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    Ok I been on keto for 6 weeks now and first few weeks were awesome. Dropped weight (mainly water weight) like crazy. Then came my first carb up after 2 weeks. weight came back up but noticed mirror change, so i figured i lost fat. Now i weigh the same as i started but def more define but the fat in my mid section stayed the same. I am taking around 20-25g carbs per day with total of 2200-2300cal per day. That is -500cal deficient for me. It seems I have stalled and what would be the reason for this? I do cardio after my workout, and train 3/week heavy. I carb up every week for 24hrs.
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    I am curious as to what kind of keto foods you are eating. I have a feeling that they are chemical laced foods mostly.

    I stalled on keto this spring and went to another program. called the Warrior Diet.

    I found out that on keto I was eating packaged keto foods with ingredients that I couldn't pronounce listed on the side of the food label. These are chemicals added to foods by companies to make the food last longer and taste better mimic the female hormone estrogen in the body and lead to fat gain and more and more problems.
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    Originally Posted by Bo DeLone View Post
    I am curious as to what kind of keto foods you are eating. I have a feeling that they are chemical laced foods mostly.

    I stalled on keto this spring and went to another program. called the Warrior Diet.

    I found out that on keto I was eating packaged keto foods with ingredients that I couldn't pronounce listed on the side of the food label. These are chemicals added to foods by companies to make the food last longer and taste better mimic the female hormone estrogen in the body and lead to fat gain and more and more problems.
    Warrior Diet? Is it the one big meal a day? If it is, then it is similar to IF.
    IF is basicly when you fast during the day. You fast from 9pm to 1pm the next day. You eat your keto meals from 1pm to 9pm. That helped me lose body fat when regular keto alone did not work for me. I would say I ate just like the original poster but did not lose so I decided to try IF.
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    Originally Posted by yujin0099 View Post
    Ok I been on keto for 6 weeks now and first few weeks were awesome. Dropped weight (mainly water weight) like crazy. Then came my first carb up after 2 weeks. weight came back up but noticed mirror change, so i figured i lost fat. Now i weigh the same as i started but def more define but the fat in my mid section stayed the same. I am taking around 20-25g carbs per day with total of 2200-2300cal per day. That is -500cal deficient for me. It seems I have stalled and what would be the reason for this? I do cardio after my workout, and train 3/week heavy. I carb up every week for 24hrs.
    If you taking in 2200-2300 cals a day, that is your reason. Personally I only take in 1600-1700. Now if you have a very active job, then I could believe that. You might want to look into that.

    Also, I find skipping breakfast accelerates my weight loss.
    Keto:

    Started 9/22/08- 151.8 / 14.2% bf
    09/26/08 - 151.0 / 13.0% bf
    10/03/08 - 147.2 / 10.2% bf
    10/10/08 - 144.4 / 11.2% bf (hmm, same scale and BEI..)
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    Maybe 2200 calories a day WAS a calorie deficit on your old diet, but it's not anymore. If it was, you'd be losing weight. So reduce your calories.

    If you're eating that much because you're hungry, that probably means you don't have enough fat in your diet. Are you getting at least 65% of your calories from fat? Why not try 70% or 75%?
    ***Don't make keto dieting so damned complicated. At least 65% of calories from fat. No more than 25g of carbs per day. Eat when you're hungry. Stop when you're no longer hungry. End of story.***
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    Originally Posted by castro1688 View Post
    If you taking in 2200-2300 cals a day, that is your reason. Personally I only take in 1600-1700. Now if you have a very active job, then I could believe that. You might want to look into that.

    Also, I find skipping breakfast accelerates my weight loss.
    hey weighs 50 more pounds than you man...

    I think you should keep your calories where they are. Monitor your carbs up and make sure you are not over doing them. In my opinion that is usually the culprit. Maybe go 2 weeks before the next one
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    Originally Posted by mar999 View Post
    hey weighs 50 more pounds than you man...

    I think you should keep your calories where they are. Monitor your carbs up and make sure you are not over doing them. In my opinion that is usually the culprit. Maybe go 2 weeks before the next one
    But if he's stalled then maybe its time to lower it down some.
    Keto:

    Started 9/22/08- 151.8 / 14.2% bf
    09/26/08 - 151.0 / 13.0% bf
    10/03/08 - 147.2 / 10.2% bf
    10/10/08 - 144.4 / 11.2% bf (hmm, same scale and BEI..)
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    Originally Posted by Hasshman View Post
    Warrior Diet? Is it the one big meal a day? If it is, then it is similar to IF.
    IF is basicly when you fast during the day. You fast from 9pm to 1pm the next day. You eat your keto meals from 1pm to 9pm. That helped me lose body fat when regular keto alone did not work for me. I would say I ate just like the original poster but did not lose so I decided to try IF.
    Yeah the Warrior Diet is similar to IF. I agree with you on fasting or undereating phases to lose weight.

    I was doing keto for months early this year and my keto fat loss stalled out and I went into the Warrior Diet (alternating low carb and high carb nights) and this really was the best way to eat and live IMO. This all went down in my bodyblog this spring and I really believe in Ori Hofmekler's books and radio show.
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    Originally Posted by startrek View Post
    Maybe 2200 calories a day WAS a calorie deficit on your old diet, but it's not anymore. If it was, you'd be losing weight. So reduce your calories.

    If you're eating that much because you're hungry, that probably means you don't have enough fat in your diet. Are you getting at least 65% of your calories from fat? Why not try 70% or 75%?
    Right.

    The body will adapt to any set caloric intake eventually at which time you either drop calories or increase cardio (preferred) to keep fat loss coming.
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    thanks for the replies

    more cardio? ill try that

    my weight is similar to when i started minus few fat + some muscles. so i thought keeping cals similar was fine.

    my days goes like this

    Breakfast: 5 eggs, 45g mayo - 270cal + 300cal = 570cal

    Lunch: Beef patty with broccoli- 300-350cal

    Meal 3 - Beef patty - 300cal

    Meal 4 - 1/2 sausage or 1/2 beef - 150-200cal

    Meal 5 - other half 150cal

    Meal 6- Cottage Cheese with 42g peanut butter - 320cal

    thats comes to 1800-1900...sometimes i have the keto cheese cake which is 200cal

    so actually i was consuming less then i thought...workout 3/week with cardio after each workout. heart rate 120-130 burning around 250-300cal for 20-25min
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    That's a pretty good-looking keto diet, IMO. Just cut down on calories and/or increase the cardio a bit, and you're there.
    ***Don't make keto dieting so damned complicated. At least 65% of calories from fat. No more than 25g of carbs per day. Eat when you're hungry. Stop when you're no longer hungry. End of story.***
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    Originally Posted by yujin0099 View Post
    thanks for the replies

    more cardio? ill try that

    my weight is similar to when i started minus few fat + some muscles. so i thought keeping cals similar was fine.

    my days goes like this

    Breakfast: 5 eggs, 45g mayo - 270cal + 300cal = 570cal

    Lunch: Beef patty with broccoli- 300-350cal

    Meal 3 - Beef patty - 300cal

    Meal 4 - 1/2 sausage or 1/2 beef - 150-200cal

    Meal 5 - other half 150cal

    Meal 6- Cottage Cheese with 42g peanut butter - 320cal

    thats comes to 1800-1900...sometimes i have the keto cheese cake which is 200cal

    so actually i was consuming less then i thought...workout 3/week with cardio after each workout. heart rate 120-130 burning around 250-300cal for 20-25min
    Your body may not be on keto state. Your fat intake is very low... As i see your diet contains somewhere around 50% calories from fat.. You might wanna change that. Go for 65-70% fat, lower the protein calorie..
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    Originally Posted by castro1688 View Post
    If you taking in 2200-2300 cals a day, that is your reason. Personally I only take in 1600-1700. Now if you have a very active job, then I could believe that. You might want to look into that.

    Also, I find skipping breakfast accelerates my weight loss.
    qft i dont eat untill 12pm and it works out great. ive been seeing huge changes and i love it. my 2weeks was this weekend but im going home next weekend so ill save my carb-up for then
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    Originally Posted by hardgainer786 View Post
    Your body may not be on keto state. Your fat intake is very low... As i see your diet contains somewhere around 50% calories from fat.. You might wanna change that. Go for 65-70% fat, lower the protein calorie..
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    im sure im getting enough fats...i beleive its around 180-190g. and protein being 160-170g.
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    Originally Posted by castro1688 View Post
    If you taking in 2200-2300 cals a day, that is your reason. Personally I only take in 1600-1700. Now if you have a very active job, then I could believe that. You might want to look into that.

    Also, I find skipping breakfast accelerates my weight loss.
    yip, for sure, calories are too high and I am am questioning whether or not he is 210lbs as stated in his profile.

    2000cals max would be ideal but I bet there are some serious non-keto foods in his diet.
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    i dam definitely around 210...am around 18-20% BF and i posted what i eat everyday. there is non keto food in my diet. i calculated my daily cals which was 2800 so i subtracted 400 so i was aiming for 2400 cal per day.
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    Originally Posted by yujin0099 View Post
    i dam definitely around 210...am around 18-20% BF and i posted what i eat everyday. there is non keto food in my diet. i calculated my daily cals which was 2800 so i subtracted 400 so i was aiming for 2400 cal per day.
    still too high, go for 2000cals maximum. I only consume 2000cals and I am a lot heavier than you are with the same bf%.
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