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    Pro's taking in over 100 grams of protein in a meal

    I noticed watching videos of pro's like Ronnie their meals constant of way more than a 100 grams of protein......I find it hard to believe that its just genetics that allow them to actually use all of that? Do the roids/hgh whatever actually allow you to use/digest more protein than if you were natural?
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    Originally Posted by ANARKY View Post
    I noticed watching videos of pro's like Ronnie their meals constant of way more than a 100 grams of protein......I find it hard to believe that its just genetics that allow them to actually use all of that? Do the roids/hgh whatever actually allow you to use/digest more protein than if you were natural?
    yeah, their protein sythesis is greatly altered and much higher than a natural. i wouldnt think they got that high, though. who knows. ill take ya word for it.
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    Yea, Ronnie made a shake with like 6 scoops of protein mix lol...he said he needs 100 grams of protein then later he ate a plate of chicken..like a dinner plate full chicken stacked...thats def over 100 grams.
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    100g of whey protein would be a waste in 1 meal, but you eat 30-40 of it in whey and then a bunch of slower digesting meats... your body will use most if not all if it needs it. 100 is a little high though, personally i eat in the area of 50-60 per meal.
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    Originally Posted by ANARKY View Post
    Yea, Ronnie made a shake with like 6 scoops of protein mix lol...he said he needs 100 grams of protein then later he ate a plate of chicken..like a dinner plate full chicken stacked...thats def over 100 grams.
    haha awesome. which video was this in? i have only seen jay's dvds. i saw some of ronnies first one.
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    At 50-60 g per meal how much muscle are you gaining per week .i.e How much is your weight going up each week.
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    haha awesome. which video was this in? i have only seen jay's dvds. i saw some of ronnies first one.
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    Originally Posted by BiggerTommorow View Post
    100g of whey protein would be a waste in 1 meal, but you eat 30-40 of it in whey and then a bunch of slower digesting meats... your body will use most if not all if it needs it. 100 is a little high though, personally i eat in the area of 50-60 per meal.
    Ronnie Coleman and the rest of the IFBB Pros are not natural, so they need take in much more protein then an average man.
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    Originally Posted by Mae View Post
    haha awesome. which video was this in? i have only seen jay's dvds. i saw some of ronnies first one.
    you should definitely see all of Ronnie's vids
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    I never was a believer that your body could only absorb X amount of protein/carbs/fat at a time. If that were the case, you could techinically binge eat every day and not see much of a consequence. Besides, if you've ever thrown up you know that the stomach doesnt even clear food you ate from hours ago so I'm sure it's still digesting and absorbing.
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    the body only have enzymes to handle about 30-40g of WHEY protein since it oxidates faster than you can produce more enzymes.

    Just blend the whey 40g with 30-40g casein and u have a 80g shake that you will be able to absorb since Casein will slow the release and oxidation of whey.
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    this is crazy

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    if you want to stay the same size forever and never grow.....never be rapidly putting on muscle mass

    go ahead and limit yourself to an amount of protein you think is the upper limits to which can be absorbed in on meal. then 20 years from now when you are hovering around 200 or less, dont be asking yourself why you never got to 230-250 plus.


    if you are under 200 pounds, and your strength is not flying up at a stupid rate, and you are not going into every workout with new muscle mass, dont be talking about the upper limits of how much protein people in general can absorb in one meal.
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    Originally Posted by fantell View Post
    At 50-60 g per meal how much muscle are you gaining per week .i.e How much is your weight going up each week.
    you could gain no muscle at all if you are not getting enough calories. If you are calorie deficient you can eat protein till your blue in the face and you aren't going to put on muscle.
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    your body can only utilize 50-60 grams of protein in a single meal. It does not hurt to eat more than that as it will either stored as fat, excreted or used as a fuel source. Its far more efficient to spread your meals out and keep the amount of amino acids in ur bloodstream high and constant.

    for a 200 pound person its must better to get 7-8 meals of 43-38 grams of protein than it would to get 3 meals of 100g of protein.


    and the biggest misconception with people on this bored is that protein should be the majority of their caloric intake when that is not the case. Athough getting carbs is much easier then getting in the protein it should be about 45% of your calories (when bulking).

    now a pros needs will be different as AAS does increase the rate of protein synthesis their bodys will be more readily available to absorb protein
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    good thing he's sponsored

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    it depends upon the individual, as we all no every1 is different and there is not an expact amount of protein that one can absorb. I think it also depends upon your weight and how much muscle u have
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    Originally Posted by zaqx View Post
    the body only have enzymes to handle about 30-40g of WHEY protein since it oxidates faster than you can produce more enzymes.

    Just blend the whey 40g with 30-40g casein and u have a 80g shake that you will be able to absorb since Casein will slow the release and oxidation of whey.
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    Originally Posted by Flex500 View Post
    you could gain no muscle at all if you are not getting enough calories. If you are calorie deficient you can eat protein till your blue in the face and you aren't going to put on muscle.
    Prove that......because this is the first time I have heard this nonsense. We aren't on gear so we don't need crazy caloies to put on quality muscle.
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    just a reminder syntha-6 is like half casein anyways. so hes only using like 50grams of that protien now.
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    lol ronnie said he wanted 100 grams of protein, but he put 7 overfilled scoops in, thats near 200 grams of protein. also thats bsn syntha 6, has alot of carbs and a bit of fat, thats a 1600 calorie shake. lol
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    Thats the primary aspect of anabolics and protein synthesis, less protein goes to waste, more protein gets used for anabolic activity
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    he didnt use leveled scoops but heres what it would be for 7 leveled scoops:

    Calories:1400
    Fat:42g
    Carbs:105
    Protein:154g

    not a bad post workout shake....
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    Originally Posted by BauerTheBeast View Post
    he didnt use leveled scoops but heres what it would be for 7 leveled scoops:

    Calories:1400
    Fat:42g
    Carbs:105
    Protein:154g

    not a bad post workout shake....
    One serving is two scoops. Not one scoop like other protein powders.
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    the question is if , slin and other compounds that increase your protein synthesis allow you to take in much more protein at once.
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    Are you guys forgetting that Ronnie Coleman went over 300lbs in the off season. Not exactly your average guy.
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    Originally Posted by CanuckTank View Post
    One serving is two scoops. Not one scoop like other protein powders.
    its recommended that you take two scoops but on the bottle it shows you the amounts for one scoop. correct me if I'm wrong

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    Originally Posted by CanuckTank View Post
    Prove that......because this is the first time I have heard this nonsense. We aren't on gear so we don't need crazy caloies to put on quality muscle.
    No, you totally missed his point. By definition, you would need excess calories cus otherwise you're body wont' grow. If you're calorie deficient, all that means is you are burning more calories than you are taking in. But guess what? Protein has calories, duh. So if you eat lots of protein but STILL are burning more calories than you're taking in, then you can't grow. BUt not everyone's metabolism is the same, so different people have different maintenance levels of calories. Some folks can do it on 1500 or less, some need 2000 or 2500 or whatever and others need 3k or more, etc. Everyone has a different maintenance level. He didn't say you need "crazy calories"....he just said if you're calorie deficient, then you can't grow....which is true. Cus by definition, if you're growing, then you're not calorie deficient.
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    Originally Posted by stealth_swimmer View Post
    No, you totally missed his point. By definition, you would need excess calories cus otherwise you're body wont' grow. If you're calorie deficient, all that means is you are burning more calories than you are taking in. But guess what? Protein has calories, duh. So if you eat lots of protein but STILL are burning more calories than you're taking in, then you can't grow. BUt not everyone's metabolism is the same, so different people have different maintenance levels of calories. Some folks can do it on 1500 or less, some need 2000 or 2500 or whatever and others need 3k or more, etc. Everyone has a different maintenance level. He didn't say you need "crazy calories"....he just said if you're calorie deficient, then you can't grow....which is true. Cus by definition, if you're growing, then you're not calorie deficient.
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    Originally Posted by stealth_swimmer View Post
    No, you totally missed his point. By definition, you would need excess calories cus otherwise you're body wont' grow. If you're calorie deficient, all that means is you are burning more calories than you are taking in. But guess what? Protein has calories, duh. So if you eat lots of protein but STILL are burning more calories than you're taking in, then you can't grow. BUt not everyone's metabolism is the same, so different people have different maintenance levels of calories. Some folks can do it on 1500 or less, some need 2000 or 2500 or whatever and others need 3k or more, etc. Everyone has a different maintenance level. He didn't say you need "crazy calories"....he just said if you're calorie deficient, then you can't grow....which is true. Cus by definition, if you're growing, then you're not calorie deficient.
    Calories dont' build muscle, protein and training does. By your thought process, we could sit on our ass, have a calorie exceess and grow muscle.

    We don't need excess calories to grow, we need excess protein to grow. A daily calories excess leads to fat gain when it is not used period, it doesn't go to muscle at all. BBr's have a high strung metabolism based on their drug use and hence why they need to keep the calories high.

    Normal people don't need a calorie excess to grow quality muscle. That thought process leads to fat gain and fat gain only.
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