Finally realised flat bench just doesn't work for me.

[essential222]

So I have given up flat bench,

Due to my shoulders being able to semi dislocate (stretchy posterior ligaments or some ****) I just can't get flat bench right, dumbbells or bar it seems to put all the stress on shoulders and puts them in an odd position, and yeah I do pull them down and back,

So If I stick to decline bench, heavy dips and incline pressing with some fly movements I wont be hindering chest developement?

I can incline press more than flat bench for this reason, shoulders just wont sit right on flat.

WTB new shoulders >.<

[forklift]

you can try weighted push ups, and these:

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...ecDeckFly.html

[R_Bid]

yes, if you do incline, decline, heavy dips, and flyes, your chest development will be just fine.

[MIKES3]

So I have given up flat bench,

Due to my shoulders being able to semi dislocate (stretchy posterior ligaments or some ****) I just can't get flat bench right, dumbbells or bar it seems to put all the stress on shoulders and puts them in an odd position, and yeah I do pull them down and back,

So If I stick to decline bench, heavy dips and incline pressing with some fly movements I wont be hindering chest developement?

I can incline press more than flat bench for this reason, shoulders just wont sit right on flat.

WTB new shoulders >.<

Ever try doing dumb bells? I have the same problem. DBs work great though. Start out light and see where your comfortable

[Kiknskreem]

"Stretchy posterior ligaments or some ****"....

The way you say this sets off some alarms that you might not have done all the homework you need to on whatever shoulder issues you have and how to fix or work around them.

[ThickAsABrick]

"Stretchy posterior ligaments or some ****"....

The way you say this sets off some alarms that you might not have done all the homework you need to on whatever shoulder issues you have and how to fix or work around them.

You should make an instructional video for him.

[Bioteknik]

can someone explain how dumbells are supposed to be easier on your shoulders

[Skreddy]

So I have given up flat bench,

Due to my shoulders being able to semi dislocate (stretchy posterior ligaments or some ****) I just can't get flat bench right, dumbbells or bar it seems to put all the stress on shoulders and puts them in an odd position, and yeah I do pull them down and back,

So If I stick to decline bench, heavy dips and incline pressing with some fly movements I wont be hindering chest developement?

I can incline press more than flat bench for this reason, shoulders just wont sit right on flat.

WTB new shoulders >.<

I have the same thing here. I fixed it over time.

Smith Machine Guillotines. Do them. Make sure the bar stops right before your neck for safety etc. It'll blow your mind how you can actually use your whole chest and not triceps/shoulders at all. This 100% worked for me when bench press wouldn't. Just make sure you go into the guillotines with a lower than typical weight so you can train your chest to take the weight. Mind muscle connection is everything on this one.

A few months later I went back to bench press. It went from 125x5 to 155x5 and my chest was actually capable of moving the weight rather than my shoulders.

Good luck

[Paumen]

So I have given up flat bench,

Due to my shoulders being able to semi dislocate (stretchy posterior ligaments or some ****) I just can't get flat bench right, dumbbells or bar it seems to put all the stress on shoulders and puts them in an odd position, and yeah I do pull them down and back,

So If I stick to decline bench, heavy dips and incline pressing with some fly movements I wont be hindering chest developement?

I can incline press more than flat bench for this reason, shoulders just wont sit right on flat.

WTB new shoulders >.<

Doing just incline is fine but here..http://www.intens************/6997-ho...o-90-time.html

[rocketman44]

can someone explain how dumbells are supposed to be easier on your shoulders

They allow more flexibility in movement, whereas the bar locks your wrists (and by extension, your shoulders) into a limited plane of motion. You can get by that to some extent by changing your elbow postion and/or grip width, but that bar limits your options.

[Drekkor]

So If I stick to decline bench, heavy dips and incline pressing with some fly movements I wont be hindering chest developement?

Did somebody say chest developement?