i weigh 155.
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11-16-2008, 10:59 AM #1
I need some help im tryna build muscle
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11-16-2008, 12:39 PM #2
Compound Movements and Added Protein
1) Compound movements (not machines) are far better for adding muscle.
Squat (try to avoid going heavier than 225, because you will still grow another inch, or three and don't wanna jack up your spine and stunt your height). Squats release the most growth hormone and will make you grow. Do them free, don't punk out and use a smith.
2) Olympic straight bar curls. Use a wide grip. If you can only do the bar, then do that, but pick a weight you can do no more than 8 times for your 1st set. Use good form and touch the bar to your nose. 3-4 sets, do them correctly and they are a bitc*.
3) Barbell bench as heavy as possible. Emphasize flat and incline.
Reduce time spent on cardio, but increase intensity. Ex: 25 rep squats, or run 100 yard sprints, or run stairs, rather than 20+minutes on a bike, or treadmill.
I'd be happy to help with anything else.
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11-16-2008, 12:50 PM #3
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It's what you eat most likely or maybe your expectations are too high.. it takes time..
What you feel after working out is the blood pumped into the veins that gives you that pumped feeling that's not muscle growth .. yet.. it's probably growing but you can't see it yet
have patience and eat a lot , stay away from junk food and eat good Jamaican food.. Jamaicans eat pretty well if anything too much fried food,curry goat (very very fatty)
and sugar...
But you have access to a lot of good fresh fish,chicken, fruits and veggies
and I recommend doing Starting Strength for a while, it will build muscle and strength
http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wi..._Strength_WikiLast edited by BrotherWolf; 11-16-2008 at 12:58 PM.
who says love has to be soft and gentle ?
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11-16-2008, 01:05 PM #4
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At 17, you're prob not going to have alot of patience, but that's the key. Lifting and building muscle is a LONG term thing. We were all 17 once. Well except maybe Old-time... ;-)
Don't expect your muscles to grow after every session. It takes A LONG TIME. Some people will work out and only gain a pound or two of lean MUSCLE mass over a YEAR's time.
Don't let it discourage you though. It's definitely worth the effort later in life. And as a 17 year old, your body may adapt faster than those of us who are more "senior" than you.
Don't forget diet and rest. The biggest gains are seen OUTSIDE the gym. It's about how you feed those muscle fibers trying to grow and how to let them rest to rebuild that's the key. In the gym you will never actually build the muscle fibers there. You are only breaking them down. The goal is to rebuild the micro-tears with new muscle tissue. That's done outside the gym.
Above all, HAVE PATIENCE!!!!
Good luck and keep us posted.
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11-16-2008, 03:25 PM #5
I too was seventeen once..........
I too was seventeen once............
I started lifting in high school, back then we had no one to tell us what to do or proper form. All we had was some old cement weights and a weight machine.
There were only two of us in the whole school who really were into lifting, the rest of the guys would lift during the sports season and then drop out as soon as the season was over.
Patience is certainly the word of the day. At 17 one has no patience and the race looks like a sprint....... it's not!!
Read my signature, and heed the warning........ you've gotten good advice already, and I've nothing else to add.
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11-16-2008, 10:27 PM #6
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11-17-2008, 12:20 PM #9
Eat lots of protien, lift heavy...rest...repeat!
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11-17-2008, 01:51 PM #10
dude, we were all 17 once. Some of us were able to build muscle. I unfortunately was not one of them. A rail back in high school.
There is no easy way out, eat, eat,eat,eat,****,sleep,eat,eat,eat,...repeat.
At 17 it's heard to for see the future, we all want "everything now".
What's your diet like? Depending on your height, 155lbs may make you slim or stocky with the inability to grow past that, just get stronger.
Simple diet that I am doing. If your diet is not similar, that may be your problem. I still have to increase my calories myself, but I am seeing the
results so far. +12 lbs heavier in 4 months.
0530/Breakfast: (as a ritual!)
1 cup of oatmeal
1cup frozen fruit that melts in the hot o2tmeal
1 cup orange juice
3 scrambled eggs in microwave
1cup coffee
*wait 1 hr for food to digest*
0630/Hit the gym for 1.5 hr work out
0830/Get home and get ready for work
1 cup water
2 scoops EAS protein powder
3/4 cup frozen fruit
1 cup vanilla yogurt
1130/Lunch-whatever seems to have the most calories in the cafeteria
which includes cookies or fruit for dessert
1430/Mid day snack of some kind.
1630/Dinner-whatever seems to have the most calories in the cafeteria
which includes cookies or fruit for dessert
2300/Dinner again-what my girlfriend makes for dinner, since I am
just getting home now.
2330/Sleep.
Basically 4 decent meals a day. I work in a hospital so all their meals are balanced.
I'm not nutrionist, but this is the best I can do for now.
Something to think about.
Also, like everyone else is saying, get a better work out program, that does not include only the upper body.
Seriously, women love nice legs as much as we love their legs, .......DO NOT BE A LIGHT BULB. Big up top
and anorexic on the bottom.
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11-17-2008, 02:26 PM #11
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11-18-2008, 10:04 AM #17
Man, you're killin' me.
Ok, the first step to working out is:
1. Setting a goal. "I want to be 10 heavier in the next 90-120 days" as an example. Make the goal REALISTIC.
2.You have to be into to benefit from it. "Getting big", what does that exactly mean? It's too generic a statement to make. Clarify what you want.
Post up a pic for us to see and critique what you need to work on. Right guys?
3. Eating and sleeping takes precedent over everythingelse, to some extent. Be strict with your diet and sleep. Arrange your schedule for a good meal, than work out, than whatever you want to do that day. But get at least 6 hrs of sleep.
4.DO NOT LOOK AT YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR ON A CONTINUAL BASIS. Wondering if you see muscle, and than get discoruaged. Wear t-shirts or sweat shirts to the gym. You'll stay warmer and lift better. Trust me. Your muscles and joints will thank you.
5. Forget that "Is there a supplement out there that I can take?"...Looks like someone wants a quick fix. Protein supplements are made to enhance a diet not be a meal replacement.
6. DO NOT OVER TRAIN. Stick with basic movements.
Example: for chest all I am doing now is barbell flat bench, followed by dumbell incline....4 sets, 8 sets total..that's it. NO MORE NO LESS.
I found this out by trial and error. I used to do 12 sets to include dumbbell flyes and found my muscles would get sore but I would not increase my bench. And my chest looked like crap.
Here is a pic from my post. Before, and During. I'm doing the same work out I did to get back to what I used to look like. Again, by trial and error.
August 2008
Oct 2008
SET GOALS.
I'm not trying to cut you down, just helping you out since we all asked the same questions when we were your age.
Good luck.
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11-18-2008, 02:11 PM #18
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this is all you need to know about gaining muscle mass, some people might disagree here and there but basically that is all you need to do
http://stronglifts.com/how-to-gain-w...r-skinny-guys/who says love has to be soft and gentle ?
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11-18-2008, 04:41 PM #19
Workout every other day? That I don't get.
Also I need a lot more than the calorie recommendations they have. I'm in the neighbourhood of 3500-4000 calories and can't seem to gain. I'm going to try to figure a meal plan to bumps me up to about 4500 this weekend and see how that goes.
Physical work and very active... And the metabolism of a Ferrari.Last edited by Do_Somethin; 11-18-2008 at 04:42 PM. Reason: This was the right thread.
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11-18-2008, 08:24 PM #20
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That's a very generic article of course you need to customize your diet and workouts but simply said if you're skinny guy eat plenty of meat and veggies
drink a gallon of whole milk a day and you'll gain weight without any supplements, and if you workout accordingly you will gain muscle as well as some fatwho says love has to be soft and gentle ?
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