I just need some natural ways to reduce estrogen levels. No products like novedex ect...
What are some?
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10-05-2008, 08:53 AM #1
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10-05-2008, 09:42 AM #3
found this:
Avoid high-fat and highly processed foods
Increase your fibre to 30 grams/day,
Reduce alcohol consumption
Look for enjoyable ways to reduce stress
Consume a natural, organic, whole foods diet consisting of raw fruit, vegetables and whole grains and get regular exercise.
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10-05-2008, 09:50 AM #4
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10-05-2008, 10:24 AM #6
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This would be a better product, but I am uncertain what you would notice from taking it. Considering I have not taken I3C by itself before.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/no...3carbinol.html
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10-05-2008, 11:13 AM #10
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I've been taking 50mg in the AM with my multi (which also has Zinc).
I think what I read was this doctor recommends 50mg and if people still have issues bumps them up to 100mg until retesting and drops down if E is in check.
Google DIM/Indoplex or search in the HRT section. I'll get hit with the jkeith ban stick if I give you a link
EDIT: This one is legal: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/dim.htmlLast edited by TexAss; 10-05-2008 at 11:16 AM.
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10-05-2008, 11:18 AM #11
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10-05-2008, 07:27 PM #17
DIM is nothing more than a marketing tool to sell it based on the fact it had high bio availability compared to I3C which was unstable and reactive. Fact of the matter is I3C's reactive nature is what makes it worthwhile. It has been shown pretty convincingly that all of I3Cs work does not lie in it's metabolite DIM.
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10-05-2008, 08:11 PM #20
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Something I found:
From the Linus Pauling site...just one source...
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocente...inc/index.html
Zinc Nutrient Interactions
Calcium
High levels of dietary calcium impair zinc absorption in animals, but it is uncertain whether this occurs in humans. Increasing the calcium intake of postmenopausal women by 890 mg/day in the form of milk or calcium phosphate (total calcium intake 1,360 mg/day) reduced zinc absorption and zinc balance in postmenopausal women, but increasing the calcium intake of adolescent girls by 1,000 mg/day in the form of calcium citrate malate (total calcium intake 1,667 mg/day) did not affect zinc absorption or balance (11). Calcium in combination with phytic acid reduces zinc absorption. This effect is particularly relevant to individuals consuming a diet that is highly dependent on tortillas made with lime (calcium oxide). For more information on phytic acid, see Food Sources.
Food sources
Zinc bioavailability (the fraction of zinc retained and used by the body) is relatively high in meat, eggs, and seafood because of the relative absence of compounds that inhibit zinc absorption and the presence of certain amino acids (cysteine and methionine) that improve zinc absorption.
The zinc in whole grain products and plant proteins is less bioavailable due to their relatively high content of phytic acid, a compound that inhibits zinc absorption. The enzymatic action of yeast reduces the level of phytic acid in foods. Therefore, leavened whole grain breads have more bioavailable zinc than unleavened whole grain breads.
Thanks for the info on DIM, CCCU. I was regurgitating that info from the HRT section where it seems folks are pretty happy with the way it works. Most of the guys that are using it, however, are using it in lieu of Arimidex because they have endos that don't believe in regulating E (possibly not testing E either).
Isn't resveratrol supposed to have some helpful E action? Or am I confusing it with I3C?*No Crew*
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10-05-2008, 08:13 PM #21
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