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    I have been out of lifting for about 8 months, due to stage 3-4 hemorrhoids(depends how bad they get at the time). They started out a 4 then I had did 2 different surgeries, the first one was a laser which helped bring them to a stage 2. Then they got bad again from what I do not know and went to a stage 3. My doctor decided I should get a flex sig, now they are close to a stage 1.

    When I use to work out I worked out for about a hour - a hour an a half 5 times a week. Taking in about 200g of protein a day, drinking 3 protein shakes a day while having a pretty good diet bulking wise. My doctor has really no clue what is causing me to have hemorrhoids so badly at this age. She told me to stop lifting weights altogether and lift light at work all the time. I have stopped working out for the last 5 months, stop taking protein, and lifting nothing at work but it all seems like it only helps a little bit. Nothing I am doing is seeming to get rid of them completely. I have a bowel movement almost every day. I do hardly nothing at work but walk around on cement. My doctor told me it could be the cement I walk around on for 8 hours but I highly doubt it. I am clueless as well.

    I was mainly wanting to ask, what does everyone think if I were to lift a lot less time say get all my sets in within 30 mins, so I am not lifting for a hour an a half. Instead of doing for instance 10 sets for each chest and back day, only do 3-4 sets at max. Would that help my problem out any at all? Just really looking at ways to minimize my problem. Also when I was lifting, I wasn't doing any leg work out but walking so that might help my problem. I also take vein supreme which has butchers brew, grape seed, and horse chestnuts which are suppose to help with hemorrhoids. I am also on medication for them as well which help a little. I have researched them for days on end tiring to find out what else it could be.

    Back story to maybe help some. The doctor I go to is a specialist, but I may get a second opinion if everyone thinks I should. It isn't difficult to have a bowel movement as I take MiraLAX every single day as my doctor suggested. If I miss a day I will not have a bowel movement for atleast two days and if I stop taking it altogether I wont have a natural bowel movement for about 6 to 7 days, which will be a lot of pushing and straining.

    I don't really have stress in my life besides having hemorrhoids. I did have a bad period when I was a early teen having really bad bowel movements for about 2-3 years where I wouldn't go for 4-6 days sometimes and they were huge(no laugh intended). This was at age 15 I think, then I started having bad bowel movements till age 18. I never really had hemorrhoids throughout that whole time of me having bad bowel movements until I got my first job right after I turned 18, which consisted of a lot of lifting(5-40 lbs). After about 6 months of doing that job I start having hemorrhoids, then I went to the doctor, she did a surgery and told me I should start taking MiraLAX for my bowel movements. After 2 years I am still having problems. Someone recommended I do a colon cleansing product which may help my hemorrhoids, I'm willing to try anything just about. Sorry for the long post. Any suggestions or opinions on what I should do or might help would be wonderful, thanks.
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    How much fiber do you get in your diet? And what kind? Also how much water do you drink?
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    Hemis...

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    Lets look at your innards as the food processing factory they are.

    This factory works on the principal "Something in Something out". What goes in helps push something out. If you eat three meals a day and drink liquids normally, things should move right along. When this fails to happen and the intestines are physically normal, the stool is being packed for some reason and not moving right along. Here are some causes that I am aquainted with:

    1. I have a cold.
    2. I can't take liver supplements.
    3. I can't have Oreo chocolate cookies.

    The results of ingesting either #2 or 3 are immediate and without fail! I am thinking that perhaps you have a few edible items that you tap from time to time that are hardening your stool (drying it out) while it is in process.

    Standing on cement all day is a leg killer and vericose vein grower. No one should work standing on a cement floor, ever! (walking is bad, standing is the worst). I would not count this out as a strong suspect!

    One more thing... There is a digestive aid supplement called HLC, not pricey and I used it for three years when I was really stuffing in the food trying to gain weight... no problems at all.

    Whoops!... You could have the intestines X-Rayed, searching for a physical blockage area somewhere along the line of passage.

    No Charge!... LOL!
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    Originally Posted by Thuirwyne View Post
    How much fiber do you get in your diet? And what kind? Also how much water do you drink?
    I probably get 10-15g of fiber daily. I don't really need fiber as I take MiraLAX which makes my bowel movements easy and soft if I don't miss a dosage. I drink just as much as I did when I was lifting weights, which was over a gallon a day. Before I started taking MiraLAX, I was drinking over a gallon of water every day and getting atleast 10g of fiber daily. The odd thing my doctor told me was if I was getting that much fiber and drink that much water, that I should have no problem have soft and easy stools without having to push any.

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    Been there My Dear-

    Lets look at your innards as the food processing factory they are.

    This factory works on the principal "Something in Something out". What goes in helps push something out. If you eat three meals a day and drink liquids normally, things should move right along. When this fails to happen and the intestines are physically normal, the stool is being packed for some reason and not moving right along. Here are some causes that I am aquainted with:

    1. I have a cold.
    2. I can't take liver supplements.
    3. I can't have Oreo chocolate cookies.

    The results of ingesting either #2 or 3 are immediate and without fail! I am thinking that perhaps you have a few edible items that you tap from time to time that are hardening your stool (drying it out) while it is in process.

    Standing on cement all day is a leg killer and vericose vein grower. No one should work standing on a cement floor, ever! (walking is bad, standing is the worst). I would not count this out as a strong suspect!

    One more thing... There is a digestive aid supplement called HLC, not pricey and I used it for three years when I was really stuffing in the food trying to gain weight... no problems at all.

    Whoops!... You could have the intestines X-Rayed, searching for a physical blockage area somewhere along the line of passage.

    No Charge!... LOL!
    I do not know of any food I really added to my weight gaining progress when I was lifting weights to gain mass. The only thing I added to my weight gaining plan was protein powder/shakes. Which both my doctor and mother think was the cause of my hemorrhoids. I do not recall when I started taking protein powder and when I started getting hemorrhoids. Whether it was before or after I can not tell you. I haven't taken any protein powder for about 5-6 months and I still have hemorrhoids. I was going to test out a colon cleanser to see if that will do anything, I saw one at Wal-Mart for 35 dollars. Thanks again to both of the posters, always greatful.
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    Wow, your doctor is retarded. No offense. Most nutrition experts recommend that most American adults consume 25-35 grams of dietary fiber daily. Some nutrition experts recommend even more fiber: 35-45 grams daily. Regardless of the fact if you take stool softeners you need more fiber in your diet obviously. Mirilax and even metamucil which is better in my opinion should be considered supplements or in addition to, NOT in replace of. If you were eating that much and only taking one crap a day no wonder you got hemorrhoids. I would suggest at least 40 g of fiber a day seeing as you have issues already.

    Furthermore, there are different types of fibers you know, insoluble and soluble. You need both which is obtained by a healthy diet. So no offense to you again but your diet was probably crap. 45 grams of fiber is actually not hard to obtain if eating the proper amount of beans, legumes, fruits, and veggies.

    Not to continue my rant but proper fiber intake is essential especially if you are developing issues this young. Proper fiber intake reduces transiet time of harmful substances in your gut and reduces your chance or IBS, colon cancer, diverticullitis, etc. etc. If you are having these kinds of issues dont take it lightly. I do not think you can really overdose on fiber but the harmful effects of not having enough can be deadly in the long run. Like I said before there is a strong correlation between a low fiber or residue diet and serious disease processes.

    Up the fiber intake signficantly. 15 g is not really much at all. You need to increase your water intake as well especially if you start to workout again.
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    Originally Posted by killatiger View Post
    Wow, your doctor is retarded. No offense. Most nutrition experts recommend that most American adults consume 25-35 grams of dietary fiber daily. Some nutrition experts recommend even more fiber: 35-45 grams daily. Regardless of the fact if you take stool softeners you need more fiber in your diet obviously. Mirilax and even metamucil which is better in my opinion should be considered supplements or in addition to, NOT in replace of. If you were eating that much and only taking one crap a day no wonder you got hemorrhoids. I would suggest at least 40 g of fiber a day seeing as you have issues already.

    Furthermore, there are different types of fibers you know, insoluble and soluble. You need both which is obtained by a healthy diet. So no offense to you again but your diet was probably crap. 45 grams of fiber is actually not hard to obtain if eating the proper amount of beans, legumes, fruits, and veggies.

    Not to continue my rant but proper fiber intake is essential especially if you are developing issues this young. Proper fiber intake reduces transiet time of harmful substances in your gut and reduces your chance or IBS, colon cancer, diverticullitis, etc. etc. If you are having these kinds of issues dont take it lightly. I do not think you can really overdose on fiber but the harmful effects of not having enough can be deadly in the long run. Like I said before there is a strong correlation between a low fiber or residue diet and serious disease processes.

    Up the fiber intake signficantly. 15 g is not really much at all. You need to increase your water intake as well especially if you start to workout again.
    First things first. My diet was super strict(counting everything to the T), at that time when I was lifting weights I was getting well over 30g of fiber daily, not more then 40g. As I was told getting more then 50g of fiber daily can actually cause you to have IBS and make you backed up badly. Now I only get around 15-20g a daily, I don't count to the T but I know it's more then the avg American. I drink over a gallon of water each day, how much more do I need to drink? I thought the recommended water intake for a weight lifter was a gallon and a half.
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    That was when you were lifting weights, and obviously it was not to the T even if it was it was short lived. This thread is evidence of it. I am not breaking you down, you are saying it in your response, I am simply reiterating and saying hey look this is not right. 20 g a day is not enough. 50 g will not give you induced IBS. You cannot induce an inflammatory response through fiber it is an INACTIVE product we cannot break down (it activates nothing) it is too big on a cellular level to induce that type of response.

    I would not eat all my fiber in one sitting but that is common sense. If you are eating like you are suppose to you may still have this issue but it will be much less of an issue.

    30 grams is less than the recommneded amount and if you were counting to the T it might be even more skewed depending on your caloric intake. If you are a 100 lb female on a 1500 calorie diet that might be enough (nothing wrong with that).

    As regards to water you need more if you are having these issues. You water intake should not be as big of an issue but some people need more to function properly.

    I am not slamming you I am just pointing out what is obvious. You are denying your body of the nutrition it needs to function properly. Will it cure you maybe not, will help hell yes it will help. If you have not been getting enough fiber for as long as you are alive no wonder you are having issues. 20-30g is not enough according to what an average american needs and most experts would say you need much more maybe even double that.

    You should be on the high end of that spectrum unless you ohave another underlying disease process in which this would probably be a mild symptom.
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    Originally Posted by killatiger View Post
    That was when you were lifting weights, and obviously it was not to the T even if it was it was short lived. This thread is evidence of it. I am not breaking you down, you are saying it in your response, I am simply reiterating and saying hey look this is not right. 20 g a day is not enough. 50 g will not give you induced IBS. You cannot induce an inflammatory response through fiber it is an INACTIVE product we cannot break down (it activates nothing) it is too big on a cellular level to induce that type of response.

    I would not eat all my fiber in one sitting but that is common sense. If you are eating like you are suppose to you may still have this issue but it will be much less of an issue.

    30 grams is less than the recommneded amount and if you were counting to the T it might be even more skewed depending on your caloric intake. If you are a 100 lb female on a 1500 calorie diet that might be enough (nothing wrong with that).

    As regards to water you need more if you are having these issues. You water intake should not be as big of an issue but some people need more to function properly.

    I am not slamming you I am just pointing out what is obvious. You are denying your body of the nutrition it needs to function properly. Will it cure you maybe not, will help hell yes it will help. If you have not been getting enough fiber for as long as you are alive no wonder you are having issues. 20-30g is not enough according to what an average american needs and most experts would say you need much more maybe even double that.

    You should be on the high end of that spectrum unless you ohave another underlying disease process in which this would probably be a mild symptom.
    Oh don't get my wrong I am not trying to deny anything. I am doing something wrong and I am trying my dam hardest to figure out what is wrong. I weighed 180 pounds at the time. My job consisted of me lifting 5-40 pounds in 32 degree weather for 7 hours a day. After 2 months on the job I started lifting weights, but I did not have any kind of diet at all. I knew very little about lifting weights and just started lifting 3-4 times a week. 3 months or so later I started having hemorrhoids. I had to stop lifting weights and I couldn't lift anything at work, so I dropped down to 150 pounds.

    After getting a laser surgery, I started working out again about 3 months after the surgery. Throughout that 3-4 months of down time I discovered bodybuilding sites. I made myself up a pretty good bulking diet plan which had my total cals at 3630, protein at 235 grams, fat at 110 grams and fiber at 37 grams. I had it all written down in my bulking notebook, just looked at it so I could give everyone a accurate count. I just researched and saw eating to much fiber at once can cause constipated, if you don't get the right around of water to balance it out. If you start eating a lot of fiber all of a sudden you have to work your way up, it's not recommended that I jump from getting 15g of fiber each day to 37 grams of fiber like I did.

    I just don't understand how having soft and easy bowel movements, using medication, not lifting anything, using the bathroom daily, have had two hemorrhoid surgeries yet I still have hemorrhoids. Also forgot to say I do not have any bleeding history with hemorrhoids except for about the first couple weeks of having hemorrhoids, never had bleeding since.
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    Hello Scotteaxe,

    Hi, I'm from Malaysia.

    I'm not a bodybuildier - far from it, in fact, being
    badly underweight, and too old for it anyway - I'm 50.

    I found your good post in this forum here, while searching
    for some reviews on Now's Vein Supreme on Google.

    However, I have hemorrhoids, and like you, they have
    recurred only just a few years after quite uncomfortable
    and difficult surgery (I chose the new fancied "staple"
    method - big mistake).


    I was wondering, how did the Vein Supreme work for you.
    Was it pretty effective - shrank the hemorrhoids somewhat
    after one or two bottles, etc ?

    Looking at your last post, some people are just prone to
    have hemorrhoids, like me - I've had them since my early
    20s. Genetic dispositiion play a big part, I guess, both my
    parents had hemorrhoids, especially my father, who had
    pretty big ones before he finally gave in to surgery.
    However, his only recurred to Stage 1 (small internal
    ones, bleeds a little, no pain) after about five years, not
    a bigger external one like mine. Banding them by the
    surgeon solved his problem, and he has not had a
    recurrence again since.

    One product which you might care to try is red vine
    extract, originally made by the Swiss. I tried this some
    time ago, and they appeared to help. I might be
    ordering it again.

    http://www.healthspan.co.uk/vegetari...-c3193427.aspx


    I haven't tried this, but it looks quite impressive
    from the reviews.

    http://www.evitamins.com/product.asp?pid=414
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    Wow, your doctor is retarded. No offense. Most nutrition experts recommend that most American adults consume 25-35 grams of dietary fiber daily. Some nutrition experts recommend even more fiber: 35-45 grams daily. Regardless of the fact if you take stool softeners you need more fiber in your diet obviously. Mirilax and even metamucil which is better in my opinion should be considered supplements or in addition to, NOT in replace of. If you were eating that much and only taking one crap a day no wonder you got hemorrhoids. I would suggest at least 40 g of fiber a day seeing as you have issues already.

    Furthermore, there are different types of fibers you know, insoluble and soluble. You need both which is obtained by a healthy diet. So no offense to you again but your diet was probably crap. 45 grams of fiber is actually not hard to obtain if eating the proper amount of beans, legumes, fruits, and veggies.

    Not to continue my rant but proper fiber intake is essential especially if you are developing issues this young. Proper fiber intake reduces transiet time of harmful substances in your gut and reduces your chance or IBS, colon cancer, diverticullitis, etc. etc. If you are having these kinds of issues dont take it lightly. I do not think you can really overdose on fiber but the harmful effects of not having enough can be deadly in the long run. Like I said before there is a strong correlation between a low fiber or residue diet and serious disease processes.

    Up the fiber intake signficantly. 15 g is not really much at all. You need to increase your water intake as well especially if you start to workout again.
    I'll second all that!! here here!
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    A couple of teaspoons of psyllium (ie metamucil) each day IN WATER is that you need to to recurrence.
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    Hemorrhoids be treated?

    Yes Hemorrhoids can be treated by using various methods as shall be seen here below.



    Home remedies:

    - To relieve swelling use ice pack.

    - Cleaning the anus after each bowel movement with moist toilet paper or baby wipes.

    - You can use an ointment (creams) for temporary relief from Hemorrhoids.



    Natural methods:

    - Drink lots of water and fruit juice.

    - Start doing regular exercise such as cycling, walking, and swimming this helps to keep the bowels regular.

    - Avoid eating spicy and oily foods take boil foods and control diet only.



    Surgical methods:

    - Rubber band ligation for restricted the flow of blood.

    - Hemroidectomy is use if the internal hemorrhoids are very large.

    - Laser treatment used to vaporize various types of hemorrhoids

    Get more treatment method for hemorrhoids here http://www.hemorrhoids-treatment-guide.com










    Originally Posted by Scottelaxe View Post
    I have been out of lifting for about 8 months, due to stage 3-4 hemorrhoids(depends how bad they get at the time). They started out a 4 then I had did 2 different surgeries, the first one was a laser which helped bring them to a stage 2. Then they got bad again from what I do not know and went to a stage 3. My doctor decided I should get a flex sig, now they are close to a stage 1.

    When I use to work out I worked out for about a hour - a hour an a half 5 times a week. Taking in about 200g of protein a day, drinking 3 protein shakes a day while having a pretty good diet bulking wise. My doctor has really no clue what is causing me to have hemorrhoids so badly at this age. She told me to stop lifting weights altogether and lift light at work all the time. I have stopped working out for the last 5 months, stop taking protein, and lifting nothing at work but it all seems like it only helps a little bit. Nothing I am doing is seeming to get rid of them completely. I have a bowel movement almost every day. I do hardly nothing at work but walk around on cement. My doctor told me it could be the cement I walk around on for 8 hours but I highly doubt it. I am clueless as well.

    I was mainly wanting to ask, what does everyone think if I were to lift a lot less time say get all my sets in within 30 mins, so I am not lifting for a hour an a half. Instead of doing for instance 10 sets for each chest and back day, only do 3-4 sets at max. Would that help my problem out any at all? Just really looking at ways to minimize my problem. Also when I was lifting, I wasn't doing any leg work out but walking so that might help my problem. I also take vein supreme which has butchers brew, grape seed, and horse chestnuts which are suppose to help with hemorrhoids. I am also on medication for them as well which help a little. I have researched them for days on end tiring to find out what else it could be.

    Back story to maybe help some. The doctor I go to is a specialist, but I may get a second opinion if everyone thinks I should. It isn't difficult to have a bowel movement as I take MiraLAX every single day as my doctor suggested. If I miss a day I will not have a bowel movement for atleast two days and if I stop taking it altogether I wont have a natural bowel movement for about 6 to 7 days, which will be a lot of pushing and straining.

    I don't really have stress in my life besides having hemorrhoids. I did have a bad period when I was a early teen having really bad bowel movements for about 2-3 years where I wouldn't go for 4-6 days sometimes and they were huge(no laugh intended). This was at age 15 I think, then I started having bad bowel movements till age 18. I never really had hemorrhoids throughout that whole time of me having bad bowel movements until I got my first job right after I turned 18, which consisted of a lot of lifting(5-40 lbs). After about 6 months of doing that job I start having hemorrhoids, then I went to the doctor, she did a surgery and told me I should start taking MiraLAX for my bowel movements. After 2 years I am still having problems. Someone recommended I do a colon cleansing product which may help my hemorrhoids, I'm willing to try anything just about. Sorry for the long post. Any suggestions or opinions on what I should do or might help would be wonderful, thanks.
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    Is fibre really the answer?

    I'm new to this and i'm certainly not an expert in the field of nutrition or dieting (this is only what i've picked up from reading on trusted sites). I've recently started back on Whey protein after a period off because of hemorrhoids. I still maintained my training 5 days a week doing a different muscle group each day for at least 8 months. I was eating 3 regular meals a day and maintaining reasonable shape. After about 4 months the hemorrhoids had gone.

    I only recently started back on protein and back up to 6 meals a day because i'm due to go away shortly. this is my 5th day and they have reappeared. I have read about the high fibre in your diet, however i feel that it maybe something to do with digestion or lactose intolerence. i regularly consume 40-45g of fibre a day and it still seems to affect me (even after 5 days). What i am really getting at is there is something in the protein shakes which isn't being broken down either in the stomach or small intestine which is causing pressure build up. I have recently read about enzyme digest suppliments. I haven't tried these but after reading about them it certainly makes sense. I'll be a crash test dummy over the following weeks on these to see if these help my problem.

    Having read about digestion problems my symptoms are very much spot on. Increased flatulance, bloating and reflux are all common symptoms which i have experienced. If your problem stems from being lactose intollerent (lactose is present in dairy proucts especially milk and maybe even protein powder) then this means your body isn't producing the lactase enzymes needed to break it down. If your lactose tollerent then there maybe some other things which haven't enough enzymes to break them down such as proteins or other foods. It may not neccessarily be that the body is missing enzymes needed but with the increased amount of food the digestive system requires increased amounts of enzymes to break the food down. Therefore the more food/nutrition you take in requires more ezymes to break it down. kind of makes sense really. However this is just my opinion and i certainly be doing my own trail and error testing.
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    I have been out of lifting for about 8 months, due to stage 3-4 hemorrhoids(depends how bad they get at the time). They started out a 4 then I had did 2 different surgeries, the first one was a laser which helped bring them to a stage 2. Then they got bad again from what I do not know and went to a stage 3. My doctor decided I should get a flex sig, now they are close to a stage 1.

    When I use to work out I worked out for about a hour - a hour an a half 5 times a week. Taking in about 200g of protein a day, drinking 3 protein shakes a day while having a pretty good diet bulking wise. My doctor has really no clue what is causing me to have hemorrhoids so badly at this age. She told me to stop lifting weights altogether and lift light at work all the time. I have stopped working out for the last 5 months, stop taking protein, and lifting nothing at work but it all seems like it only helps a little bit. Nothing I am doing is seeming to get rid of them completely. I have a bowel movement almost every day. I do hardly nothing at work but walk around on cement. My doctor told me it could be the cement I walk around on for 8 hours but I highly doubt it. I am clueless as well.

    I was mainly wanting to ask, what does everyone think if I were to lift a lot less time say get all my sets in within 30 mins, so I am not lifting for a hour an a half. Instead of doing for instance 10 sets for each chest and back day, only do 3-4 sets at max. Would that help my problem out any at all? Just really looking at ways to minimize my problem. Also when I was lifting, I wasn't doing any leg work out but walking so that might help my problem. I also take vein supreme which has butchers brew, grape seed, and horse chestnuts which are suppose to help with hemorrhoids. I am also on medication for them as well which help a little. I have researched them for days on end tiring to find out what else it could be.

    Back story to maybe help some. The doctor I go to is a specialist, but I may get a second opinion if everyone thinks I should. It isn't difficult to have a bowel movement as I take MiraLAX every single day as my doctor suggested. If I miss a day I will not have a bowel movement for atleast two days and if I stop taking it altogether I wont have a natural bowel movement for about 6 to 7 days, which will be a lot of pushing and straining.

    I don't really have stress in my life besides having hemorrhoids. I did have a bad period when I was a early teen having really bad bowel movements for about 2-3 years where I wouldn't go for 4-6 days sometimes and they were huge(no laugh intended). This was at age 15 I think, then I started having bad bowel movements till age 18. I never really had hemorrhoids throughout that whole time of me having bad bowel movements until I got my first job right after I turned 18, which consisted of a lot of lifting(5-40 lbs). After about 6 months of doing that job I start having hemorrhoids, then I went to the doctor, she did a surgery and told me I should start taking MiraLAX for my bowel movements. After 2 years I am still having problems. Someone recommended I do a colon cleansing product which may help my hemorrhoids, I'm willing to try anything just about. Sorry for the long post. Any suggestions or opinions on what I should do or might help would be wonderful, thanks.
    Scottelaxe,

    Did your hemorrhoids ever clear up?

    I'm shocked that your using a laxative instead of fibre. Laxatives can indirectly cause hemorrhoids and make them worse!

    Take hot baths with Epsom Salts every day if you can. This will help shrink them and sooth them.

    Take a herbal supplement that has a good ammount of horse chestut (excellent for hemorrhoids, verricose veins etc..)

    Take lots of fiber and drink lots of water (will ease the stress on your rectum and hemmorhoids when having a bowel movement)

    Vitamin C with added bioflavonoids (this is important for two reasons: Vitamin C will help soften the stool and BIOFLAVANOIDS. Bioflavanoids are useful in reducing enlarged veins in the rectum by strengthening and improving the permeability of the blood vessels and capillaries. In other words, this will help strengthen your vein wall.

    *note* check with your doctor that you don't have high blood pressure. If you do, take another supplement for that. The bioflavanoids will also help with this.

    A product called Lorna Vanderhaeghe VeinSense worked wonders for my hemorrhoids. It has good ammounts of horse chestnut and bioflavanoids. If you're in the US, look for a product with similar ingredients. I took double (maybe triple) the recommended dose and added more bioflavanoids sepparately. That along with hot baths and a small tweak in my diet did it.
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    Good conversation....!!!
    That was when you were lifting weights, and obviously it was not to the T even if it was it was short lived. This thread is evidence of it. I am not breaking you down, you are saying it in your response, I am simply reiterating and saying hey look this is not right. 20 g a day is not enough. 50 g will not give you induced IBS. You cannot induce an inflammatory response through fiber it is an INACTIVE product we cannot break down (it activates nothing) it is too big on a cellular level to induce that type of response.

    I would not eat all my fiber in one sitting but that is common sense. If you are eating like you are suppose to you may still have this issue but it will be much less of an issue.

    30 grams is less than the recommneded amount and if you were counting to the T it might be even more skewed depending on your caloric intake. If you are a 100 lb female on a 1500 calorie diet that might be enough (nothing wrong with that).
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    What's your diet like? What's your sleep like? I've found that inadequate sleep can lead to irregularity. Laxatives aren't usually a good long term treatment and can actually make things worse (just wikipedia laxative and look under problems with use). I would recommend taking docusate sodium (a non-laxative stool softner). Besides that, like someone else said make sure you're getting enough fiber. Make sure your diet, sleep and daily schedule is in check in general. Those things call all affect digestion.
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    Hemorrhoids is very difficult problem. Hemorrhoids is international. Pails is herder for this hemorrhoids. So, it is very very highly problem and it is are crossed over line.
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    Hemorrhoids solved after 20+ years - probiotics

    I had extreme bleeding and anemia for more than 20 years. Nothing the doctors say, like don't wipe hard, don't strain, or use Preparation H worked at all.

    By using sodium docusate, Metamucil and senna and eating lots of bananas and pineapple, I was able to more or less maintain my anemic state without getting worse.

    Then I tried Clostridium butyricum. In three days, I got better. It blew me away.

    It's been a few weeks and my blood count is still on the rise. I've had two relapses, but both got better very quickly.

    A couple of days ago, I quit the C. butyricum and started eating kimchi two or three times a day, which seems to do just as well.

    I've heard of one case where natto helped as well, but I tried that daily for months without any success.
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    Hey, I created an account on this site mainly to answer this post.

    This is the third time I went on a whey protein supplement diet, taking 30g twice a day. Hemorrhoids appear again.
    All 3 times I can associate whey protein (I use the cheap ones 25-40$ per jug so I cant compare to higher quality) to hemorrhoid recurrence.

    The second and third time were relatively close time frames. After stopping protein shakes, my bleeding almost got reduced to a minimum. Adding fibre along with stopping the protein shakes almost cleared my hemorrhoids completely, then I jumped back on whey protein for the third time a few weeks later and the very next day.. BAM a ton more blood in stool. Needless to say something is terribly wrong with the protein shakes or else my body just cannot use them properly. I will be focusing on whole foods to meet my protein needs, unfortunately this is slightly more costly
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    My hemorrhoids was healed after 4 days
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    Natural remedy for hemorrhoids - bit.ly/1aNaJSX
    Good product. Has improved condition, but not cured it. Have only taken one course, so might have to take it for longer, to experience the full effect.
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    Angry Hemorrhoids with creatine and protein

    Hi everyone
    Can anyone please help me
    Whenever I start taking whey protein or creatine I gets hemorrhoid as just today I got bright color blood in my stool,can please anyone help what should I do, I consulted a doctor he said surgery is good but I don't think surgery is the long term solution also I am very much gym freak, I can't leave gym because this is only hobby I have in my life now I am just next to cry I don't what to do, can anyone please help what should I do, I shall be very thankful if anything or anyone can help me in this
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    Its all diet !!!

    Been there... my first sings of hemoroids was when i was 15 but i took an rectal cream called *Proctosynalar* and in a week they was gone. After some years i started having sings of hemoroids again i think it was spicy food and a lot of crap food also maybe not enogh watter that was gone with a rectal cream too buuuut after a long time while i was working out i was really in a good shape shredded af drinking my protein shake everyday not having any problems suddenly one day i woke up they was outside. That was the most worst moment ever it was so much pain i think it was from to much lifting squats or it was from protein shake or maybe it was my diet i really was not in a good diet buuut this time it didnt help the rectal cream i used to use always when i had sings of hemorhoids i was by the doctor he said i have external hemorhoids at grade 2 or 3 i think. He gave me some rectal cream and some supositories that helped me to get my hemoroids inside i could not run or play anything or stay sitting or standing it was so bad i was doing nothing only laying at home watching my diet no gym nothing really i lost my whole muscles i feelt like this aint gona heal never i asked the doctor for a surgery but he told me i need to wait and keep going with my diet becasue it will.take time to heal so it took me.1 year and a half to get heal from them honestly im still not all good but i see im almost rid from them. These days im working a little lifting only light weight. Things i used to do this whole time eating a good diet with fiber cereals whole grain fruits veggies, avoided sitting, standing long time, lifting weights, alcohol, spicy food, meats, fastfoods, cookies, drinks with high sugar, coffes , drinks with high caffeine intake. Also everytime u have a bowel movement when your hemoroids goes outside remember to put them inside again slowly and carefully than lay down relax for 2 mins let the hemoroids go back in their place again and than start doing what u gona do. Dont use toilet paper always use hot water with chamomile you can also drink chamomile it really helped me. Watch out what underwear do you wear cuz some underwears can irritate your hemorhoids. Also clean yout butthole everytime u do workous because the sweat down there its salty and also can irritate your skin. Try not to get in touch with shampo or things like that they will also irritate it. Its good to take hot baths for 15 min at least once a day. It really takes time to heal and its always a diet. Wish u get rid if them soon (sorry for my english)
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