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    Is it ok to eat 87 grams of protein in a single meal? or would some prot turn to fat?

    Is it ok to eat 87 grams of protein in a single meal? or would some of those 87 grams of protein turn to fat?

    Hello, i have the option of having a whey protein shake with 3 scoops of whey protein powder and 12 ounces of milk at night for my dinner. Which would be a total of 87 grams of protein. But is 87 grams of protein too much for 1 single meal?

    3 scoops of whey protein powder: 75
    12 ounces of milk 12

    Total of protein: 87 grams

    Total calories: 450 to 500 calories


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    at 167lbs you dont neet to eat more than 40g per in one meal
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    Why not just do 8oz and 2 scoops?
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    There's no point in eating 87g of protein in one meal, you'd be better off spreading it over two. And it will only be stored as fat if it takes you into a caloric excess.
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    Typically your body can only process so much protein in a given amount of time. Any excess protein (calories) will be stored by the body, used for other functions, etc. It will not do you any good to take in that much protein at once. Depending upon body type 30-50 grams per meal is an estimated maximum.

    Keep this in mind, the whey protein manufacturers put a recommended serving size on the package for a reason. In my opinion, even using 2 scoops when the recommended serving size is one, will be over-kill.

    Sidenote ... you could try adding some BCAAs to the shake for a little extra boost building muscle.
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    only able to absorb 30-50g is a myth. It all depends on the person, see what works for you. Some bodybuilders, such as Nasser El Sonbaty claimed he only needed 100g of protein daily. Usually people like ectomorphs who easily lose weight should probably be taking in more protein in order to maintain mass. Some people can get away with small amounts of protein

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    Don't worry OP, more of teh proteinz just = more jacked fibras obviously
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    It is absolutely true that your body can only absorb (i.e. use/process) a limited amount of protein in a short period of time. Your body is only able to use so many CALORIES over a given time period. If you have 2000 calories in one meal, it is signifcantly different than having 5 meals of 400 calories each. The reason we space our meals is so we can even out the calorie intake and the body can absorb/process/use more of the nutrients (calories) we take in.

    Loading up on 100g of protein in one sitting, as the OP suggested, is not going to help. If you want to consume a massive amount of protein, and have it be of MAXIMUM BENEFIT to your gains, then you MUST space it out during the day.

    Here's a fact ... if you are creating muscle from roids and hormones you won't need to overdo the protein intake. But, Modeling any lifting or diet regime after a professional body builder is not a good idea. This guy that we have a picture of above here is obviously using hormones / sterioids to achieve these results. If you're not on those, don't follow his advice.
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    Originally Posted by tonyg1385 View Post
    Depending upon body type 30-50 grams per meal is an estimated maximum.
    this i take issue with, there is no proof whatsoever that 30-50 is the set range
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...61&postcount=8

    edit:that being said, 87 seems high for a 165lb guy, but i do not know for sure what effect it will have
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    Originally Posted by tonyg1385 View Post
    It is absolutely true that your body can only absorb (i.e. use/process) a limited amount of protein in a short period of time. Your body is only able to use so many CALORIES over a given time period. If you have 2000 calories in one meal, it is signifcantly different than having 5 meals of 400 calories each. The reason we space our meals is so we can even out the calorie intake and the body can absorb/process/use more of the nutrients (calories) we take in.

    Loading up on 100g of protein in one sitting, as the OP suggested, is not going to help. If you want to consume a massive amount of protein, and have it be of MAXIMUM BENEFIT to your gains, then you MUST space it out during the day.

    Here's a fact ... if you are creating muscle from roids and hormones you won't need to overdo the protein intake. But, Modeling any lifting or diet regime after a professional body builder is not a good idea. This guy that we have a picture of above here is obviously using hormones / sterioids to achieve these results. If you're not on those, don't follow his advice.

    Your body can only use so many calories in a given time period ..... right ..... so much bullsh!it in this post I don't even know where to start.
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    Originally Posted by hooked4life View Post
    Your body can only use so many calories in a given time period ..... right ..... so much bullsh!it in this post I don't even know where to start.
    Uhhh, that is right. It can only USE so much and the rest will be STORED (as fat.)
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    Originally Posted by V5RED View Post
    this i take issue with, there is no proof whatsoever that 30-50 is the set range
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...61&postcount=8

    edit:that being said, 87 seems high for a 165lb guy, but i do not know for sure what effect it will have
    I hear you and agree there is no set range. There are too many factors to consider. If someone is 400 lbs. they would certainly be able to "utilize" more than 50 grams in one sitting. What I'm looking at is what is useful and practical. If people were getting better gains taking 100g of protein per meal, then I'm sure more people would jump on the bandwagon.

    My point is simple ... if you're going to take in 250 grams of protein and you eat 6 meals, then you would be wise to get 40-45 grams per meal. Agreed? If you take in 250g in one meal and eat no other protein each day, you won't get the same results as spreading it out. In other words ... your body won't "save it for later" in any useful form.
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    Originally Posted by tonyg1385 View Post
    Uhhh, that is right. It can only USE so much and the rest will be STORED (as fat.)
    By your original post you made it seem as If your body just doesn't absorb calories over a specific amount in a single meal/time frame
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    Originally Posted by Holyspokes View Post
    By your original post you made it seem as If your body just doesn't absorb calories over a specific amount in a single meal/time frame

    My apologies for not being clear in the other post. It is an issue of semantics.
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    Originally Posted by tonyg1385 View Post
    I hear you and agree there is no set range. There are too many factors to consider. If someone is 400 lbs. they would certainly be able to "utilize" more than 50 grams in one sitting. What I'm looking at is what is useful and practical. If people were getting better gains taking 100g of protein per meal, then I'm sure more people would jump on the bandwagon.

    My point is simple ... if you're going to take in 250 grams of protein and you eat 6 meals, then you would be wise to get 40-45 grams per meal. Agreed? If you take in 250g in one meal and eat no other protein each day, you won't get the same results as spreading it out. In other words ... your body won't "save it for later" in any useful form.
    i agree that it is good to spread it out over the day...every 3 hrs i make sure i get in some good quality protein...my only issue was putting such a low number as a limit

    i am 214lbs and i eat ~420g per day and my strength results are much better than when i was eating ~300g per day....so thats ~70g per meal and i am not 400 Lbs

    probably gonna eat more when i am trying to gain size again...i am cutting down for now
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    Originally Posted by V5RED View Post
    i agree that it is good to spread it out over the day...every 3 hrs i make sure i get in some good quality protein...my only issue was putting such a low number as a limit

    i am 214lbs and i eat ~420g per day and my strength results are much better than when i was eating ~300g per day....so thats ~70g per meal and i am not 400 Lbs

    probably gonna eat more when i am trying to gain size again...i am cutting down for now
    But did you increase total calories along with increasing protein?
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    Originally Posted by V5RED View Post
    i agree that it is good to spread it out over the day...every 3 hrs i make sure i get in some good quality protein...my only issue was putting such a low number as a limit

    i am 214lbs and i eat ~420g per day and my strength results are much better than when i was eating ~300g per day....so thats ~70g per meal and i am not 400 Lbs

    probably gonna eat more when i am trying to gain size again...i am cutting down for now
    I'm not saying that the ONLY people that can utilize more than 50g in one meal are 400 lbs.
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    I'm not saying that the ONLY people that can utilize more than 50g in one meal are 400 lbs.
    ic, my mistake...must have misinterpreted what you said
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    Originally Posted by Holyspokes View Post
    But did you increase total calories along with increasing protein?
    protein has 4 calories per gram, so if nothing else changed but protein then total calories clearly increased

    in my case, however i lowered carb/fat intake on my non refeed days, so the calories are about the same
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    Originally Posted by tonyg1385 View Post
    Uhhh, that is right. It can only USE so much and the rest will be STORED (as fat.)
    Not exactly. Your body can only use so much (number is up for debate) - whatever is not used is converted to glucose and used for energy. If you are in a caloric surplus you will gain fat. Coming from carbs, fat or protein, all the same. Nothing is magical about protein.

    If one was to eat ONLY protein (hypothetical only please) say maybe 2000 cals when they burned 4000 you really think they would get fat? Really.
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    good lord; another one of these "will this make me fat" threads. Excess calories make you fat; not strictly just excess protein, carbs, or fat
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