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Well, Im on kind of a running kick. I used to just lift and do some inclined walking or light jog every now and then. Over the last couple months I started running. Now Im doing 3 to 5 miles EVERY day (mon-fri). Problem is, that I have to eat so much more just to keep my weight maintained, lol. Not that I mind it that much, but this made me realize ONE THING.

Running is so far superior to "walking", eliptical, bike etc. Running is awesome...bottomline. I recommend anyone trying to lose weight to run for cardio instead of doing any of the other EASIER types. Yes, running is hard and you have to start slow and work hard to really get going, but its worth it.
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Old 11-11-2008, 08:47 AM   #2
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Well, Im on kind of a running kick. I used to just lift and do some inclined walking or light jog every now and then. Over the last couple months I started running. Now Im doing 3 to 5 miles EVERY day (mon-fri). Problem is, that I have to eat so much more just to keep my weight maintained, lol. Not that I mind it that much, but this made me realize ONE THING.

Running is so far superior to "walking", eliptical, bike etc. Running is awesome...bottomline. I recommend anyone trying to lose weight to run for cardio instead of doing any of the other EASIER types. Yes, running is hard and you have to start slow and work hard to really get going, but its worth it.
QFT! However, I really have to watch that I up my protein intake to keep from losing muscle mass and not just BF...

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Old 11-11-2008, 10:50 AM   #3
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i like runner05's pic. lol. wtf?
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I would kill to run again. I used to run like that and the bike, elliptical, and rowing machine just suck.

If I could run, I would.
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lol I think you might be on to something there...

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Well, Im on kind of a running kick. I used to just lift and do some inclined walking or light jog every now and then. Over the last couple months I started running. Now Im doing 3 to 5 miles EVERY day (mon-fri). Problem is, that I have to eat so much more just to keep my weight maintained, lol. Not that I mind it that much, but this made me realize ONE THING.

Running is so far superior to "walking", eliptical, bike etc. Running is awesome...bottomline. I recommend anyone trying to lose weight to run for cardio instead of doing any of the other EASIER types. Yes, running is hard and you have to start slow and work hard to really get going, but its worth it.
When do you run and when do you lift? I like incline walking for cardio mainly because the only time I have for cardio is after lifting and on back or leg day, its hard to run for a long distance after feeling so fatigued, and walking I start getting my strength back, but at the same time my heart rate is about 160-170 ish.
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how much protein are you taking pre and/or post running ?
Im combining some free weights before my runs now and im trying to figure out how much to take..
and yes, i love running too.. it really has helped with the fat loss, make sure you get good shoes and i prefer outdoors since im not just staring at a wall in front of me at the gym
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When do you run and when do you lift? I like incline walking for cardio mainly because the only time I have for cardio is after lifting and on back or leg day, its hard to run for a long distance after feeling so fatigued, and walking I start getting my strength back, but at the same time my heart rate is about 160-170 ish.
I try to run at night, but sometimes its right after lifting. I do about 40 minutes of weights, then hit the treadmill for about 30+ minutes.

I set the treadmill at 1.0 incline so it mimics the resistance you would get outside (wind, friction etc) and run between 6.5-8.5 mph.
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Well, Im on kind of a running kick. I used to just lift and do some inclined walking or light jog every now and then. Over the last couple months I started running. Now Im doing 3 to 5 miles EVERY day (mon-fri). Problem is, that I have to eat so much more just to keep my weight maintained, lol. Not that I mind it that much, but this made me realize ONE THING.

Running is so far superior to "walking", eliptical, bike etc. Running is awesome...bottomline. I recommend anyone trying to lose weight to run for cardio instead of doing any of the other EASIER types. Yes, running is hard and you have to start slow and work hard to really get going, but its worth it.
walking 1 mile is close to running 1 mile as far as weight loss matters
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Old 11-14-2008, 02:34 PM   #10
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walking 1 mile is close to running 1 mile as far as weight loss matters
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calories = energy. It takes the same energy to go from point A to point B.

But I do love running. You can burn more calories and improve your cardiovascular in a shorter time then walking.

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Old 11-15-2008, 02:10 AM   #11
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Ditto...I Run About 25 Miles A Week, Mainly On Treadmill

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I disagree. It takes more energy to run and your body heats up when you run so you sweat more.
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Well, Im on kind of a running kick. I used to just lift and do some inclined walking or light jog every now and then. Over the last couple months I started running. Now Im doing 3 to 5 miles EVERY day (mon-fri). Problem is, that I have to eat so much more just to keep my weight maintained, lol. Not that I mind it that much, but this made me realize ONE THING.

Running is so far superior to "walking", eliptical, bike etc. Running is awesome...bottomline. I recommend anyone trying to lose weight to run for cardio instead of doing any of the other EASIER types. Yes, running is hard and you have to start slow and work hard to really get going, but its worth it.
What did you do to build up your endurance?
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Dont waste time on treadmills, yes they are good and better than bikes, elipticals, rowers.... but nothing beats running outside...run around your local neirbouhoods and blocks (its not hard)...theres lots of little hills and slopes etc...its far more natural and better for you... PLUS running outside your forced to run home, wheras on treadmills you can just quit when your being a pussy.

Rowers, bikes, elipticals etc... is for girls
Treadmills are for boys
And real running/sprinting is for men...
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I disagree. It takes more energy to run and your body heats up when you run so you sweat more.
LOL i don't care if you agree or disagree its not an opinion its a fact. and sweat has nothing to do with weight loss.
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I don't understand how walking uses the same amount of energy as running. I can run 4km in 1/4th the time it takes to walk it. And I'm tired and out of breath at the end of it.

Shouldn't it be the same thing as a car? The faster you go, the more energy you burn, the slower you go, the more you conserve your energy and fuel?

Doesn't it make sense that since you're putting more effort in, and working harder that you'd burn more calories?

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I've been on the same kick lately, running every night. I even went and ran two miles in the rain last night. It's crazy because my general stance on running is that I thoroughly hate it.
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I don't understand how walking uses the same amount of energy as running. I can run 4km in 1/4th the time it takes to walk it. And I'm tired and out of breath at the end of it.

Shouldn't it be the same thing as a car? The faster you go, the more energy you burn, the slower you go, the more you conserve your energy and fuel?

Doesn't it make sense that since you're putting more effort in, and working harder that you'd burn more calories?

/is confused.
You can't compare it to a car because of momentum. When you take your foot off the gas the car still goes because it is still producing energy from the combustion in the engine. Eventually it will die down because of the lack of air/fuel it is receiving but it still benefits from foward momentum. When you're running you're creating your own energy to propel yourself forward(assuming you're not running backwards) When you decide to stop supplying your body with the energy it needs to move, it just stops. When you stop running, you stop running. You don't putter along for a few mintures, correct?

The energy used when walking or running is not exactly the same but very similar. This of course assumes we are talking about distance not time. Let's say it takes you 20 minutes to walk a mile and 7 minutes to run it. Let's say you need 1000 units of energy to make your body travel 1 mile. Every step your body exerts 1 unit of energy. So in 1000 steps your body has exerted 1000 units of energy and traveled a distance of 1 mile(it took 20 min). Now let's say that you are running. Your body still needs 1000 units of energy to travel 1 mile that hasn't changed because the distance hasn't changed. However your body now uses 3 units of energy per stride but each stride covers 3x as much distance as a walking step. It uses more energy per unit of movement but the distance traveled differs per step and stride. Since you are covering more distance running you will reach the 1 mile mark sooner (7min) but the same amount of energy is exerted.

What I think confuses people is they are thinking more along the lines of time, not distance. If you were to walk for 20 minutes you would not burn as many calories as you would if you ran for 20 minutes. Simply because you are exerting a larger amount of energy over the same amount of time.

I realize the figures are not accurate but I was just using them as an example to try and better illustrate the correlation between calories burned running vs walking.
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I had to read that a few times, but I think it makes sense, haha.

I think I've been doing that...the whole time VS distance thing. Cause that definetly does make sense.

Hmm...nice range of words there.

Anywho, I get what you're saying. Thanks for clearing that up.
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I had to read that a few times, but I think it makes sense, haha.

I think I've been doing that...the whole time VS distance thing. Cause that definetly does make sense.

Hmm...nice range of words there.

Anywho, I get what you're saying. Thanks for clearing that up.
Haha you know after I reread it myself I said, "what the f*ck did I just say?" Sorry that was all I had time to write so it was the simplest way I could explain it in the time I had. Imagine if I had the time to use real calculations...yikes, I may have given myself a headache. Anyway, I hope it helped a little.
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i thought running was bad for your joints thats why i use the elliptical....hmmm
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i thought running was bad for your joints thats why i use the elliptical....hmmm
Too much running and bad technique and footwear is bad for the joints. You need comfortable sneakers that help cushion the impact. You also don't want to stomp your feet on the ground. Try and keep a verticle to slightly forward posture when running. Everybody is a little different so listen to your body. If you start to feel abnormal discomfort, stop and/or slow it down.

Basically there are different exercises with different ranges of benefits. Running is an excellent workout for fat loss and cardio. Some people don't like running or cannot do it comfortably so they substitute it with an eliptical machine. You may or may not burn the same amount of calories as you would running but the best cardio exercise is the one you enjoy and are going to stick with. So don't worry if you're not burning as much on the eliptical as the guy sprinting around the neighborhood. As long as you're doing something.

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Agree- running is the best cardio EVER!!! Only problem is, it's bad on the joints so buy some really good shoes and pay attention to form. I just bought Adidas 1 DLX and can't wait to try them out. They're probably all hype- but new toys always keep me motivated.
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LOL i don't care if you agree or disagree its not an opinion its a fact.
Actually 'fact' is that running does cost more energy per unit distance than walking for most speeds, due to the different mechanics of running vs walking.

The difference lies in running having a flight phase. Lifting the body into flight against gravity is where the extra energy is used.
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agreed, running is the bomb... but after about 2.5 miles I get some pretty bad cramps/feelings like I gotta take a massive dump. After I get past that (takes about 3 minutes), it's great. I could go for miles and miles after I get over that feeling.
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agreed, running is the bomb... but after about 2.5 miles I get some pretty bad cramps/feelings like I gotta take a massive dump. After I get past that (takes about 3 minutes), it's great. I could go for miles and miles after I get over that feeling.
LOL!

I love running too. Too cold to go outside here in Buffalo, so I keep to my 'mill.
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I just started slower and pushed myself a little farther every time.

Yes, walking 1 mile is CLOSE to the same as running 1 mile. NOW, that being said, most people do cardio by 'time'. They say 'okay, time to do 30 min of cardio'. So, I do 3.5 miles running in 30 min, while some one walking will be lucky to get in 1.5 or so miles. I burned WAY more cals in those 30 min.
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I just started slower and pushed myself a little farther every time.

Yes, walking 1 mile is CLOSE to the same as running 1 mile. NOW, that being said, most people do cardio by 'time'. They say 'okay, time to do 30 min of cardio'. So, I do 3.5 miles running in 30 min, while some one walking will be lucky to get in 1.5 or so miles. I burned WAY more cals in those 30 min.
Completely agree, except when i first started out I could walk 3.5 miles in and hour, no way I could run or even run/walk 3.5 miles. After a few months walking 3.5 miles I kept upping my pace and then started running for 1 minutes then walking for 4 minutes. Now I'm up to running 3 minutes / walking 2 minutes over the 3.5 miles.
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i find the thought of running just horrible, i dread it like mad, but once im out there i don't want to stop.

i run at 6:30AM, the air feels cleaner and the lower temperature helps me alot. but trying to keep a sleeping pattern that allows me to do that cnosistantly is an absolute nightmare.
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