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Question The--animal-pak--improved

I think that the famous Animal Pak

should be improved.

Well, let me explain what I mean before Universal send a hitman on me.



1.Exclude eleuthero and oriental ginseng (Animal Pak is a multi and you should take it EVERY day,I don't wanna take eleuthero every day)


2.Replace vitamin A (as acetate & 66% as B-carotene) with vitamin A (as natural mixed carotenoids, beta carotene, alpha carotene, lutein,zeaxanthin,cryptoxanthin)


3.Replace vitamin E (as d-a-tocopheryl acetate) with vitamin E (as palm tocotrienol complex and high gamma mixed tocopherols)


4.Replace vitamin D (as ergocalciferol) with vitamin D3 (as cholecalciferol)


5.Integrate vitamin B6 with pyridoxal-5-phosphate


6.Replace vitamin B12 (as cyanocobalamin) with vitamin B12 (as methylcobalamin)


7.Replace Magnesium (as oxide) with Magnesium (as hydroxide, succinate, malate)


8.Replace Zinc (as oxide) with Zinc (as L-methionine)


9.Replace vitamin A and vitamin E tablets with softgels


Anyone of you my iron brothers agree with me ?
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Old 10-22-2008, 06:10 PM   #2
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Just go with NSI Synergy 3000 Multi-Vitamin Version 11 instead. It has almost all of the suggestions you mentioned.
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Old 10-22-2008, 06:15 PM   #3
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Just go with NSI Synergy 3000 Multi-Vitamin Version 11 instead. It has almost all of the suggestions you mentioned.
Yeah I know, but I wanna see Animal pak improved,if you know what I mean ?
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Old 10-22-2008, 06:16 PM   #4
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How about Zinc Picolinate? Or maybe gluconate.
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Old 10-22-2008, 06:30 PM   #5
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How about Zinc Picolinate? Or maybe gluconate.
As far as I know zinc methionine is more bioavailabile than any other form.
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Old 10-22-2008, 06:40 PM   #6
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I think that the famous Animal Pak

should be improved.

Well, let me explain what I mean before Universal send a hitman on me.



1.Exclude eleuthero and oriental ginseng (Animal Pak is a multi and you should take it EVERY day,I don't wanna take eleuthero every day)


2.Replace vitamin A (as acetate & 66% as B-carotene) with vitamin A (as natural mixed carotenoids, beta carotene, alpha carotene, lutein,zeaxanthin,cryptoxanthin)


3.Replace vitamin E (as d-a-tocopheryl acetate) with vitamin E (as palm tocotrienol complex and high gamma mixed tocopherols)


4.Replace vitamin D (as ergocalciferol) with vitamin D3 (as cholecalciferol)


5.Integrate vitamin B6 with pyridoxal-5-phosphate


6.Replace vitamin B12 (as cyanocobalamin) with vitamin B12 (as methylcobalamin)


7.Replace Magnesium (as oxide) with Magnesium (as hydroxide, succinate, malate)


8.Replace Zinc (as oxide) with Zinc (as L-methionine)


9.Replace vitamin A and vitamin E tablets with softgels


Anyone of you my iron brothers agree with me ?

wow, great post! Have you been reading my multi threads? or just know this... regardless, spot on with the suggestions and i agree... Nothing against Universal as I am all for improvements and I'd probably be buying and using Animal Pak if it were more like this.
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wow, great post! Have you been reading my multi threads? or just know this... regardless, spot on with the suggestions and i agree... Nothing against Universal as I am all for improvements and I'd probably be buying and using Animal Pak if it were more like this.
Just know ...
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I think that the famous Animal Pak

should be improved.

Well, let me explain what I mean before Universal send a hitman on me.



1.Exclude eleuthero and oriental ginseng (Animal Pak is a multi and you should take it EVERY day,I don't wanna take eleuthero every day)


2.Replace vitamin A (as acetate & 66% as B-carotene) with vitamin A (as natural mixed carotenoids, beta carotene, alpha carotene, lutein,zeaxanthin,cryptoxanthin)


3.Replace vitamin E (as d-a-tocopheryl acetate) with vitamin E (as palm tocotrienol complex and high gamma mixed tocopherols)


4.Replace vitamin D (as ergocalciferol) with vitamin D3 (as cholecalciferol)


5.Integrate vitamin B6 with pyridoxal-5-phosphate


6.Replace vitamin B12 (as cyanocobalamin) with vitamin B12 (as methylcobalamin)


7.Replace Magnesium (as oxide) with Magnesium (as hydroxide, succinate, malate)


8.Replace Zinc (as oxide) with Zinc (as L-methionine)


9.Replace vitamin A and vitamin E tablets with softgels


Anyone of you my iron brothers agree with me ?
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Just go with NSI Synergy 3000 Multi-Vitamin Version 11 instead. It has almost all of the suggestions you mentioned.
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Molybdenum lowers testosterone level


Men with high levels of the metal molybdenum in their blood also have a lower testosterone level than normal. Epidemiologists at the University of Michigan discovered this when they analysed blood samples from two hundred men who were undergoing treatment at an infertility clinic.



Molybdenum is in our food. About twenty enzymes that are involved in protein synthesis, growth processes and oxidation in the body need the metal. We consume about 0.3 mg molybdenum every day. The body of an adult man contains about 10 mg of the metal.


Supplements manufacturers added molybdenum to vitamin pills for years. But recently they’ve become more cautious. Molybdenum is now only found in a limited number of products, e.g. the one pictured here, the Multiple Vitamin for Men Adam Superior. [Link] One pill supplies the modest amount of 50 mcg of molybdenum.



A more unusual product is the WaterOz Ionic Molybdenum: water in which the manufacturer has dissolved molybdenum. [Link] A teaspoon a day protects men from impotence and other complaints, the maker claims.


But if you look at the University of Michigan study, which will be published shortly in Fertility & Sterility, you might wonder whether it’s worth raising your molybdenum level. The concentration of molybdenum in the blood turns out to be the most powerful predictor of testosterone concentration that the researchers could find. The simplified table below shows the three strongest relations between the concentration of metals and testosterone that the researchers found.




<70th: the seventy percent of the men with a relatively less high level; 85th: the fifteen percent of the men with a relatively high level.


The lower the figure P, the more significant the relationship. Copper and zinc raise the level of testosterone, although the relationship shown for zinc is not statistically significant.


The testosterone-lowering effect of molybdenum was especially noticeable in men with little zinc in their blood.


Conclusion: the amount of molybdenum in the body is not significantly affected by taking supplements. Let’s be honest, environmental pollution is a more important factor.


http://www.ergo-log.com/molybdenetest.html
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