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Old 10-27-2008, 05:00 PM   #1
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Future Imperfect: Technology and Freedom in an Uncertain World

vid from Authors at Google. Here's David Friedman (son of Milton Friedman) talkin about how changes in technology could possibly change our freedom, privacy, etc, in the future. Pretty good vid. It's about an hour.


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Old 10-27-2008, 09:26 PM   #2
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Old 10-27-2008, 10:28 PM   #3
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Old 10-27-2008, 10:30 PM   #4
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I'll attempt to watch it some time when I got a straight hour. It's sounds like an interesting topic. Reps in advance.
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Old 10-28-2008, 08:10 AM   #6
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Old 10-28-2008, 03:49 PM   #7
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Education and public outreach will ensure we get more good than bad. Although many people believe if we can't find solutions to some pressing problems like solution that we may need to downscale some of our technology, before we start doing the same mistakes on new planets. (catapulting garbage into the sun would not be a solution)
Why not?
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Old 10-28-2008, 09:42 PM   #10
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Because in garbage there are many materials that can be recycled. And if we stopped focusing on money so much we would see that we should work to recycle from our garbage as much as possible.
Money helps us see the cost of doing certain things. If something costs a lot it means it requires a lot of input(or the value is high, lulz, but obviously recycling isn't "in demand" cus there ain't tons of folks making a point to buy recycled goods). But yeah I do think we should recycle.
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He makes a good point about cryptography but he also seemed to forget logic for a part of that. If you use cryptography and there are cameras(with microphones) filming you from every angle at all times, that cryptography might as well not have been used because everything you know is known before it is encrypted. So if we come to a point where there is no privacy, cryptography is meaningless. That information is known before it is encrypted.

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