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    Starving yourself to lose weight.

    So many have tried it and let's not be ignorant most people DID lose weight. I know a few people personally who looked a lot thinner and when i asked them how they lost the weight, they simply said, I just stopped eating, or I ate only one meal a day.

    This method being unhealthy aside, it's suggested not to use this tactic because we will not lose weight, but we might put on weight since our body will keep on to the fat for survival purposes. Plus metabolism will slow down completely which will cause weight gain.

    If that's the case, why did these people succeed in losing weight? Or do I just have the wrong idea about this?
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    If you starve yourself, you will lose fat... Anyone who says anything different is a moron. Anyone who says your metabolism drops anything significant is also a moron.
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    Originally Posted by sonicstabber View Post
    So many have tried it and let's not be ignorant most people DID lose weight. I know a few people personally who looked a lot thinner and when i asked them how they lost the weight, they simply said, I just stopped eating, or I ate only one meal a day.

    This method being unhealthy aside, it's suggested not to use this tactic because we will not lose weight, but we might put on weight since our body will keep on to the fat for survival purposes. Plus metabolism will slow down completely which will cause weight gain.

    If that's the case, why did these people succeed in losing weight? Or do I just have the wrong idea about this?
    Yes, you will lose weight by using this method. However, it is harder for them to keep it off. I mean, what are they gonna do, stop eating for the rest of their life? Or just eat one meal a day for the rest of their life? No, they'll stop at some point, go back to old overeating habits, and end up putting on more weight than what they began with.
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    if your metabolism slows you wont gain weight you will probably just feel slower and more tired but you dont gain weight. you can definately lose weight but why would you gain weight if you're starving? you're not eating anything
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    Originally Posted by pats55583 View Post
    Yes, you will lose weight by using this method. However, it is harder for them to keep it off. I mean, what are they gonna do, stop eating for the rest of their life? Or just eat one meal a day for the rest of their life? No, they'll stop at some point, go back to old overeating habits, and end up putting on more weight than what they began with.
    It's not true that "everyone" goes back to their old eating habits. You can reduce your cal intake to a very low number; then when you reach your goal many people just begin to eat healthy low fat foods and do start a new eating lifestyle. Working out a little and consuming mostly protein during this phase of dieting can also help you maintain muscle.

    I should add that it does take a great deal of self discipline.
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    Back when I was in high school (almost 10 years ago) I would have a football coach telling me to gain as much weight as I could...and I would. I would eat sickening amounts of food...I would stop at McDonald's on the way home, eat a sick amount...and then go home and eat dinner.

    Then wrestling would start and my coach would be screaming at me to lose as much weight as possible. I would completely starve myself....eat only one very small meal a day. Starving yourself does work in losing weight...I would drop from 230's under 189lbs in now time at all.

    That being said...starving yourself really would mess with my body. I would go on uncontrolable eating binges the second wrestling season was over...and put on 20lbs of fat in the blink of an eye. You will lose weight fast by starving yourself...but its impossible to live like that for more than a few months at a time...
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    Originally Posted by -Aaron- View Post
    If you starve yourself, you will lose fat... Anyone who says anything different is a moron. Anyone who says your metabolism drops anything significant is also a moron.
    Lol what? are you saying that metabolism doesn't slow down if you're in starvation mode for a long time?
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    Originally Posted by Makaveli0 View Post
    Lol what? are you saying that metabolism doesn't slow down if you're in starvation mode for a long time?
    Did you read what I wrote? Apparently not.

    I said it doesn't to the degree (anything significant I believe I said) that people make it out to be.
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    Sure there may be SOME people that can starve for a period and then eat normally afterwards, but there are SOME people who could jump out of a 20th story window and survive the fall. That doesn't mean everyone should go take a flying leap off of the Doubletree. I think it's safe to say that most, but not all people who use starvation will end up binging and undoing the benefits of the Starvin' Marvin diet.
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    I initially starved myself more or less to lose weight. I wouldn't say I starved myself, because I was actually never really that hungry. Apple for breakfast, small home made turkey pita for lunch and a grilled chicken breast/green beans for dinner. This only lead to a healthier lifestyle of working out, etc.
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    Originally Posted by sonicstabber View Post
    So many have tried it and let's not be ignorant most people DID lose weight. I know a few people personally who looked a lot thinner and when i asked them how they lost the weight, they simply said, I just stopped eating, or I ate only one meal a day.

    This method being unhealthy aside, it's suggested not to use this tactic because we will not lose weight, but we might put on weight since our body will keep on to the fat for survival purposes. Plus metabolism will slow down completely which will cause weight gain.

    If that's the case, why did these people succeed in losing weight? Or do I just have the wrong idea about this?
    Its hard on the body and not recommended. You will also lose lean muscle tissue. Which will lower you resting metabolic rate(RMR) further. if you dont eat correctly and exercise after starving yourself, you will gain all the weight back easily. Plus more weight on top of that because of your now even lower RMR.
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    Your metabolism doesn't slow so much that your body quits needing energy when you starve yourself. When you quit eating your body will look to your body tissue, any body tissue (including organ tissue), to satisfy it's energy and nutritional needs. Just like with your personal finances, you can "rob Peter to pay Paul" for a while, but eventually everything will collapse if you don't come up with a real solution (not eating isn't a real solution any more than using credit cards to pay for your living expenses is).

    So far as the slowing of metabolism you hear about goes, it takes repeating the process a few times before the metabolism slows to frustrating proportions. When you starve yourself, your body releases hormones that encourage fat storage and muscle wasting. Most people who diet don't do anything to regain the muscle they lost (or avoid losing it in the first place) so over the years their metabolism slows simply because a lot of the weight they lose is lean, energy expensive tissue (body tissue that makes you HAVE to eat more to maintain it). If they don't bother to rebuild that, when they gain back to the same weight they were before they started their diet, their body composition is more fat than muscle. Repeat the cycle from year to year as most people do and it's no wonder people "weigh about the same as they did in high school" but look like crap in comparison or "can't eat the way they used to" without gaining lots of weight.
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    I've a friend that did it. He only ate one meal a day, he reduced his calorie intake to a few hundred calories a day.


    He got a six pack really really fast. Since then he's gone back to eating regularly, however, he still has the six pack. His bodyfat went up noticeably, but he stayed fairly ripped.


    He did exercise regularly and did a CRAPLOAD of cardio. He did put on a NOTICEABLE amount of lean muscle mass doing this.



    He went from 5'9 179lbs fatass to 5'9 155lbs lean/ripped in 2 or 3 months.

    Perhaps he just had good genetics though. I doubt if most people could pull it off.
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    Rusian Roulette... The after effects and dangers are not worth risking. I know a couple people that have done this. 1 had kidney failure, 1 went on uncontrollable binges and a couple of them it worked for. However, they all had virtually no energy to live their lives. They always felt sick and tired. Too much risk and pain to save a couple months in my opinion...
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    I think the word starving" is subjectable. Starving is near eating nothing. One small meal a day is unncessary, but eating 4 very small meals will do the trick, like:
    4 hard boiled eggs, just 2 yolks
    piece of chicken w/ piece of fruit
    small salad
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    Some may call this starvation and affecting your metabolism, but I'm on the side that says it will not cause either; nor will your body start using organ tissue. You would have to be eating next to nothing for your body to start using your organ tissue.
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    Originally Posted by raisethescore View Post
    I think the word starving" is subjectable. Starving is near eating nothing. One small meal a day is unncessary, but eating 4 very small meals will do the trick, like:
    4 hard boiled eggs, just 2 yolks
    piece of chicken w/ piece of fruit
    small salad
    fish and broccoli

    Some may call this starvation and affecting your metabolism, but I'm on the side that says it will not cause either; nor will your body start using organ tissue. You would have to be eating next to nothing for your body to start using your organ tissue.
    Actually, starving is lack of food intake over an extended period of time... Usually around 48 hours.
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    Originally Posted by -Aaron- View Post
    If you starve yourself, you will lose fat... Anyone who says anything different is a moron. Anyone who says your metabolism drops anything significant is also a moron.
    This is true. I can't stand it when people tell me they only eat like 500 kcals a day, and they can't lose weight cause their metabolism is too slow.

    Originally Posted by pats55583 View Post
    Yes, you will lose weight by using this method. However, it is harder for them to keep it off. I mean, what are they gonna do, stop eating for the rest of their life? Or just eat one meal a day for the rest of their life? No, they'll stop at some point, go back to old overeating habits, and end up putting on more weight than what they began with.
    No. I have done this for years. When I "cut", it's simply 4-10 days of modified fasting.

    Originally Posted by raisethescore View Post
    It's not true that "everyone" goes back to their old eating habits. You can reduce your cal intake to a very low number; then when you reach your goal many people just begin to eat healthy low fat foods and do start a new eating lifestyle. Working out a little and consuming mostly protein during this phase of dieting can also help you maintain muscle.

    I should add that it does take a great deal of self discipline.
    Yes.

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    Lol what? are you saying that metabolism doesn't slow down if you're in starvation mode for a long time?
    That's what we are saying. It will slow noticably after a longer period of time, but not to the point where you don't lose weight, and there is no need to fast for a very long a period of time.


    Originally Posted by Primol View Post
    Its hard on the body and not recommended. You will also lose lean muscle tissue. Which will lower you resting metabolic rate(RMR) further. if you dont eat correctly and exercise after starving yourself, you will gain all the weight back easily. Plus more weight on top of that because of your now even lower RMR.

    This really depends on how long you are fasting for. I am doing a modified fast right now. I'm pretty sure I'll be fine.
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    Its a short term solution to a long term problem. You'll experience weight loss, muscle loss, fatigue, a slower metabolism and later on in life you can have the joy of having failing kidneys, liver and a number of other health problems related to starving your body. There are no shortcuts, just lazy peole willing to put their lifelong health at risk to shed a few pounds quickly with little to know work.
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    whatever happened to good ole exercise, proper daily diet and cardio for weight loss? everyone likes to do everything but the way thats healthy.
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    This is a terrible method for losing weight and can cause alot more problems then good. A buddy of mine's father who was about 100lbs over-weight and sick with himself woke up one day about 2 years ago and told himself he doesn't care what happens he is STARVING HIMSELF to lose weight.

    He did exactly what he said...he ate maybe a few hundred calories here and there and lost the 100LBS. GREAT NEWS, RIGHT? WRONG. I saw his father...nice guy but here is the first thing...he has loose skin up the ass....I mean even my big ass at 280 looked a hell of a lot better then this dude losing 100lbs and looking slim with his shirt on. That skin wasn't loose..it was loose was water.

    Even worse for him....my buddy just told me that he has a pretty significant heart issue right now and the doctor attributes it to his starvation as he lost a lot of muscle tissue AROUND HIS HEART!

    For those who say you will lose fat and you're stupid if you think otherwise....that's just a totally ignorant comment as I think any DIET you will lose FAT.....the question is to what extent will it hurt you.

    I have read low-carb diets and studies which were conducted over years like Atkins and all the results come back positive for fat loss and lower blood pressure. Basically, even on a low carb diet for YEARS people have improved levels of fat loss and blood pressure so why anyone would want to starve themselves when they can simply eat larger portions of food and still lose regularly is beyond me.

    I'd imagine for the people who lost 20 or so pounds, the effects occurred much quicker and there was far much less weight loss to cause a significant effect then there would be for something who has a lot of weight to lose....screwing around with your heart is just ridiculous....I hope my friends father is ok..he is a good guy.
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    i have nothing against starving yourself, to oblivion IF you can still exercise, go to the gym a blast the iron, balls to the wall, now if you sit on your butt, or just do cardio like a hamster on crack, then you have a recipe for disaster(muscle wise), i certainly thing that all that starvation mode/metabolism crash phobia is BS, human body is a survival machine , is not going to kill ya

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    The thing is it can work the other way around too. I upped my cals and carbs because I guess I was "under eating" what i should be eating on a cut, but since then I've been losing more weight. I'm not 100% sure that is true, but from my current experience after upping my cals and carbs i've been losing more weight and looking leaner..
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    Originally Posted by rehughe View Post
    Back when I was in high school (almost 10 years ago) I would have a football coach telling me to gain as much weight as I could...and I would. I would eat sickening amounts of food...I would stop at McDonald's on the way home, eat a sick amount...and then go home and eat dinner.

    Then wrestling would start and my coach would be screaming at me to lose as much weight as possible. I would completely starve myself....eat only one very small meal a day. Starving yourself does work in losing weight...I would drop from 230's under 189lbs in now time at all.

    That being said...starving yourself really would mess with my body. I would go on uncontrolable eating binges the second wrestling season was over...and put on 20lbs of fat in the blink of an eye. You will lose weight fast by starving yourself...but its impossible to live like that for more than a few months at a time...
    as a freshman i was cutting weight for wrestling and i had no clue what i was doing. I drank only 1 cup of milk per day, for about 4 days.

    I am still feeling the ramifications of that completely mind-fu**. it screws your body up, and it screws you up mentally. I attribute all of my binging attitudes to that.

    and plus, it's much harder to eat a balanced meal, and restrain yourself from stuffing your face and doing so for the long-term.

    To starve yourself for a few days, quick fix takes no willpower at all. It's easy when the temptation is entirely gone, and you can see the light at the end of the tunnel as you are prepared to binge. Where's the virtue in that?
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    Originally Posted by pinchharmonic View Post
    as a freshman i was cutting weight for wrestling and i had no clue what i was doing. I drank only 1 cup of milk per day, for about 4 days.

    I am still feeling the ramifications of that completely mind-fu**. it screws your body up, and it screws you up mentally. I attribute all of my binging attitudes to that.

    and plus, it's much harder to eat a balanced meal, and restrain yourself from stuffing your face and doing so for the long-term.

    To starve yourself for a few days, quick fix takes no willpower at all. It's easy when the temptation is entirely gone, and you can see the light at the end of the tunnel as you are prepared to binge. Where's the virtue in that?
    I def know what u mean by the binging part....its like your mind always has it in the back of your mind saying..maybe we should get some more now because he starved me before...
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    Not advisable

    Its not advisable to starve in order to reduce the weight... actually it creats more problems as the person may go anaemic and have side effects..

    Its alwasys better to follow the workout regime and control your diet rather than starving.
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    The advice I always get from people in the know is not to think of it as a 'diet' but as a 'lifestyle'. The problem with fasting is you are not developing good eating habits. It's those good habits that will keep the weight off.
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    Originally Posted by sonicstabber View Post
    So many have tried it and let's not be ignorant most people DID lose weight. I know a few people personally who looked a lot thinner and when i asked them how they lost the weight, they simply said, I just stopped eating, or I ate only one meal a day.

    This method being unhealthy aside, it's suggested not to use this tactic because we will not lose weight, but we might put on weight since our body will keep on to the fat for survival purposes. Plus metabolism will slow down completely which will cause weight gain.

    If that's the case, why did these people succeed in losing weight? Or do I just have the wrong idea about this?
    PSMF (protein sparing modified fast) has been used by doctors for 30 years to achieve fast fat loss with little chance of serious side effects. It has had lots of research.


    Its <1000 calories, often <800 calories.

    The commercial product Optifast does the same thing http://www.optifast.com.au/

    Lyle McDonald talks about something similar "The Rapid Fat Loss Handbook"
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    starving myself just leads to binging. i can be really strict for a couple of day then not give a **** what and how much food i put in my mouth for 3 days. its very mentally challanging for me.
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    starving yourself

    No you don't have it wrong, yes starving yourself would make you lose weight, however only if done long enough. If you don't eat for say 48 hours then eat your 3 full meals then don't eat again, your body goes into survival mode. Insted of storing the things it needs and disposing the things it doesn't, it stores everything and turns it into fat. By doing this, the body is preparing itself for the worst (not getting food for a while again), Hence it being called "survival mode". However, if you eat like an apple and a carrot and that it for days on end you would lose weight. However not giving your body the necessary nutrients it desires, it's basically running on empty. you would feel very lathargic and tired. Motivation would be a struggle and you would no doubt feel sick all the time which would then make you cranky. Basically, yes if you starved yourself long enough you would lose weight.
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    Originally Posted by livingthelife23 View Post
    No you don't have it wrong, yes starving yourself would make you lose weight, however only if done long enough. If you don't eat for say 48 hours then eat your 3 full meals then don't eat again, your body goes into survival mode. Insted of storing the things it needs and disposing the things it doesn't, it stores everything and turns it into fat. By doing this, the body is preparing itself for the worst (not getting food for a while again), Hence it being called "survival mode". However, if you eat like an apple and a carrot and that it for days on end you would lose weight. However not giving your body the necessary nutrients it desires, it's basically running on empty. you would feel very lathargic and tired. Motivation would be a struggle and you would no doubt feel sick all the time which would then make you cranky. Basically, yes if you starved yourself long enough you would lose weight.
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