Low GI > Complex Carbs

[PowerThirst]

Just figured I would post this to help anyone confused cause some people still think that recognizing if the carbs are Complex or Simple tell them the absorption rate, when actually it doesn't tell them anything. The best way to find the slow absorbing and fast absorbing carbs is to use the GI index. You can get GI ratings at www.glycemicindex.com.

[thebasil]

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[PowerThirst]

in before the fail






o wait

I am just stating the truth and trying to help others who don't understand....

[deejaykaydee]

You're doing it wrong

[PowerThirst]

You're doing it wrong

If you could, please explain.

[deejaykaydee]

If you could, please explain.

Only if you explain why people should consume low GI foods.

[PowerThirst]

Only if you explain why people should consume low GI foods.

Carbs contain many different molecular structures when eaten but the body can only use one, which is the monosaccharide glucose. So carbs when eaten must be converted to glucose to be absorbed by the gut. The misconception of complex and simple comes in when you look at the chains of carbohydrates. Glucose is a single monosaccharide but there are three different types of monosaccharides that the human body can recognize when we consume carbs, those three being glucose, glactose, and fructose but it only absorbs glucose. Now to keep this simple since I'm assuming you haven't had any biochemistry or organic chemistry, a complex carb (polysaccharide) is just a long chain of monosacharrides, though it doesn't matter what those monosacharides are. So if you have a long chain of glucose your body just has to start cleaving those bonds giving you many glucose molecules therefore causing a rapid absorption. But if you look at a fructose or a glactose its a whole new ball game. Even though these are the simplest forms of carbs like pure glucose, being a monosaccharide, the body has to CHANGE THE MOLECULAR STRUCTURE. This means it has to create glucose from what its been given, instead of just snipping a bond and getting lots of glucose.
Now don't get me wrong cause not all complex carbs are bad since not all of them are long chains of pure glucose, but if you look at maltodextrin (which is considered complex) it is a chain of glucoses. This carb spikes your insulin like crazy which is what you trying to avoid unless its in you post workout meal.
If their is anything unclear or if there is anything else anyone wants to talk about I'm game. I just typed this up kind of quick and I know I left some stuff out.


Its your turn now dude, so lets hear your side....

[danoobsminion]

lol in for this thread

[Dr. Horse]

Now to keep this simple since I'm assuming you haven't had any biochemistry or organic chemistry...

LOL, I'm assuming you haven't either...

[hooked4life]

I'm just wondering what carbs you know of that are simple but low GI.

[PowerThirst]

LOL, I'm assuming you haven't either...

ya ur right dude... Pharmacy School.. Like that means anything....

[PowerThirst]

I'm just wondering what carbs you know of that are simple but low GI.

Do you mean carbs or the foods their present in? The carbs that gets all the bad rep are fructose.. Its as simple as a carbohydrate gets but is absorbed slow. Another one is lactose sugars in milk ( galactose + fructose) which are absorbed really slow also. There are also other ones, but I'm just trying to get the point across that not all simple sugars are fast and not all complex sugars are slow.

[Dr. Horse]

ya ur right dude... Pharmacy School.. Like that means anything....

If you're in Pharmacy school, you should study harder. Or ask for your money back...

[PowerThirst]

If you're in Pharmacy school, you should study harder. Or ask for your money back...

Wow.. Just stop posting unless your going to actually tell me why I'm wrong

I can't understand why its so hard to believe this stuff. The GI was only made for diabetics... and since its kkiiinnddoofff important for them to have slow absorbing carbs when they eat them, you know since they don't want to die, i figured it would be a little more accurate than some random guys on a bodybuilding forum telling you what carbs are better.

[Lex350]

Carbs contain many different molecular structures when eaten but the body can only use one, which is the monosaccharide glucose. So carbs when eaten must be converted to glucose to be absorbed by the gut. The misconception of complex and simple comes in when you look at the chains of carbohydrates. Glucose is a single monosaccharide but there are three different types of monosaccharides that the human body can recognize when we consume carbs, those three being glucose, glactose, and fructose but it only absorbs glucose. Now to keep this simple since I'm assuming you haven't had any biochemistry or organic chemistry, a complex carb (polysaccharide) is just a long chain of monosacharrides, though it doesn't matter what those monosacharides are. So if you have a long chain of glucose your body just has to start cleaving those bonds giving you many glucose molecules therefore causing a rapid absorption. But if you look at a fructose or a glactose its a whole new ball game. Even though these are the simplest forms of carbs like pure glucose, being a monosaccharide, the body has to CHANGE THE MOLECULAR STRUCTURE. This means it has to create glucose from what its been given, instead of just snipping a bond and getting lots of glucose.
Now don't get me wrong cause not all complex carbs are bad since not all of them are long chains of pure glucose, but if you look at maltodextrin (which is considered complex) it is a chain of glucoses. This carb spikes your insulin like crazy which is what you trying to avoid unless its in you post workout meal.
If their is anything unclear or if there is anything else anyone wants to talk about I'm game. I just typed this up kind of quick and I know I left some stuff out.


Its your turn now dude, so lets hear your side....

Wow thanks for the deep science. Fantastic grade 11-12 biology lesson on macromolecules. You learn some deep **** in pharm school.

There aren't a lot of foods which are complex carbs like maltodextrin. I don't think anyone on this board would think eating a pile of maltodextrin is the same as eating some steel cut oats.

Fructose is so easily converted to glucose. Where do you get your info from? You're pharmacy books?

And what the f*ck is glactose? Do you mean CH2OH? Because that's spelt galactose.

[Bioteknik]

LOL, I'm assuming you haven't either...

dammit.. beat me to it..

[Bioteknik]

Wow.. Just stop posting unless your going to actually tell me why I'm wrong

I can't understand why its so hard to believe this stuff. The GI was only made for diabetics... and since its kkiiinnddoofff important for them to have slow absorbing carbs when they eat them, you know since they don't want to die, i figured it would be a little more accurate than some random guys on a bodybuilding forum telling you what carbs are better.

so some random guy comes on bodybuilding.com and starts regurgitating textbook lessons that hardly apply to real life?

GI matters if you are eating just that source on an empty stomach..

BTW, peanut M&M's have a low GI.. so I guess that means they're a good source of carbs then? Ice cream is low GI too..

Eating a full meal(like most people do) with protein, fat, and fiber makes GI differences negligible.

[Holyspokes]

The only thing that can really be considered when talking about the GI of carb sources is that low GI TENDS to have more nutrients, but that's not true in all cases(white potatoes for example). Plus in a mixed meal it makes no difference like others have said.

I hope I can get a good insulin spike after my workout with my pizza cause of the white dough....

[liftjunkie06]

Just figured I would post this to help anyone confused cause some people still think that recognizing if the carbs are Complex or Simple tell them the absorption rate, when actually it doesn't tell them anything. The best way to find the slow absorbing and fast absorbing carbs is to use the GI index. You can get GI ratings at www.glycemicindex.com.

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