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    why? well those are subjects in school required to get a high school deploma.
    might wanna check the spelling on yours... if you have one.

    not according to his site..........
    kid can't even read.
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    The national government is not going to REQUIRE that I do community service for a government that is EXTERMINATING MY RACE. THIS IS COMMUNISM and I WILL NOT do it. They will have to PUT ME IN JAIL.
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    Oh noes, you mean if we want teh change, we gotta pay for it? Goddamnit, Obama never mentioned anything about us having to put in the effort to make the change. OMG, (cries) life is so unfair -- I want FREE change!! I'm going to the mall, bitches! **** this.

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    Originally Posted by hardestgainer View Post
    why? well those are subjects in school required to get a high school deploma.


    not according to his site..........


    this idea= the starting process of communism along with "spreading the wealth" you guys need to wake the hell up.
    According to his site the only people required to do community service would be students in high school or below. As it is they are already required to attend school against their will, they are required to submit to whatever curfew laws may be in effect where they live, they are required to take certain classes or pass physical fitness requirements, etc etc.

    I'm a 30 year old male. I have a full-time job and am not in school. Quote me the passage from his site saying I will be sent to a volunteer camp. Show me... in his words, a direct quote, that I will be required legally and against my will to do community service.
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    Originally Posted by AdonisSMU View Post
    Nothing wrong with working for your government handout to go to college.

    If McCain proposed this program everyone would say that it was a great idea.
    What if I don't need a handout? My parents make a lot of money and they would rather see me improve my grades than do service for money.

    Sorry, mandatory work is communism. Next he will say that big businesses need to pay taxes to undeserving Americans.

    Oh wait.....
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    Originally Posted by Psstt View Post
    The national government is not going to REQUIRE that I do community service for a government that is EXTERMINATING MY RACE. THIS IS COMMUNISM and I WILL NOT do it. They will have to PUT ME IN JAIL.
    what race are they exterminating?
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    Originally Posted by Weekling View Post
    What if I don't need a handout? My parents make a lot of money and they would rather see me improve my grades than do service for money.

    Sorry, mandatory work is communism. Next he will say that big businesses need to pay taxes to undeserving Americans.

    Oh wait.....
    If you don't need the handout then you wouldn't get the loan which would mean you don't have to do the community service..
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    Originally Posted by Weekling View Post
    What if I don't need a handout? My parents make a lot of money and they would rather see me improve my grades than do service for money.

    Sorry, mandatory work is communism. Next he will say that big businesses need to pay taxes to undeserving Americans.

    Oh wait.....
    ur 19, its not required in college, its optional in exchange for a tax credit. have fun.
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    Originally Posted by hardestgainer View Post
    what about people that arent college student who are going to be required to do this?
    What about them? They're in high school or below. They're already required to do a bunch of **** as it is.
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    Originally Posted by shaftoe View Post
    what race are they exterminating?
    I heard Obama doesn't like greyhound racing
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    Originally Posted by shaftoe View Post
    ur 19, its not required in college, its optional in exchange for a tax credit. have fun.
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    Originally Posted by madmardigan View Post
    According to his site the only people required to do community service would be students in high school or below. As it is they are already required to attend school against their will, they are required to submit to whatever curfew laws may be in effect where they live, they are required to take certain classes or pass physical fitness requirements, etc etc.

    I'm a 30 year old male. I have a full-time job and am not in school. Quote me the passage from his site saying I will be sent to a volunteer camp. Show me... in his words, a direct quote, that I will be required legally and against my will to do community service.
    right now it says he will "encourage" but you have to be kidding me if you dont think he will eventually require it for you as well lol
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    Originally Posted by madmardigan View Post
    What about them? They're in high school or below. They're already required to do a bunch of **** as it is.
    ya for ACADEMICS, thats what you need to get a diploma lol. Forced labor goes completely against what this country is based on no matter what age you are.
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    Originally Posted by hardestgainer View Post
    right now it says he will "encourage" but you have to be kidding me if you dont think he will eventually require it for you as well lol
    Holy **** if that happens.......

    It won't, but if it does people will get killed.

    Oh wait they can't, they won't have guns, just a hammer and sickle
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    Originally Posted by hardestgainer View Post
    ya for ACADEMICS, thats what you need to get a diploma lol. Forced labor goes completely against what this country is based on no matter what age you are.
    I agree, mandatory community service for no pay kind of kills the point
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    Originally Posted by hardestgainer View Post
    right now it says he will "encourage" but you have to be kidding me if you dont think he will eventually require it for you as well lol
    And you're basing that on what exactly? Provide me some facts or quotes from Obama himself that backs this up.
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    you guys call yourselves patriots? lol hope not
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    Originally Posted by madmardigan View Post
    And you're basing that on what exactly? Provide me some facts or quotes from Obama himself that backs this up.
    Can't you just tell when you look at him? He's obviously a communist Muslim terrorist. I can just feel it.
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    Originally Posted by Kataxu View Post
    The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation?s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.

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    Originally Posted by hardestgainer View Post
    ya for ACADEMICS, thats what you need to get a diploma lol. Forced labor goes completely against what this country is based on no matter what age you are.
    To get a diploma from a public high school, I was "forced" to do 30 situps in 1 minute and run 1 mile under 10 minutes. How is that academic?

    In November 2008, there are millions of kids 16 and under who are forced to be off the streets at like 9pm.

    This isn't labor. It's not like they're going to send 6th graders into bullet casing factories. It's community service.
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    you guys call yourselves patriots? lol hope not
    Yea because mandatory service is freedom, right?
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    Originally Posted by hardestgainer View Post
    pretty sure that was sarcasm


    what about people that arent college student who are going to be required to do this? I also wont be suprised if that "handout" gets smaller and smaller as time goes on until its reduced to nothing.
    I think people are missing the point. Most things in life don't come for free. It's like those idiots who join the military for the school benefits. When the government comes knocking at the door and says, "we need you to suit up soldier". They want to cry fowl.
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    So far I have not liked one plan by Obama. Whoever voted for this dude is an idiot.
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    Originally Posted by Weekling View Post
    Yea because mandatory service is freedom, right?
    You did sign up for selective service when you turned 18 right?

    You were forced to go to school as a kid.

    Today, you are forced to drive the speed limit on the right side of the road.

    Are you still free?

    The fact of the matter is, none of us are truly free unless we live alone on our own private islands.
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    Originally Posted by AntWrig View Post
    I think people are missing the point. Most things in life don't come for free. It's like those idiots who join the military for the school benefits. When the government comes knocking at the door and says, "we need you to suit up soldier". They want to cry fowl.
    No i think you are missing the point. As its not just for college kids tuition, its for highschool and middle school students as well.
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    Originally Posted by hardestgainer View Post
    ya for ACADEMICS, thats what you need to get a diploma lol. Forced labor goes completely against what this country is based on no matter what age you are.
    so get a GED :P
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    Originally Posted by hardestgainer View Post
    pretty sure that was sarcasm


    what about people that arent college student who are going to be required to do this? I also wont be suprised if that "handout" gets smaller and smaller as time goes on until its reduced to nothing.
    He only wants to require HS and college students (who get government grants) to do this at this time. However, this should be extended to welfare as others have stated.
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    Originally Posted by jack90 View Post
    No i think you are missing the point. As its not just for college kids tuition, its for highschool and middle school students as well.
    I graduated from high school 10 years ago and it was a requirement. All of a sudden people are in a uproar when Obama talks about it?
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    Originally Posted by jack90 View Post
    No i think you are missing the point. As its not just for college kids tuition, its for highschool and middle school students as well.
    Good. Kids can learn how to be professional and have a sense of pride and learn how to take responsibility for things early.
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    the government won't change if we can't even bother to do some work ourselves

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