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Old 11-10-2008, 07:58 PM   #1
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Arrow How to run like forever?

I'm trying to start jogging and I've found myself having difficulty to keep up with the pace. But I would like to eventually join the marathon and run like there is no tomorrow. Hahah

Any advice/tip would be very appreciated.
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Old 11-10-2008, 08:12 PM   #2
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It's kinda hard to try and instruct someone how to run more haha. But, just some things that come to mind are to stay hydrated (obviously), maybe a gatorade or 2 beforehand to get some sugar.

To train and practice, what I used to do was increase my distance every night to get used to running far. Like, I'll run 1/2 the first night training, then 1 mile the 2nd night, then 1.5 miles the 3rd. By the end of the week I hit 2 miles. To be honest, I could run forever, but just not at any impressive/record time. I have good control with pacing myself and keeping my legs moving.

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Sprint intervals will greatly enhance your stamina.
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thats where its at right there.

sprint, 30/60's or 60/120s are where its at for that.
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practice, practice, practice

you wont be able to just go out one day and run a marathon. people train for months for those. you have to work your way up to it, even if when you start out you can only run a lap around the track. The next time you go out, try to run two. then three the next time. dont try to sprint the whole thing, just remember to pace yourself. running is a sport that requires alot of patience to get good at.
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i use to run cross country in high school, when out of school during the summer i liked to follow workouts on this website, www.coolrunning.com, probably the best site online for running

you should be able to find any program well suited for yourself to get in marathon shape
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you just gotta run a little longer every day.

i've done a marathon and the best way to begin, even before training for a marathon... is just to run... a lot.
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I'm trying to start jogging and I've found myself having difficulty to keep up with the pace. But I would like to eventually join the marathon and run like there is no tomorrow. Hahah

Any advice/tip would be very appreciated.
In the UK there are running clubs - my gym has one for advanced runners and beginners. You could look for something like this in your area or try at your gym.
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thats where its at right there.

sprint, 30/60's or 60/120s are where its at for that.
why are people so hung up on intervals..

interval training can be used as a part of your endurance training to excel at hills and finishing strong, but is a totally different metabolic pathway than steady state cardio. If one wants to build up distance, they need to run distance.

OP, run at a casual pace, keep building up your distance. When you can get to a decent distance that makes you happy, work on improving pace.
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why are people so hung up on intervals..

interval training can be used as a part of your endurance training to excel at hills and finishing strong, but is a totally different metabolic pathway than steady state cardio. If one wants to build up distance, they need to run distance.

OP, run at a casual pace, keep building up your distance. When you can get to a decent distance that makes you happy, work on improving pace.
agreed.

I had to work at both. I can sprint and I can run long distance but just doing sprints doesn't make you work passed your threshold.

I found that from not running long distances albeit on a tread mill, I started to hit a brick wall. I've gotten back into now but it took some doing.
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Thanks, all. I've repped ;D I think I'm going to get me one of the gps watch so that I can track any mile I run outside, and increase the distance day by day.
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Start slower. No one can run at top speed for a long time.

Your endurance will build by doing it over and over.

Speed will come in time.
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I found the Nike+ iPod gadget helped my runs a lot as you can upload onto their website and keep track of your progress - quite motivational... I'm sure you can get other similar gadgets to help. Quitting smoking has also improved my runs

Most of all - have some really good music loaded up. Doesn't have to be really heavy - that was my mistake for a long time.. listening to really heavy music the whole time. It actually can be draining to have heavy music blasting for hours. Now I go with steady music, upbeat but very catchy..

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Short sprints would not help in running a marathon and do not help develop stamina. This is why there is a difference between marathon runners and sprinters. The more short sprints you do, the less mileage you would run whereas longer jogging periods develop stamina and decrease speed. If you are serious in running a marathon- go to runnersworld.com and you will find a good workout program there.
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Good running shoes are also very important. Go to a shoe specialist and get a pair fitted/tailored to your running style/stride.
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great thread. the last 2 nights i have ran. the first night i did a jog/walk...mainly walking. i was a little sore.
last night i jogged 75 percent of it and i am sore as crap!!! sad huh? onlu 30 minutes too.
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To the OP- Like other people have said make sure you run a little further each time you run. This way you will gradually build up endurance to run further.

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great thread. the last 2 nights i have ran. the first night i did a jog/walk...mainly walking. i was a little sore.
last night i jogged 75 percent of it and i am sore as crap!!! sad huh? onlu 30 minutes too.
No need to worry, after your first few times running your body will not get sore, unless you change things up. Just make sure you eat well, get enough sleep, and give yourself some time to recover before you run again.
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why are people so hung up on intervals..

interval training can be used as a part of your endurance training to excel at hills and finishing strong, but is a totally different metabolic pathway than steady state cardio. If one wants to build up distance, they need to run distance.

OP, run at a casual pace, keep building up your distance. When you can get to a decent distance that makes you happy, work on improving pace.
I used to do intervals and it helped with my training!









.........Although my intervals where 3mile intervals!
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Old 11-12-2008, 01:50 PM   #22
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To the OP- Like other people have said make sure you run a little further each time you run. This way you will gradually build up endurance to run further.



No need to worry, after your first few times running your body will not get sore, unless you change things up. Just make sure you eat well, get enough sleep, and give yourself some time to recover before you run again.
Thanks. Yeah, I've just bought the garmin forerunner 305 watch. I'm going to increase my running whenever I go out to the park. ;D
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Old 11-12-2008, 01:57 PM   #23
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The event dictate the training pattern, if you never ran, I doubt you can run a marathon this years or next year. Rule of thumb, it takes 2-3years of constant training juste to have the tendon and lowerback ready for the distance. Find a Sprint triathlon or an 5k run and see how it goes and how you feel. See if you enjoy the lifestyle...etc.
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Thanks. Yeah, I've just bought the garmin forerunner 305 watch. I'm going to increase my running whenever I go out to the park. ;D
I could chase you around the park as an attempt to motivate you to run faster and further.
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I personally have been training for a marathon and, beforehand, had little experience in running. As far as my personal experience, I started off slow. I ran about a mile each night (with the ocassional 4th or 5th day to rest) for one week. That took me an agonizing 10 minutes. 10 minutes isn't bad for starting out, but I was dead tired. However by the end of the week, I was feeling better after the 1 mile. So much so that I wanted to do more, but kept myself at doing 1 mile a day that week. The next week, I decided to work on going a bit farther, so I upped it to 2 miles. When I found that was too much, I changed it up a bit. I saw some advice online somewhere about doing a jog/walk/sprint method. Basically, I would jog for 30 seconds, walk for 20, sprint for 10. Yes, it looks funny if you see someone doing this on the road, but the thing is that the next day I found myself wanting to walk less, but jog and run more. So I adjusted it to 35/15/20. Eventually by the third week, I was taking the walk part out altogether. I literally was counting the seconds as I was jogging/walking/running (though the first night I did this, I was so focused on counting that I didn't realize I somehow had ran 4 miles and paid for it dearly the next morning). This led me to be jogging and running consistently (and eventually just running). Over the weeks, I increased the distance. With my ipod on, I really didn't realize that I ended up going over my time and distance and somehow was pulling off 5 miles by the end of the month at a rate of 40 minutes (which is about an 8 minute mile). After that, I stayed at doing 5 miles each morning I ran, but to decrease the time to do it. After another month of making changes each week, I found myself easily doing 5 miles in 30 minutes (6 minute mile). I was athletic in my youth (at 18, I was the fastest on my varsity team and I'm 27 now), so it was easy for this transition back to that. Your experience with this routine may vary, but tweak the system as you see fit. Also, keep a log of this to see yourself change from week to week.
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Yeah to train for a marathon you pretty much just have to run alot. There has been plenty of good info posted on the early stages of training. I have been using a 2 mile run as a warm up before lifting for awile, and was able to complete a 1/2 marathon fairly easily.

Sounds like you are on the right track, w/ a heart rate monitor and a GPS, let your body dictate your training.
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I personally have been training for a marathon and, beforehand, had little experience in running. As far as my personal experience, I started off slow. I ran about a mile each night (with the ocassional 4th or 5th day to rest) for one week. That took me an agonizing 10 minutes. 10 minutes isn't bad for starting out, but I was dead tired. However by the end of the week, I was feeling better after the 1 mile. So much so that I wanted to do more, but kept myself at doing 1 mile a day that week. The next week, I decided to work on going a bit farther, so I upped it to 2 miles. When I found that was too much, I changed it up a bit. I saw some advice online somewhere about doing a jog/walk/sprint method. Basically, I would jog for 30 seconds, walk for 20, sprint for 10. Yes, it looks funny if you see someone doing this on the road, but the thing is that the next day I found myself wanting to walk less, but jog and run more. So I adjusted it to 35/15/20. Eventually by the third week, I was taking the walk part out altogether. I literally was counting the seconds as I was jogging/walking/running (though the first night I did this, I was so focused on counting that I didn't realize I somehow had ran 4 miles and paid for it dearly the next morning). This led me to be jogging and running consistently (and eventually just running). Over the weeks, I increased the distance. With my ipod on, I really didn't realize that I ended up going over my time and distance and somehow was pulling off 5 miles by the end of the month at a rate of 40 minutes (which is about an 8 minute mile). After that, I stayed at doing 5 miles each morning I ran, but to decrease the time to do it. After another month of making changes each week, I found myself easily doing 5 miles in 30 minutes (6 minute mile). I was athletic in my youth (at 18, I was the fastest on my varsity team and I'm 27 now), so it was easy for this transition back to that. Your experience with this routine may vary, but tweak the system as you see fit. Also, keep a log of this to see yourself change from week to week.

Freaking awesome advice!!!!!
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to me it's just a mind game

the most I've jogged is 4 miles....I wear a HR monitor and I was maxing out around 165-170 the entire time....I find that I feel the same tiredness as I do after 1/2 mile as I do after I'm in the 3-4 mile range...so it's just overcoming the boredom/drudgery of the jog itself, not actually my physical limitations

I'm trying to pack on muscle so long distance jogging isn't for me
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long distance running success comes from establishing a high VO2 max.

Best way to increase your VO2 max? Sprint your ass off and do hard interval training.


IMO alot of long distance running is mental. I get bored quickly....i find myself doing leap frogs over obstacles and all sorts of **** cuz i find it boring
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