Touch and go deadlifts vs reset on every rep

[BEhave]

I used to do deadlifts touch and go whenever I repped them. I found when I did that, my first rep would be with really good form, but after that, each consecutive rep, I would be using less leg drive since I was going up so quickly. I still had an ok deadlift. But now I started doing deadlifts again after taking a couple of months off of them due to sports, and I'm taking a second to reset on each rep now and I'm finding it's a lot more effective. It even feels harder, but my form has never been better.

For some reason though, whenever I do deadlifts, I seem to go up slow off the ground.

Anybody else reset for each re when doing deads?

[The_cannibal]

I always reset, except sometimes on warm-up sets.

And to get more power off the ground, try deficit deadlifts. I have a short torso, so I never have any problems at lockout, but I needed more power off the ground, and deficit DLs helped me quite a bit.

[Snoogy]

try deficit deadlifts.

Elaborate please. I reset, except when warming up, I do touch and go. What are these deficit deadlifts?

[swolegantor]

I rarely re-set. It doesent seem to make a massive difference for me however.

[The_cannibal]

Elaborate please. I reset, except when warming up, I do touch and go. What are these deficit deadlifts?

You stand on a 2-3" box/platform, which means you'll have to start the weight much lower, which will increase your power off the floor.

People who have problems with their lockout will do rack pulls, and people who have problems off the floor do deficit deadlifts.

[powerlifter70]

Elaborate please. I reset, except when warming up, I do touch and go. What are these deficit deadlifts?

They are just extended rom deads. You can either do them on a platform where the weight is off the end of the platform or you can stand on a 2x8 or some flat 45's. Pretty much anything solid to stand on that will give you a few more inch's of rom.

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[45BIG]

I always reset, except sometimes on warm-up sets.

And to get more power off the ground, try deficit deadlifts. I have a short torso, so I never have any problems at lockout, but I needed more power off the ground, and deficit DLs helped me quite a bit.

Pretty much do the same thing for similar reasons.

[Mitsuomi]

resets are a lot harder. IMO its like doing negatives with bench rather than touch chest n' go.

[soloskater1]

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[jag09]

how do you set-up rack pulls?

[BEhave]

how do you set-up rack pulls?

I've never done rack pulls.

[Lager1]

I used to do deadlifts touch and go whenever I repped them. I found when I did that, my first rep would be with really good form, but after that, each consecutive rep, I would be using less leg drive since I was going up so quickly. I still had an ok deadlift. But now I started doing deadlifts again after taking a couple of months off of them due to sports, and I'm taking a second to reset on each rep now and I'm finding it's a lot more effective. It even feels harder, but my form has never been better.

For some reason though, whenever I do deadlifts, I seem to go up slow off the ground.

Anybody else reset for each re when doing deads?

If you are trying to increase your deadlift, it's probably better to reset after each lift, because unlike the squat, where you start from the top, and wouldn't need to rack it and unrack it...the deadlift starts from a dead rest on the ground.

If you touch and go it uses the nature of your joints and tendons to reduce the load.

Plus it's just better to learn the form if every rep is reset.



I find that doing the grip and rip method works very well for getting this elastic response from your body, without having to bounce it off the ground. I can probably do 50 lbs more with the grip and rip than setting up and doing it "normally".

[jag09]

I've never done rack pulls.

i wanna try them for i can get 370 and lock it out

[Lager1]

how do you set-up rack pulls?

You go tot he squat rack and put the safety racks down near your knee so that the bar is a little bit under your knee. You then pull it like that. It just decreases the ROM.

[jag09]

You go tot he squat rack and put the safety racks down near your knee so that the bar is a little bit under your knee. You then pull it like that. It just decreases the ROM.

k thanks!

[BEhave]

Care to explain grip and rip?

[Chimpinzo]

people who have problems off the floor do deficit deadlifts.

If were to have problems lifting off of the floor. Would you recommend lifting their normal weight to allow their power to catchup? Or to drop the weight and jump to deficit deadlifts?

[The_cannibal]

If were to have problems lifting off of the floor. Would you recommend lifting their normal weight to allow their power to catchup? Or to drop the weight and jump to deficit deadlifts?

I do both: I start with conventionnal DLs, then do 2-3 sets of sumo DLs, and end with 3 sets of 2-3" deficit DLs.

Since I do my deficit DLs at the end, I use about 65-70% of my max, but you can do more weight if you don't burn yourself too much with prior sets.

You can checkout my training log to get an idea, the URL is in my signature.

[Chimpinzo]

I do both: I start with conventionnal DLs, then do 2-3 sets of sumo DLs, and end with 3 sets of 2-3" deficit DLs.

Since I do my deficit DLs at the end, I use about 65-70% of my max, but you can do more weight if you don't burn yourself too much with prior sets.

You can checkout my training log to get an idea, the URL is in my signature.

I'd love to mix and match concepts like that to fix any weaknesses, but I am currently trying to run Bill Starr's 5x5, so am not quite sure where I'd be fitting in the deficit deadlifts. Perhaps during the beginning warmup sets (since deficit deadlifts require less weight anyways) ?

[The_cannibal]

I'd love to mix and match concepts like that to fix any weaknesses, but I am currently trying to run Bill Starr's 5x5, so am not quite sure where I'd be fitting in the deficit deadlifts. Perhaps during the beginning warmup sets (since deficit deadlifts require less weight anyways) ?

OK, I didnt know you were on 5x5.
It is an excellent program, and you can probably milk it for gains for quite a while before having to modify anything about it.
Adding deficit DLs could screw you in the long term, because it could prove to be too much, and it could make you stall in your progression.

Usually, I tell people to keep doing the program AS IS until you "resetted" about 2-3 times without getting any progress on any lifts...
Then you can:
- modify some stuff to add a bit more volume/intensity, or
- try the advanced 5x5 version, or
- try another type of program, such as Sheiko, Westside, etc.

[xingjitsu]

I'd advise taking a small tape measure with to measure the height. 13, 15, 18, 20 are all good heights to pull from, but what matters is if you're consistent. A lot of the low mid shin rack pulls are really tough on the lower back, so be careful when doing reps. I strained my back pretty bad once doing multiple sets of 3, and my form was only the tiniest bit off. Now I usually stick to singles unless it's very light, and on complete max attempts belt up.

[powerlifter70]

Care to explain grip and rip?

All you do is get your feet set under the bar, bend down and grip the bar in rip it off the floor. You dont waste no time in the starting position getting set up. This way you still get some of the elastic rebound from when you bend down.

[Chimpinzo]

OK, I didnt know you were on 5x5.
It is an excellent program, and you can probably milk it for gains for quite a while before having to modify anything about it.
Adding deficit DLs could screw you in the long term, because it could prove to be too much, and it could make you stall in your progression.

Usually, I tell people to keep doing the program AS IS until you "resetted" about 2-3 times without getting any progress on any lifts...
Then you can:
- modify some stuff to add a bit more volume/intensity, or
- try the advanced 5x5 version, or
- try another type of program, such as Sheiko, Westside, etc.

I just hit 3x plates on deadlift for the 5x5, but I believe to maintain perfect form on liftoff I'd need to drop at least 30-40lbs which would set me back an AMAZING amount. (Simply difficulty /w liftoff, no significant back rounding, etc with higher weight) Would you recommend simply staying at triple plates until my form catches up then progressing? Or dropping weight until form is good, and raising the lift from there?

[PaHulkster]

I don't go over 5 with anything heavy so it's always just touch and go. I really can't stand resetting after every rep. Same with rack pulls.

[The_cannibal]

I just hit 3x plates on deadlift for the 5x5, but I believe to maintain perfect form on liftoff I'd need to drop at least 30-40lbs which would set me back an AMAZING amount. (Simply difficulty /w liftoff, no significant back rounding, etc with higher weight) Would you recommend simply staying at triple plates until my form catches up then progressing? Or dropping weight until form is good, and raising the lift from there?

Hard to say without seeing you.

Although, if there is no back rounding or any problems with technique, I'd say keep going with the program, and the problem may resolve itself with practice, as long as you remain "aware" of your technique.

I used to twist my trunk on heavy squats (as if my body wanted to put more weight on my right leg, which was probably stronger than my left leg), and it went away with practice.

[spooq]

I used to twist my trunk on heavy squats (as if my body wanted to put more weight on my right leg, which was probably stronger than my left leg), and it went away with practice.

I do this at the moment, trying hard to fix it. I think it is caused by my right side always hurting more than my left, and my body wanting to get the weight off it.