Powerlfters and Bench don't understand something

[ss4vegeta1]

Why do some guys wear a belt when benching? Also I notice some people super arch their back when benching why?

[Cricket_Fire]

Its most often used to hold the bench shirt in place

[NASAKYCHAIRMAN]

Why do some guys wear a belt when benching? Also I notice some people super arch their back when benching why?

A belt helps protect your lower back and give support.

The purpose of an arch is to decrease your range of motion and lead to lifting bigger weight. Otherwords, shorten your bench press stroke to help increase your max bench press.

TRAIN HARD

"BIG WILLIE" J.T. HALL
http://www.youtube.com/user/NASAKYCHAIRMAN

[ss4vegeta1]

Its most often used to hold the bench shirt in place

Even though its on the waist? Doesn't make much sense to me and I own a belt. Rarely used though.

[ss4vegeta1]

A belt helps protect your lower back and give support.

The purpose of an arch is to decrease your range of motion and lead to lifting bigger weight. Otherwords, shorten your bench press stroke to help increase your max bench press.

TRAIN HARD

"BIG WILLIE" J.T. HALL
http://www.youtube.com/user/NASAKYCHAIRMAN

Strange I def don't feel it in my lower back at all. I try to feel the pump in my chest. Alot of times I feel like I am working my shoulders more than my chest.

[Diana Meeque]

Even though its on the waist? Doesn't make much sense to me and I own a belt. Rarely used though.

when you jack a bench shirt down it can slip back up easily, even from something like just wrapping your wrists...so a belt will keep the shirt in place and make sure it doesnt ride up while you're pressing or setting up etc.

[ss4vegeta1]

when you jack a bench shirt down it can slip back up easily, even from something like just wrapping your wrists...so a belt will keep the shirt in place and make sure it doesnt ride up while you're pressing or setting up etc.

I never tried a bench shirt but def gotta pick up some wrist wraps for heavy bench and heavy powercleans

[EinMassengrab.]

Strange I def don't feel it in my lower back at all. I try to feel the pump in my chest. Alot of times I feel like I am working my shoulders more than my chest.

i've watched people max with an arch, and to get the weight up they start contorting - because their left or right side might be stronger... this would put more force on that part of your lower back and hurt it. i never use a belt except when maxing, because as long as your form is good arching is harmless for your lower back

[isaku900]

I never tried a bench shirt but def gotta pick up some wrist wraps for heavy bench and heavy powercleans

wrist wraps would not be beneficial to a power clean. they would be harmful as you wouldn't be able to rack the clean properly.

[Deadliftking]

Strange I def don't feel it in my lower back at all. I try to feel the pump in my chest. Alot of times I feel like I am working my shoulders more than my chest.

Then you don't have big arch.

[RAGS_21]

I only use a belt for squats, deadlifts, and sometimes barbell rows to keep my lower back in check. I think it would annoy me if I benched with it on. But that's just me.

[BEhave]

Why do some people at the gym use wrist STRAPS when benching? Whats the point f wrapping the bar as if your going to deadlifts the weight?

[ighairynutsack]

Why do some people at the gym use wrist STRAPS when benching? Whats the point f wrapping the bar as if your going to deadlifts the weight?

wrist wraps keep your wrists straight and help burden the load of the weight so you can lift more without harming your wrists. most people let their wrists turn and wraps would greatly help them. you should always try to keep your wrists straight anyway. wraps can help if you have an injury like i do.

[SDB1]

Arching your back doesn't decrease the range of motion. It turns a flat press into a decline press. Many lifters are stronger on a decline movement due to weak upper pecs. It should be avoided because it is cheating and makes you look like a fool!

[Diana Meeque]

Arching your back doesn't decrease the range of motion. It turns a flat press into a decline press. Many lifters are stronger on a decline movement due to weak upper pecs. It should be avoided because it is cheating and makes you look like a fool!

is this a joke post?

[James.Widener]

Arching your back doesn't decrease the range of motion. It turns a flat press into a decline press. Many lifters are stronger on a decline movement due to weak upper pecs. It should be avoided because it is cheating and makes you look like a fool!

I suggest you read up on PL bench techniques and do some research before posting something as absourd as this

[isaku900]

Even though its on the waist? Doesn't make much sense to me and I own a belt. Rarely used though.

you wearing britney spears' belly shirt or something? I'm gonna say this real slow, like to a 5 y.o., you put the belt OVER the shirt, and the belt HOLDS the shirt DOWN.

Why do some people at the gym use wrist STRAPS when benching? Whats the point f wrapping the bar as if your going to deadlifts the weight?

cause they're stupid. they don't realize the straps only work as designed when the weight is being PULLED away from their grip.

wrist wraps keep your wrists straight and help burden the load of the weight so you can lift more without harming your wrists. most people let their wrists turn and wraps would greatly help them. you should always try to keep your wrists straight anyway. wraps can help if you have an injury like i do.

...completely missed the point. there is a difference between wraps:

and straps:

Arching your back doesn't decrease the range of motion. It turns a flat press into a decline press. Many lifters are stronger on a decline movement due to weak upper pecs. It should be avoided because it is cheating and makes you look like a fool!

this is incorrect in a number of ways.
1. physiological-decline is a stronger movement due to a short Range of Motion and biomechanical advantage from the decline position shifts and improves your leverages.
2. There are no federations (to my knowledge) that require the bench press to be completed without an arch.
3. Further, artificially creating a "flat-back" during the bench press is dangerous and creates instability in the lifter. It is dangerous because in order to press your lower back flat against the bench you have to round the lumbar vertebrae away from their natural arched position.

thank you for participating but you are woefully under-informed for any serious discussion on the subject.

[ighairynutsack]

my bad i thought it said wraps and not straps.

[Errorist]

Arching your back doesn't decrease the range of motion. It turns a flat press into a decline press. Many lifters are stronger on a decline movement due to weak upper pecs. It should be avoided because it is cheating and makes you look like a fool!

Lol @ posting something like this in the powerlifting section. Or anywhere for that matter.

[Danimal]

I'm going to start answering these posts with the Harley rider mantra: "If you have to ask, you won't understand".

[BEhave]

wrist wraps keep your wrists straight and help burden the load of the weight so you can lift more without harming your wrists. most people let their wrists turn and wraps would greatly help them. you should always try to keep your wrists straight anyway. wraps can help if you have an injury like i do.

I said straps. Not wraps. As in straps people use to deadlifts and do rack pulls.

[Calhexas]

Strange I def don't feel it in my lower back at all. I try to feel the pump in my chest. Alot of times I feel like I am working my shoulders more than my chest.

Most powerlifters who utilize this method are using more their lower pecs...so decline is a better preparation exercise in my opinion.

However, I do not use a super arch, and keep my feet flat to maintain maximum support and as good a base as possible. This allows you to stabilize much more with your trunk, and is also a lot less dangerous.

Decreasing the angle indeed does help the overall completion of the bench out, but basically you're not doing a full ROM bench, and all muscles of the chest aren't being engaged to the same degree as a when using a flatter spine. This is the reason you don't feel a "pump" as much in the chest, even though that's not really a concern of powerlifting.

[powerlifter70]

Arching your back doesn't decrease the range of motion. It turns a flat press into a decline press. Many lifters are stronger on a decline movement due to weak upper pecs. It should be avoided because it is cheating and makes you look like a fool!

LOL...you should be banned for 5 days. During this time frame, I suggest that you read up on how powerlifters train.

[Smitty_1977]

I said straps. Not wraps. As in straps people use to deadlifts and do rack pulls.

In all my years in a gym, and some of the crazy things I've seen, I have yet to see someone use wrist straps for benching...I've seen straps for most other things. If someone is using them for benching, they are just plain clueless or ignorant.

[SDB1]

this is incorrect in a number of ways.
1. physiological-decline is a stronger movement due to a short Range of Motion and biomechanical advantage from the decline position shifts and improves your leverages.
2. There are no federations (to my knowledge) that require the bench press to be completed without an arch.
3. Further, artificially creating a "flat-back" during the bench press is dangerous and creates instability in the lifter. It is dangerous because in order to press your lower back flat against the bench you have to round the lumbar vertebrae away from their natural arched position.

thank you for participating but you are woefully under-informed for any serious discussion on the subject.

The arched back creates better leverage! That is why it's cheating. Not in competition but yourself! I highly doubt that the OP was watching trained powerlifters set a new PR in competition! More likely he's watching some idiots who resort to bad form to get the weight up. What's the point of doing that all the time? It's bad form and should only be used for Max attempts! I see half pints all the time struggling under 100lbs shoving their cocks in the air trying to get the weight up. It absolutely does give a leverage advantage and absolutley does look retarded!

I'm also not talking about keeping your lower back on the bench as this would be a physical impossibility. I'm talking about taking your ass a foot off the bench every time you do a pressing movement.

[isaku900]

The arched back creates better leverage! That is why it's cheating. Not in competition but yourself! I highly doubt that the OP was watching trained powerlifters set a new PR in competition! More likely he's watching some idiots who resort to bad form to get the weight up. What's the point of doing that all the time? It's bad form and should only be used for Max attempts! I see half pints all the time struggling under 100lbs shoving their cocks in the air trying to get the weight up. It absolutely does give a leverage advantage and absolutley does look retarded!

I'm also not talking about keeping your lower back on the bench as this would be a physical impossibility. I'm talking about taking your ass a foot off the bench every time you do a pressing movement.

you're still wrong, taking your butt off the bench = red lights in competition.

the OP clearly stated POWERLIFTERS in the title, hence it is reasonable to assume that he was asking about Powerlifting. In which an arch is perfectly legitimate.

thank you for playing again, but you you still lose.

[AJ010]

The arched back creates better leverage! That is why it's cheating. Not in competition but yourself! I highly doubt that the OP was watching trained powerlifters set a new PR in competition! More likely he's watching some idiots who resort to bad form to get the weight up. What's the point of doing that all the time? It's bad form and should only be used for Max attempts! I see half pints all the time struggling under 100lbs shoving their cocks in the air trying to get the weight up. It absolutely does give a leverage advantage and absolutley does look retarded!

I'm also not talking about keeping your lower back on the bench as this would be a physical impossibility. I'm talking about taking your ass a foot off the bench every time you do a pressing movement.

Might as well deadlift a few feet behind the bar. If you stand too close to the bar, you might create better leverage!!

Furthermore, arched-back bench press style still requires the lifter to keep their ass on the bench.

[The_cannibal]

The arched back creates better leverage! That is why it's cheating. Not in competition but yourself! I highly doubt that the OP was watching trained powerlifters set a new PR in competition! More likely he's watching some idiots who resort to bad form to get the weight up. What's the point of doing that all the time? It's bad form and should only be used for Max attempts! I see half pints all the time struggling under 100lbs shoving their cocks in the air trying to get the weight up. It absolutely does give a leverage advantage and absolutley does look retarded!

I'm also not talking about keeping your lower back on the bench as this would be a physical impossibility. I'm talking about taking your ass a foot off the bench every time you do a pressing movement.

First and foremost: why would you post something like that in a POWERLIFTING section is beyond me...

Second: you need to practice an arch to be good at it in competition, that's why powerlifters will use an arch in training; even with lower weights that would go up easily with non-optimal leverage. (for example, I arch when benching the bar as a warm-up).
Any movement require good technique, and good technique must be practiced.

[Lager1]

A belt helps protect your lower back and give support.

The purpose of an arch is to decrease your range of motion and lead to lifting bigger weight. Otherwords, shorten your bench press stroke to help increase your max bench press.

TRAIN HARD

"BIG WILLIE" J.T. HALL
http://www.youtube.com/user/NASAKYCHAIRMAN

It also increases the torque.

[BrotherWolf]

I'm also not talking about keeping your lower back on the bench as this would be a physical impossibility. I'm talking about taking your ass a foot off the bench every time you do a pressing movement.

you're digging yourself deeper ... LOL