Read My Book...

[richie191]

Yes, I fell off the face of the earth...and I've come back with a free book for you to download:

"You Mean There's Proof!?"

I was almost finished writing the book but couldn't quite finish it. Then I realized God didn't want me to make fame or fortune from the book. He just wanted me to spread the Word. The gospels weren't written with the intent of fame or money, so my book shouldn't be either. So I give it to you for free and hope you will help me spread it. Just choose a link:

YOUMEANTHERESPROOF.COM
CHRISTIANPROOF.COM
WHATINTHEWORLDISTHEWORLD.COM
SCIENCEOFTHEBIBLE.COM
PROOFOFCHRISTIANITY.COM
BIBLICALSCIENCE.INFO
CHRISTIANITYWINS.INFO
CHRISTIANPROOF.INFO
CHRISTIANSCIENTIST.INFO
DEADTOSIN.INFO
EVIDENCEOFCHRISTIANITY.INFO
FIND-THE-TRUTH.INFO
FORGIVENSINS.INFO
JESUSCHRISTONLINE.INFO
JESUSCHRISTTHEMESSIAH.INFO
JESUSISHERE.INFO
PROOFOFCHRISTIANITY.INFO
SCIENCEOFTHEBIBLE.INFO"
WHATISTHEWORLD.INFO
WHOISRIGHT.INFO


God Bless,
Richard

[StartTheMachine]

proofs are for math and logic

[kvk1]

Originally Posted by StartTheMachine

proofs are for math and logic

+ alcohol

[StartTheMachine]

Originally Posted by kvk1

+ alcohol

touche', good sir

[Ajulaks]

i already proved that nothing can be proved

[richie191]

Originally Posted by Ajulaks

i already proved that nothing can be proved

You're 19, everything in life is a paradox, I've been in your shoes before, and perhaps you've missed a thing or two?

[Ajulaks]

Originally Posted by richie191

You're 19, everything in life is a paradox, I've been in your shoes before, and perhaps you've missed a thing or two?

lol Im 20

[deejaykaydee]

You should fire whoever created your web page

[TheWalrusold]

what's the proof? i don't want to read the whole book just to find out you had a dream or something

[AKR]

Entered the first site. Saw this:

Of all of the theories and religions...

Only one agrees with history and science.





I quit.

[StartTheMachine]

Originally Posted by AKR

Entered the first site. Saw this:

Of all of the theories and religions...

Only one agrees with history and science.





I quit.

What, you don't wanna find out which one it is?

Personally, I'm excited to know.

[richie191]

Originally Posted by deejaykaydee

You should fire whoever created your web page

I threw the website together to get the content of my book out there, not to please web junkies. I'm not a professional web designer, so I apologize it isn't up to your standards.

[richie191]

Originally Posted by Ajulaks

lol Im 20

Yesterday it said that you were 19. Either today is your birthday, or you changed your age on your profile to appear older.

[richie191]

Originally Posted by TheWalrus

what's the proof? i don't want to read the whole book just to find out you had a dream or something

It isn't a single piece of proof. It is a collaboration of years of evidence and research. Most people dismiss or ignore one claim at a time, but few take the time to look at the whole picture and every fact. Take a gander and see if you discover a thing or two.

[Rune]

cliffs?

[richie191]

Originally Posted by Rune

cliffs?

The whole book is basically a bunch of cliff notes. It contains many different pieces of evidence described as short-winded as possible. So just skipping a few pages here and there and glancing at a paragraph or two will give you various facts. Just find a heading that interests you. How time is not constant, Einstein, archaeological discoveries, impossible statistics, science in the Bible, whatever floats your boat. It is broken down into small digestible sections, some only a paragraph long, so it isn't hard to read. Just take a gander and you'll see what I mean. It is mainly the introduction and the beginning of some chapters that may seem long-winded. I honestly hate long-winded books, so I didn't write one.

[richie191]

Originally Posted by Rune

cliffs?

Okay, so you want cliffs? Here's a couple:


Random Facts that are Given:

-The ground state level for helium, the carbon and oxygen energy level ratio, the mass of protons and electrons, the mass density and age of the universe, the speed of light, electromagnetic coupling, nuclear coupling, and many other factors have such a low degree of tolerance for life to exist that it seems impossible to all be coincidence.

-In addition to the perfectness of various forces and particles on the atomic level, our planet and the setup of the universe is also miraculously perfect. In fact, even considering every single planet in the universe, it still leaves only a 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance that one of them could sustain life the way earth does. Factors such as the orbital eccentricity, ozone level, amount of water, amount of vapor, surface gravity, and age of the earth, our distances from the sun, the center of the galaxy, and nearby supernovas, the color of the sun, and a myriad of other facts are literally PERFECT for us. In fact, it seems that nearly every factor is perfectly set up. Pretty nice for being completely random. I find it funny that so many people assume that because there are trillions upon trillions of planets in the universe, it seems absurd that earth harbors the only intelligent life. In reality, the only reason it's not absurd to say that such a planet exists at all is because we miraculously live on it!

-Albert Einstein didn't want to believe in God. He manipulated and even CREATED false theories to try and disprove God (such as the theory of an opposing force perfectly negating the supposed outward expansion of the universe, which Hubble finally debunked). What was his final verdict? He finally acknowledged "the presence of a superior reasoning power".

-Harold Morowitz calculated that if someone took the simplest living cell and broke the chemical bonds in it, the chance of it reassembling would be one in 10 x 10^100,000,000,000 . So how is it again that things just randomly evolved?

-The Bible is loaded with many scientific facts and assumptions that were not known at the time. Some were only just discovered this century (when to circumcise, microorganisms, blood borne pathogens, the spherical floating earth, etc.)! Even more amazingly, there are no obvious contradictions, such as the many contradictions in the Koran (i.e. stating that the sun follows the moon in orbit and that the sun rests in black muddy waters when it's not in the sky (come again??)).).

-The discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1947 have proven that the content of the Bible is nearly the same as it was over 2000 ago. Even more amazingly, many of the prophecies predicted in the Bible about Jesus (being pierced, being raised after three days, being born in Bethlehem, and many many more) were found in these carbon dated writings to have been predicted well before the time of Jesus.

-There are more than 25,000 different archaeological sites confirm Biblical history, and none that definitively disprove it. Many pieces of evidence that were once thought to disprove it have more recently been found to be incorrect and/or misunderstood.


Random Questions that are Answered:

-How could God have created the universe 6,106 years ago, when when it is 15-20 billions years old? And how the heck did He do it in 6 days?
-If God is good, why does He allow evil? Why does He allow children to starve?
-How can God be one, but be three?
-If thou shalt not kill, why did God tell so many people to kill?
-Why is there so many contradictions in the Bible?
-Can God make a rock so heavy that he can't pick it up?


This is only a tiny fraction of what is in the book. Everything listed is described in much more detail with a crapload of other stuff. But I'm not going to sit here and rewrite the whole thing. I already did it once!

[sumguy]

So is it all old disproven arguments collected into one source? Or do you have any new ones of your own?

[richie191]

Originally Posted by sumguy

So is it all old disproven arguments collected into one source? Or do you have any new ones of your own?

No, it is a collaboration of scientific evidence. Please disprove the facts I just listed. I just gave my evidence. What is yours?

[richie191]

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[sumguy]

Originally Posted by richie191

No, it is a collaboration of scientific evidence. Please disprove the facts I just listed. I just gave my evidence. What is yours?

What? I made no claim, just asked a simple question. And even if I did make a claim, I don't feel like re-hashing the same debates that are right here on this forum every day.

So then I guess the answer is no, you don't have any original material.

[richie191]

Originally Posted by sumguy

What? I made no claim, just asked a simple question. And even if I did make a claim, I don't feel like re-hashing the same debates that are right here on this forum every day.

So then I guess the answer is no, you don't have any original material.

Actually, you did make a claim. I gave a short list of evidence, and responding to that list, you asked "So is it all old disproven arguments...". Thus, you claimed that what I listed was old disproven arguments, and I subsequently asked you to explain the "disproven" part. And yes, I have plenty of original material and thoughts within the book. I expand on many topics. But why should I rewrite what I have already written and laid out for you? If you would like to look, go ahead. If not, please don't ask me to rewrite my book. I have no problem debating what is contained within the book. But if you can't even take the time to quickly search out a topic to debate that I have already written on, then I cannot take the time to find one for you.

[Weightaholic]

Looked at it. All you've done is plagiarise old, discredited and mostly nonsensical "facts" from creationist sites such as answersingenesis.

Negged for not citing sources.

[dunnie]

We Do Not Know The Hand Of God

[sumguy]

Originally Posted by richie191

Actually, you did make a claim. I gave a short list of evidence, and responding to that list, you asked "So is it all old disproven arguments...". Thus, you claimed that what I listed was old disproven arguments, and I subsequently asked you to explain the "disproven" part. And yes, I have plenty of original material and thoughts within the book. I expand on many topics. But why should I rewrite what I have already written and laid out for you? If you would like to look, go ahead. If not, please don't ask me to rewrite my book. I have no problem debating what is contained within the book. But if you can't even take the time to quickly search out a topic to debate that I have already written on, then I cannot take the time to find one for you.

Nice assumptions, but no, I did not make that claim. But after looking over the book I see a lot of God of the Gaps, your opinion that other religions make no sense, you say Christianity must be right because it is so popular, and the tired old Hugh Ross argument that doesn't contain logic.

[richie191]

[/QUOTE]Negged for not citing sources.[/QUOTE]

Actually there are a lot of sources contained in the text, and a few more at the end of the book:

Barnett, L. (1948). The Universe and Dr. Einstein. p. 106. William Sloane Associates. New York.
Berge, T. (2005). Science and the Bible: Evidence-Based Christian Belief. Templeton Foundation Press. West Conshohocken, PA.
Norman Geisler (1999). Baker Encyclopedia of Apologetics (Grand Rapids, MI.: Baker Books, 1999) 47.
Hensgen, T. (1981). The Achilles Heel in Jerusalem's Water System. Biblical Archaeology. Review 7:18.
Kearley, F. F. An Examination Of Alleged Contradictions In The Gospels. Retrieved on 09Aug2008 from http://www.apologeticspress.org/rr/r...s-in-the-G.pdf
Lide, D. (2007). CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics. 88th Edition. Taylor and Francis.
Little, P. E. (2000). Does Archaeology Verify Scripture? Know Why You Believe. Intervarsity Press. Downers Grove, IL.
Myron, H. (2000). Department of Energy. Retrieved from http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc...9/ast99215.htm on 13July2008.
McMillen, S.I. (1984). None of These Diseases (Old Tappan, NJ: Revell).
National High Magnetic Field. (2005). Laboratory. Molecular Expressions. Retrieved from http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/cells/animalcell.html on 9July2008.
Rodabaugh, D. J. (1975). Mathematicians Do It Again. Creation Research Society Quarterly. Dec. 1975. p. 173-75.
Ring, K., & Cooper, S. (1999) Mindsight: Near-Death and Out-of-Body Experiences in the Blind. Palo Alto: William James Centre for the Study of Consciousness.
Ross, H. (1995). The Creator and the Cosmos. NavPress. Colorado Springs, CO.
Schafer, A. OTS: The Elba Tablets. Retrieved from http://theopenword.org/ots/m_et.htm on 11July2008.
Strobel, L & Vogel, J. (2001). The Case for Christ. Zondervan. Grand Rapids, MI.
Water, M. (2001) Archaeology Affirms the Accuracy of the Old Testament. The Bible and Science Made Easy. Hendrickson Publishers, Inc. Peabody, MA
Williams, R. B. (2001). Hostility: Effects on health and the potential for successful behavioral approaches to prevention and treatment. In A. Baum, T. A. Revenson & J. E. Singer (Eds.) Handbook of Health Psychology. Mahwah, NJ: Erlbaum.
Wood, B. G. (1999). The Walls of Jericho. Bible and Spade. Spring 1999. pp. 35-42.
Wood, B. G (1990) Did the Israelites Conquer Jericho? A New Look at the Archaeological Evidence. Biblical Archaeology Review. March/April 1990. pages 44-58.

[richie191]

Originally Posted by sumguy

Nice assumptions, but no, I did not make that claim. But after looking over the book I see a lot of God of the Gaps, your opinion that other religions make no sense, you say Christianity must be right because it is so popular, and the tired old Hugh Ross argument that doesn't contain logic.

You're quite a speed-reader to have already thoroughly read my arguments. The God of the Gaps theory is expanded on by using the scientific theory that time decreases with speed. That actually makes the theory an interesting possibility, and is a good contribution to the arugment. My theory that other religions make no sense are explained using plenty of facts and exploring the Koran and other topics with plenty of backing. I didn't say that it must be right because it is so popular, I explained that it has a better probability of being right because the majority of people in the world agree on it, have experienced life change because of it, and most of the ones who don't believe it, follow a religion that is clearly based on Christianity in the first place.

[richie191]

Originally Posted by Weightaholic

Looked at it. All you've done is plagiarise old, discredited and mostly nonsensical "facts" from creationist sites such as answersingenesis.

Negged for not citing sources.

This book was not written for know-it-alls who have already explored every theistic possibility and have already created their own holistic theory of the universe. It was written for those who in fact do NOT know every fact and argument contained within it. So for those who are interested in a large collaboration of Christian evidence, please, read it. If you already know everything about the universe, good for you, but I'm not particularly interested in you.

[sumguy]

Originally Posted by richie191

You're quite a speed-reader to have already thoroughly read my arguments. The God of the Gaps theory is expanded on by using the scientific theory that time decreases with speed. That actually make the theory an interesting possibility, and I have not read the theory anywhere else. My theory that other religions make no sense are explained using plenty of facts and exploring the Koran and other topics with plenty of backing. I didn't say that it must be right because it is so popular, I explained that it has a better probability of being right because the majority of people in the world agree on it, have experienced life change because of it, and most of the ones who don't believe it, follow a religion that is clearly based on Christianity in the first place.

Yes, the time idea has come up on this forum before. No, I don't have a link.

Claiming something is correct due to being popular is not a logic-based argument. An idea has to stand on on its own merits. It used to be popular to think that breaking the sound barrier was impossible, or any of a thousand examples. Your arguments make many appeals, but logic is not one, and to me logic is the most important appeal.

[mchenrycruiser]

u must be pissed at god...he made u 5"5...