The kick that Vera uses on Jardine

**neowings** · 10-20-2008, 06:53 AM

Looks like a wing chun low kick which bruce lee uses. Pretty effective if practiced in a propper way.

**HardGainer82** · 10-20-2008, 07:17 AM

That **** looked nasty. I guess directly attacking the knee is one of those things that's "not illegal but frowned upon."

**Rifter** · 10-20-2008, 07:20 AM

That's why I stretch

**UrbanFlatline** · 10-20-2008, 07:26 AM

I practice this all the time but have never had a chance to use it in a match... I learned it in American Freestyle Karate when I was like twelve. Not so much as an attack but as a defensive move to stop there momentum

**the_guvna** · 10-20-2008, 08:00 AM

that gif makes me cringe every time

**bubba289** · 10-20-2008, 08:00 AM

*cringe*

**HardGainer82** · 10-20-2008, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by Rifter

That's why I stretch

I don't know how much that helps when a 205 pound man hyperextends your knee.

**CR123** · 10-20-2008, 08:07 AM

Would be effective in a street fight where you fear for your safety or life.

As for the ring it's kind of dirty wait, no it is dirty.

and I like Vera.

**UrbanFlatline** · 10-20-2008, 08:12 AM

How is it dirty? That is a move just like an elbow or punch...

**CR123** · 10-20-2008, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by UrbanFlatline

How is it dirty? That is a move just like an elbow or punch...

You're right it is a move but, it was a straight kick toward Jardines knee. Looks like an attempt to hyperextend or even tear the ligaments.

A punch to the throat is just a punch but, with bad intentions.

**drpurple** · 10-20-2008, 08:18 AM

muay thai push kick.

if you tap about half way up the thigh as the opponent comes in for a strike, the balance is rocked, as the leg is stopped in its movement.

i think he went for that, and missed slightly. whatever it was, it worked.

**HardGainer82** · 10-20-2008, 08:27 AM

Yeah I don't think he was deliberately trying to do that to the knee, and if he was that's kinda a scummy move.

**tabloid** · 10-20-2008, 08:30 AM

wow, rear leg teep to the thigh is really hard to land during a fight. Vera's Muay Thai is pretty good.

**mophatthedamaja** · 10-20-2008, 08:30 AM

i wouldn't do that to someone coming at me, even in a fight worth thousands of dollars, i would be afraid i'd end a career

no vera hate i don't think it was intentional, just a ****ty move

**drpurple** · 10-20-2008, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by HardGainer82

Yeah I don't think he was deliberately trying to do that to the knee, and if he was that's kinda a scummy move.

thats why i think it was a mistake. i kicked someone like that during sparring, and his knee did the exact same thing. i felt dso **** afterwards. i think he was expecting to put him off balance, not snap his knee.

**pikeamus** · 10-20-2008, 09:00 AM

Looked like a standard knee stomp that they teach in wing chun, kali, krav and dozens of other self defence orientated martial arts. I've never been taught it in a sport based striking art because as people have mentioned its the kinda thing that can do permanent damage. However its not against the rules in mma so you can't really blame someone for using it, the rules seem to cover everything else.

**King Baer** · 10-20-2008, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by mophatthedamaja

i wouldn't do that to someone coming at me, even in a fight worth thousands of dollars, i would be afraid i'd end a career

no vera hate i don't think it was intentional, just a ****ty move

You could seriously injure somebody with a variety of moves: heel hook, slam, even a punch to the face. One of our guys broke his opponent's orbital bone with a punch on Saturday in a sanctioned fight.

Jaws get broken all the time... etc. Fighting is a dangerous sport. I wouldn't worry too much about a teep to the thigh. One of my favorite moves, but again I don't go for the knee, I go for the thigh. Sets up a good lead leg kick or knee.

**Madevilz** · 10-20-2008, 09:14 AM

ya, that's a Muay Thai push kick... only he used it a a bit too low imo... that could have destroyed Jardine's knee if enough power was put.

**injured44** · 10-20-2008, 09:18 AM

that move should be reserved for street fights it looked very cheap seeing it in a MMA match, and jardine must have torn some ligaments the thing bent backwards

**IzRiot** · 10-20-2008, 09:25 AM

lol brutal teep.

**UrbanFlatline** · 10-20-2008, 09:27 AM

But if you watch the video it wasnt used as a strike but as a push to stop momentum... He could have struck the knee and caused damage but it doesnt take a lot of force at the point to stop a body from coming forward

**UrbanFlatline** · 10-20-2008, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by injured44

that move should be reserved for street fights it looked very cheap seeing it in a MMA match, and jardine must have torn some ligaments the thing bent backwards

Look again... It bent sideways

**CLEAN_SET_OF_10** · 10-20-2008, 09:40 AM

Another pound of force and Jardine's MCL would have ripped in two

**Clark_Kent** · 10-20-2008, 09:43 AM

If he had landed that kick 6 - 8 inches higher on mid thigh would this even be an issue? I am surprised he was as accurate as he was with it. A guy in an amateur Muay Thai fight I went too on Saturday landed the same kick, mid thigh though, and put his opponent on his face. It was very effective and caused no real damage to the guy getting kicked.

**DOC** · 10-20-2008, 09:58 AM

ya they teach that kick in hapkido knee and hip are the two targets. i didnt think you were allowed to attack the knee like that in mma?

**Coach McGuirk** · 10-20-2008, 10:04 AM

I asked about this in another thread

Originally Posted by Coach McGuirk

did anyone think veras push kick to the knee was dirty??

and this was the only response i got lol

Originally Posted by moodymikey

how is that dirty? its a legit technique...hurts like a bitch when someone pulls it off as well. To be honest im surprised that it isnt used more in the UFC

anyway it DOES seem a little dirty to me and i see some of you agree... yes it is legal but it just seemed Fed up to try to blow out someones knee...

Originally Posted by drpurple

muay thai push kick.

if you tap about half way up the thigh as the opponent comes in for a strike, the balance is rocked, as the leg is stopped in its movement.

i think he went for that, and missed slightly. whatever it was, it worked.

i agree with this... also idk if anyone noticed but he didnt really go back to that leg until the end of round... maybe he felt bad?? (strong speculation lol)

**DaeJ** · 10-20-2008, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by DOC

ya they teach that kick in hapkido knee and hip are the two targets. i didnt think you were allowed to attack the knee like that in mma?

Originally Posted by HardGainer82

I don't know how much that helps when a 205 pound man hyperextends your knee.

Originally Posted by HardGainer82

That **** looked nasty. I guess directly attacking the knee is one of those things that's "not illegal but frowned upon."

It's the same issue with football and diving and hitting the knee caps. It's not illegal, but you shouldn't try for it as it can end your career.

**MUFC** · 10-20-2008, 10:16 AM

I think thats a Savate kick. Not sure, but its nothing from MT.

**HardGainer82** · 10-20-2008, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by MUFC

I think thats a Savate kick. Not sure, but its nothing from MT.

It's a teep, bro.

**Errorist** · 10-20-2008, 10:26 AM

I think its a dirty move in a game that has other rules in place. After the match, Jardine said it did hurt and was the same knee hes had surgery on as well.

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