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IronIc is Doing the Scivation Shuffle!
Happy Tuesday all!
I recieved my material from Derek back in JULY; right around the time I discovered a local resource. Fast-forward to some really stressful events at work and a total derailing off of my diet wagon and I found myself back to 200+ lbs and totally depressed over the fact that even though I work out 5-6x a week I can't lose weight AT ALL unless I eat clean, all of the time. I kept Derek's email in my Yahoo and pulled it out, printed it out, and started yesterday  I have yet to send him my numbers because I don't want to step on the scale!  I know that I have to keep track of my progress, though, so I'll step on it tomorrow
I know I need to eat a little more, and track my cals and macros -- I am gently reintroducing myself to journaling the RIGHT way  I started the ATS (chest/back) and jotted down my meals:
#1: 4 oz 95% lean beef, 1 whole egg, 2 egg whites cooked in Pam Olive Oil Spray, 1/2 cup mixed veggies
#2: 3 oz baked salmon, 1/2 cup mixed veggies, 10 raw almonds
#3: 1 cup lowfat cottage cheese, about 1/4 cup salsa, 10 alomonds
#4: 3 oz baked salmon, 1/2 cup mixed veggies, 10 raw almonds
#5: A few sips of VERY OLD chocolate protein powder in water
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Workout:
DB BENT OVER ROW: 2x30'sx10
DB BENCH PRESS: 30'sx10, 35'sx6/30'sx4
I love the weights that can be slung, when the reps go down
WG LAT PULLDOWN: 2x100x6
DB INCLINE BP: 25'sx10, 30'sx10
I felt strong on the inclines
1-ARM DB ROW: 2x25'sx10
This is a little different than what Derek put down, because I worked out at the little gym tonight (at 8:20 pm, lol) and there is less equipment there.
DECLINE FLYES: 2x15'sx10
This is the first time I have ever done a decline movement ... so bizarre
CLOSE-GRIP LAT PULLDOWN: 2x75x10
BENCH DIPS: 2xBWx6
CARDIO: Treadmill
20 minutes LISS
I am doing more cardio than what the program calls for because I NEED IT!  I will overcome!
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10-14-2008, 11:11 AM
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Best of luck to you, Penney!
Subscribed, for sure.
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10-14-2008, 12:50 PM
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CHA CHA CHA-ING
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Yay Penney! Good to see you in here.
I know Derek will work wonders for you! There are a lot of great people in here and the support is fantastic.
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10-14-2008, 12:57 PM
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Good Luck
I'll follow along. Subbed!
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10-14-2008, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by HoosierHardGain
Best of luck to you, Penney!
Subscribed, for sure.
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It wouldn't be a proper journal without you here, Hoos!
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Originally Posted by claycat
Yay Penney! Good to see you in here.
I know Derek will work wonders for you! There are a lot of great people in here and the support is fantastic.
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I noticed that! Great support here.
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Good Luck
I'll follow along. Subbed!
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Hey aftrshok! How are you tonight?
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10-14-2008, 06:36 PM
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Or should it be Kill-Me-O?
45 minutes of spinning ... this is my third time in this class and although I still poop out before the last hill climbs I get a great workout. All my clothes were drenched!
Eats:
#1: 1 whole egg, 2 egg whites, 1 95% lean burger (eggs and burger are so GOOD together)
#2: 1 cup lowfat cottage cheese, 10 almonds, a little salsa
#3: 6 oz chicken, about 1 tbsp salsa, 1/2 cup mixed veggies
#4: 1/2 cup lowfat cottage cheese, 10 almonds, salsa
#5: Post wo smoothie: 2 scoops whey, 10 oz very cold water, ice, 3.5oz frozen blueberries blended in a mixer (oh, it was soooo good!)
I may eat something later, but I am tired, lol
Also, I did the dreaded weigh-in today and yep, I'm up to 205 lbs  Hopefully I can lose 55 lbs fast, and keep them off! How? By not eating what Rick eats! lol
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10-15-2008, 07:47 AM
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Good Eats, Penney!
Off to flying start...I know you'll do great.
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Originally Posted by IronIc
Or should it be Kill-Me-O?
45 minutes of spinning ... this is my third time in this class and although I still poop out before the last hill climbs I get a great workout. All my clothes were drenched!
Eats:
#1: 1 whole egg, 2 egg whites, 1 95% lean burger (eggs and burger are so GOOD together)
#2: 1 cup lowfat cottage cheese, 10 almonds, a little salsa
#3: 6 oz chicken, about 1 tbsp salsa, 1/2 cup mixed veggies
#4: 1/2 cup lowfat cottage cheese, 10 almonds, salsa
#5: Post wo smoothie: 2 scoops whey, 10 oz very cold water, ice, 3.5oz frozen blueberries blended in a mixer (oh, it was soooo good!)
I may eat something later, but I am tired, lol
Also, I did the dreaded weigh-in today and yep, I'm up to 205 lbs  Hopefully I can lose 55 lbs fast, and keep them off! How? By not eating what Rick eats! lol 
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10-15-2008, 07:49 AM
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Lookin good, keep up the hard work.
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10-15-2008, 07:51 AM
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Hi Penney! Glad to see you over here!
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10-15-2008, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by HoosierHardGain
Good Eats, Penney!
Off to flying start...I know you'll do great.
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Thanks sweetie! Your incredible support helps
I need to eat a little more (protein), just a little though. Soon I'll begin to post the calories and macros.
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Lookin good, keep up the hard work.
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Hi Penney! Glad to see you over here!
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Thank you aftershk and Ms Mac  How is it going today?
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Derek's plan calls for HIIT cardio on Thursday and Saturday .. I am doing my HIIT on Tuesday and Thursday because those are the days my schedule allows  Today -- arms!
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10-15-2008, 07:59 AM
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Thank you aftershk and Ms Mac  How is it going today?
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So far so good.
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10-15-2008, 09:32 AM
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Morning Penney, how did you feel after the first day?
I am looking at getting a spinning bike for my Christmas workout present and you can get spin class CD's to do at home.
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10-15-2008, 10:26 AM
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So far so good. 
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Good is great!  I need to swing over to your journal.
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Morning Penney, how did you feel after the first day?
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I feel good! I can tell the bloat is already beginning to go away.
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Originally Posted by claycat
I am looking at getting a spinning bike for my Christmas workout present and you can get spin class CD's to do at home.
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That sounds  I have some cardo DVDs for home; I really enjoy taking classes in the gym, though, because I love the energy from all the other people in there!
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10-15-2008, 11:38 AM
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Thanks sweetie! Your incredible support helps 
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Anytime, Penney!
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10-15-2008, 06:03 PM
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Anytime, Penney!
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Have I told you lately that I wub you?
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10-15-2008, 06:04 PM
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ATS Guns Night
I did alot of exercises that are new to me tonight. Therefore, I am unsure how good or bad my form was!
Barbell Curl: 2x40x10
My wrists were bothering me a little while I did these ... I know it's from the heavy DB work on Monday night. The BB does not tweak my wrists. I need to make a better effort to get to this gym no matter how late I work, so I can do my chest presses with the BB or Smith.
Close Grip BP: 2x50x10
I used the same kind of BB that I used for my curls. I should have probably used the regular BB, lol.
DB Curl: 15'sx10, 20'sx10
I wanted to use the 20's for both sets, but we have just 1 set of 20's and someone else was using them for the 1st set.
Skull Crushers: 2x30x10
This is a new exercise for me. If I have decent DOMS tomorrow or Friday, that should be an indication that I hit my triceps well enough.
Cable Curl: 35x10, 45x10
The first set was way light!
Cable Tricep Pushdown: 45x10, 55x10
I wanted to use the machine, but dangit someone else beat me to it!
BB Wrist Curl: 2x20x10
DB Wrist Curl: 2x10'sx10
Wrist curls are totally new to me. I don't know if I did them right -- I will have to check them here on bb.com. I hope my wrists get stronger or something -- heavier DB's sometimes will irritate them.
Cardio: Treadmill
20 minutes LISS. I would like to go 30, but I'm still recovering from last night's spinning adventure. I will proabably spin tomorrow night as well. Am I sick or what??? lol
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10-15-2008, 06:07 PM
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Wednesday's eats
#1: 1 whole egg, 2 egg whites, 1 95% lean burger
#2: 2 scoops whey in water, 10 almonds
#3: 6 oz chicken, salsa, 1/2 cup mixed veggies
#4: 2 whole eggs, 1 cup Kroger Carb Master yogurt (12 g protein, only 3 g carbs!) And it's yummy! 
#5: 2 scoops whey, cold water, ice, 3.5oz frozen blueberries. Yummy yum yum!
I am going to work on adding the 6th meal ... it is really hard to do so.
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10-16-2008, 08:22 AM
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CHA CHA CHA-ING
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Morning Penney, just checking in on you.
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10-16-2008, 08:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IronIc
#1: 1 whole egg, 2 egg whites, 1 95% lean burger
#2: 2 scoops whey in water, 10 almonds
#3: 6 oz chicken, salsa, 1/2 cup mixed veggies
#4: 2 whole eggs, 1 cup Kroger Carb Master yogurt (12 g protein, only 3 g carbs!) And it's yummy! 
#5: 2 scoops whey, cold water, ice, 3.5oz frozen blueberries. Yummy yum yum!
I am going to work on adding the 6th meal ... it is really hard to do so.
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I did have a 6th meal (while watching the debates, lol) 1 can of chicken w/salsa, 10 peanuts
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Morning Penney, just checking in on you. 
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Good morning, beautiful!
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10-16-2008, 08:34 AM
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I did have a 6th meal (while watching the debates, lol) 1 can of chicken w/salsa, 10 peanuts 
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You mean the debates didn't ruin your appitite?
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10-16-2008, 08:41 AM
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You mean the debates didn't ruin your appitite?
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How are you doing today Penny?
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10-16-2008, 08:42 AM
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You mean the debates didn't ruin your appitite?
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LOL! For some reason I got hungrier!  I might be sick, lol
IMO all politicians are very much alike. I know I definitely don't like McCain or his running mate ... and I am unsure about Obama. I hate the mud-slinging.
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10-16-2008, 08:43 AM
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How are you doing today Penny?
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Hey Brian! I'm doing great! How about you?
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10-16-2008, 08:49 AM
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IMO all politicians are very much alike.
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Without starting a political debate, I'd say Penney, you are 100% spot on!
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10-16-2008, 08:57 AM
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Hey Brian! I'm doing great! How about you? 
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I'll let you know after my 11:30am leg workout today.
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Without starting a political debate, I'd say Penney, you are 100% spot on!
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Birds of a feather flock together! lol
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I'll let you know after my 11:30am leg workout today. 
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I'm looking forward to your post!
I'm spinning later today, lol ... OMG that is so brutal  Tuesday I came home from it, feeling like I worked hard all day! I love it
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Today was cardio day; spinning for 1 hour
Eats:
#1: 1 whole egg, 2 egg whites, 1 95% lean burger, 1/2 cup green beans
#2: 2 scoops whey in water, 10 almonds
#3: 2 whole eggs, 1 Kroger Carb Master yogurt, 1/2 cup green beans
#4: 2 scoops whey, 3.5 oz mixture of frozen strawberries/blueberries, water, ice blended.
#5: (TBE) 5 oz canned chicken, salsa, 1/2 cup green beans, 10-15 peanuts.
I was supposed to have another meal between 3 and 4, but just was not hungry before I went to the gym. Of course, I was ravenous after spinning! Tomorrrow I will try my best to make 6 meals!
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10-17-2008, 07:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IronIc
Today was cardio day; spinning for 1 hour
Eats:
#1: 1 whole egg, 2 egg whites, 1 95% lean burger, 1/2 cup green beans
#2: 2 scoops whey in water, 10 almonds
#3: 2 whole eggs, 1 Kroger Carb Master yogurt, 1/2 cup green beans
#4: 2 scoops whey, 3.5 oz mixture of frozen strawberries/blueberries, water, ice blended.
#5: (TBE) 5 oz canned chicken, salsa, 1/2 cup green beans, 10-15 peanuts.
I was supposed to have another meal between 3 and 4, but just was not hungry before I went to the gym. Of course, I was ravenous after spinning! Tomorrrow I will try my best to make 6 meals! 
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Morning, Penney. Nice job...somedays in life, you do fall short for some reason or the other. Like you said, you'll do it today. You rock!
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10-17-2008, 09:54 AM
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Morning, Penney. Nice job...somedays in life, you do fall short for some reason or the other. Like you said, you'll do it today. You rock!
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It's really tough to get that 6th meal in when I get up later than usual. I am not as hungry on this program (because of the low carbs, lol)
Thanks for the props, sweetie!
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10-17-2008, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by IronIc
It's really tough to get that 6th meal in when I get up later than usual. I am not as hungry on this program (because of the low carbs, lol)
Thanks for the props, sweetie! 
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That's my problem on the weekends, I don't get up at 6:00am I end up sleeping until 8:30am or so.
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