Is there any real benefit or point to supplementing with products such as these if you are not using steroids? I can see the benefits of these products for PCT use, but would they be beneficial to someone who isnt coming off a cycle?
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10-14-2008, 05:54 AM #1Registered User
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estrogen blockers and free test enhancers
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10-14-2008, 06:12 AM #2Self Rep.
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Increased free testosterone means more test is free to enter cells in order to effect its biological actions by binding to androgen receptors. So yes it is benificial to use a product that increases free test. IMO, Divanil has been shown to be the most effective at doing so.
Estogen blockers on the other hand, I would save for PCT.
Just my 2 cents.Last edited by Roun3er; 10-14-2008 at 06:15 AM.
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10-14-2008, 06:21 AM #3Registered User
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Divanil? can you get that in canada? is it similar to 6 oxo?
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10-14-2008, 06:35 AM #4Gits Teh Squirtz
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two of the most popular test boosters out there right now contain divanil as a main ingredient
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I hear stellar reviews of them both, and am currently on a Mass Fx/6 oxo stack
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10-14-2008, 06:37 AM #5Gettin' Big Now...
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Reversitol is a fun mix of an estrogen blocker(2 ai's) + a some natural test boosters(TR + LJ) and I3C for additional estrogen support.
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10-14-2008, 06:46 AM #6Registered User
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There would be a noticeable difference using these ingredients outside of PCT, by increasing total and free circulating androgen levels in a normal, non-prohormone/steroid suppressed endocrine system.Originally Posted by popofoso
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10-15-2008, 10:07 AM #7Registered User
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thanks for the info guys , ill have to look into some of these products
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10-15-2008, 10:27 AM #8Registered User
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the longer you use 6 OXO the better.
Another way to control T levels is to decrease stress levels & keep Cortisol at bay. Many people forget about doing the basics to help keep Cortisol under control. Simple things like incresing water intake, sleeping 7-9 hours, eating a clean diet, etc... Very simple concepts yet very hard to implement by most.
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10-17-2008, 03:01 PM #9Registered User
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[QUOTE=labradarep;232510311]the longer you use 6 OXO the better.
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why is this? I know it frees up test, but ive read reports posted on this site that claim it has no anabolic effect? What makes this so effective? and is there much of a difference between 6oxo and 11oxo?patience and small steps
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10-17-2008, 03:06 PM #10Fart in her mouth
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I personally love ATD such as Inhibit-E while cutting.
6OXO was also great."The worst thing I could be is just like everyone else."- Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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10-17-2008, 03:10 PM #112011 NPC Eastern USA's
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AI's plus test boosters, plus freeing up bound test all work great. Some products on the market boost test from all of these angles to really maximize your results.
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10-18-2008, 04:37 AM #12Registered User
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mass fx es has an AI in it already probably dont need to stack it with one unless you are very prone to estrogen developement
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10-18-2008, 05:31 AM #13Registered User
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[QUOTE=popofoso;233520881]
6 OXO works by tricking the brain. So from what I understand it helps reuce/stop the negative feedback in the HPT axis. Thus allowing more free test to stick around or be produced.Originally Posted by labradarep
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10-18-2008, 05:37 AM #14Is that all you take ?Originally Posted by Wisdom15
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10-18-2008, 06:29 AM #15Geordie Boot Boy
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Mild estrogen reduction seems to "correct" a lot of things in me. I feel like i may have higher estrogen levels than the norm. Which would explain why i always cry at the end of Beauty and the Beast -- moreso because the prince is badass as a beast and a total *** as a human.Originally Posted by popofoso
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10-18-2008, 07:03 AM #16Registered User
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It does, but it never hurts to add an AI in there for some test boosting potential.Originally Posted by Big_Jewels
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10-18-2008, 05:20 PM #17Registered User
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I think im going to try mass fx and 6oxo together next month when I start my heavy training. We'll see how it goes!
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10-18-2008, 05:43 PM #18Registered User
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6-oxo is just an AI right?? No need for pct or cycle support while on it correct?
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10-18-2008, 05:56 PM #19Registered User
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correct. I've heard people using it as part of their PCT combined with other things of course. thats why i was curious about its usefulness when not using it as part of PCT.Originally Posted by awohlers
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