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    Best pre-workout formula for FOCUS and STRENGTH

    Just on the basic of focus and strength, what is the best pre-workout formula? I've tried nano vapor, no explode, and superpump 250. nano vapor worked great for 2 or 3 weeks then completely stopped doing anything except making me sick. NO explode's effects diminished as well. Superpump seems to be the best so far, but would like more energy/focus.
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    Originally Posted by mtbolden View Post
    Just on the basic of focus and strength, what is the best pre-workout formula? I've tried nano vapor, no explode, and superpump 250. nano vapor worked great for 2 or 3 weeks then completely stopped doing anything except making me sick. NO explode's effects diminished as well. Superpump seems to be the best so far, but would like more energy/focus.
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    Originally Posted by TAWS6 View Post
    white flood
    This.

    or focus Xt once it comes back out
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    caffeine, just increase your dosage up to 400mg as your tolerance increases then cycle off it for a few weeks and start taking it again.
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    clear shot, velocity xt , core zap

    i really enjoyed products with germanium oil. it hit you more intensely than a caffine product IMO
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    Shock Therapy/Vasocharge/White Flood.
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    Originally Posted by TAWS6 View Post
    white flood
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    This.

    or focus Xt once it comes back out
    FLOOD RULES!!!!!
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    Originally Posted by t_bazzer07 View Post
    clear shot, velocity xt , core zap

    i really enjoyed products with germanium oil. it hit you more intensely than a caffine product IMO
    Yea, anything with 1,3, Dimethyl or germanium oil is the sh*t...clear shot is truly f-ing good though.
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    my new one?

    1 scoop white flood
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    Core Zap is incredible for focus in the gym. It comes with a nice energy boost, but for me the real kicker is the insane focus I get from it. With geranium and sulbutiamine, its not hard to see why.
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    Steve, how much PEA pre-workout do you recommend?
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    If you want a product without bucket loads of caffeine, no prop blends, and no kitchen sink list of ingredients, I would recommend MAN Sports BodyOctane.

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    Originally Posted by TAWS6 View Post
    white flood
    ^^^^
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    Honestly I'd wait for Omega Sports Ultima to come out (thunder v2)
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    I am not sure how PEA or White Flood will lead to strength gains really. The focus might be good though.

    For an increase in strength you will most likely want something with creatine...Flood does have a small dose of Beta Alanine in it, so as long as you are dosing with 3-4 grams BA more than flood is could potentially lead to some strength gains.

    My recommendation would be Ragnarok or Cryoshock, as both are fairly completely formulas. Cryoshock gives great focus, but overall I believe Ragnarok is the better product.
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    Seriously all the Flood gives in energy no strength gains, the best is RAGNAROK HANDS DOWNNNN
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    The best two for strength in my opinion are Beverly International Up-Lift and Bulldozer XL5000 from Neuro Research Group. Both do not use proprietary blends, high quality and clean products. I also tried NOW PRO-GH as a night time formula and it works great with either one. Up-Life is Creatine Free, while Bulldozer uses CreaPure.
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