is my trainer wrong?

jaycore · 10-07-2008, 01:49 PM

my goal is to build mass, but my trainer has me doin 12 x 4,
i thought for mass you want to be doin 4 x 8 and heavier weight.
i mentioned it to a few people in bb nutrition shops and they said 8 x 4.

my trainer said he got the program from an american trainer who designed programs for actors to put on mass for roles,

what should i be doin?

Zackla · 10-07-2008, 01:50 PM

Nutrition creates mass.

br1an1127 · 10-07-2008, 01:50 PM

yea...sounds like more of an endurance workout to me

TheIronOwl · 10-07-2008, 01:57 PM

You can still put on mass with 4x12. Eventually you may need to decrease the reps to continue to though.

jaycore · 10-07-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheIronOwl

You can still put on mass with 4x12. Eventually you may need to decrease the reps to continue to though.

thats where im at now

vandamfan · 10-07-2008, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jaycore

my goal is to build mass, but my trainer has me doin 12 x 4,
i thought for mass you want to be doin 4 x 8 and heavier weight.
i mentioned it to a few people in bb nutrition shops and they said 8 x 4.

my trainer said he got the program from an american trainer who designed programs for actors to put on mass for roles,

what should i be doin?

Yeah it is nutrition and recuperation that builds muscle workout is stimulation,and therfore you DO NOT have to go super heavy I think it is a waste!

bad tripp · 10-07-2008, 02:19 PM

everyone can argue all day at which rep range builds mass best. theres no one right or wrong way to do things, (within reason) find out what works for you

RepHeavy · 10-07-2008, 02:22 PM

I thought it was anywhere BETWEEN 8 and 12 for mass, so you are in range..

vandamfan · 10-07-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bad tripp

everyone can argue all day at which rep range builds mass best. theres no one right or wrong way to do things, (within reason) find out what works for you

SEE! SEE! SEE! this guy is right!Not everything is true for everyone!

jaycore · 10-07-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by vandamfan

Yeah it is nutrition and recuperation that builds muscle workout is stimulation,and therfore you DO NOT have to go super heavy I think it is a waste!

well my diet is fine for building muscle

MMIS90 · 10-07-2008, 02:25 PM

yeah ive read 8-12 reps for mass... diffrent reps works for diffrent people

artm · 10-07-2008, 02:25 PM

do 3-4 sets of 8-12 reps

vandamfan · 10-07-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jaycore

well my diet is fine for building muscle

Then just worry about stimulating the muscles and rest and you should be fine!

Oh isten to your trainer,everyone seems to be against trainers even thogh they (usually) know more than the average person

schulerdoish · 10-07-2008, 02:31 PM

You are 5 9, 155. You haven't plateaued yet. 12 will still work for you, just up the weight.

jaycore · 10-07-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by schulerdoish

You are 5 9, 155. You haven't plateaued yet. 12 will still work for you, just up the weight.

im actually 163 now, boxing kept me thin.

yoj · 10-07-2008, 02:43 PM

Your rep range is like 1% of the equation to gaining mass. Your split, exercise choice and such is another 4%. Guess what the 95% is?

EATING

Seriously your nitpicking on the dumbest crap ever. Who gives a **** what rep range you use? As long as its the heaviest weight you can manage for those reps then you are overloading and cause stimulus for growth. Sure, doing only singles or only 20+ reps is stupid, but use your brain. Its the same crap as those people who want to focus on "upper inner chest". Sure, you MIGHT be able to make a TINY difference based on exercise choice. But how bout eating some god damn food instead?

Wudaddy · 10-07-2008, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by yoj

Your rep range is like 1% of the equation to gaining mass. Your split, exercise choice and such is another 4%. Guess what the 95% is?

EATING

Seriously your nitpicking on the dumbest crap ever. Who gives a **** what rep range you use? As long as its the heaviest weight you can manage for those reps then you are overloading and cause stimulus for growth. Sure, doing only singles or only 20+ reps is stupid, but use your brain. Its the same crap as those people who want to focus on "upper inner chest". Sure, you MIGHT be able to make a TINY difference based on exercise choice. But how bout eating some god damn food instead?

He mad

Jimmaling · 10-07-2008, 02:50 PM

pyramid sets ftw!

jaycore · 10-07-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by yoj

Your rep range is like 1% of the equation to gaining mass. Your split, exercise choice and such is another 4%. Guess what the 95% is?

EATING

Seriously your nitpicking on the dumbest crap ever. Who gives a **** what rep range you use? As long as its the heaviest weight you can manage for those reps then you are overloading and cause stimulus for growth. Sure, doing only singles or only 20+ reps is stupid, but use your brain. Its the same crap as those people who want to focus on "upper inner chest". Sure, you MIGHT be able to make a TINY difference based on exercise choice. But how bout eating some god damn food instead?

i actually right and a good amount, maybe your ****tardedness missed my last post ...

BOXING KEPT ME THIN!

yoj · 10-07-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jaycore

i actually right and a good amount, maybe your ****tardedness missed my last post ...

BOXING KEPT ME THIN!

Boxing didnt keep you thin. Not EATING ENOUGH kept you thin. If do you lots of physical stuff then you have to EAT EVEN MORE.

Its seriously not a hard concept. Eat more until you start gaining. Your stupidity astounds me.

jaycore · 10-07-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by yoj

Boxing didnt keep you thin. Not EATING ENOUGH kept you thin. If do you lots of physical stuff then you have to EAT EVEN MORE.

Its seriously not a hard concept. Eat more until you start gaining. Your stupidity astounds me.

yeah no **** , well im just gonna assume you have boxed before, and know how ****ing intense and cal burning it is,

was my question about food ? no it was about reps you dick falcon.
you obviously feel bitter, probably about having 'sucha smol peenes'

if you take the time to examine this well thought out diagram, you will see just how small your penis is

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if you look closer you find that you also have no knob nor balls.

goodday to you sir, i look forward to your response of the following

yoj · 10-07-2008, 03:12 PM

Haha, nice diagram. Whats the range of error on that puppy?

jaycore · 10-07-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by yoj

Haha, nice diagram. Whats the range of error on that puppy?

longer than your penor thats for sure

oh no he didint

yoj · 10-07-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jaycore

longer than your penor thats for sure

oh no he didint

hey your right, I just put it up to the screen and your right!

On my 150'' plasma, that is.

HEYO

subjugate · 10-07-2008, 03:20 PM

as long as your workout is stimulating your muscles and you feel you cant lift up 5 pounds after your workout, you should not have to worry. Just eat and sleep

JiP · 10-07-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by yoj

Your rep range is like 1% of the equation to gaining mass. Your split, exercise choice and such is another 4%. Guess what the 95% is?

EATING

as refreshing as it is to read this, it's wrong. training under 5 reps won't add near as much mass as ~10

-B- · 10-07-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bad tripp

everyone can argue all day at which rep range builds mass best. theres no one right or wrong way to do things, (within reason) find out what works for you

agree. Plus its fun to experiment with all the different ranges to find what works for you. I have almost always trained very low reps until recently and have been doing higher reps and have been enjoying it.

jaycore · 10-07-2008, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by yoj

hey your right, I just put it up to the screen and your right!

On my 150'' plasma, that is.

HEYO

your plasma is full of goatse,anti-lulz and epic failure