today i did a set of 15 rep deadlifts and i felt it way more in my glutes then i usually do, i only used 280. i think i might start training in the 10-15 rep range when im not doing max effort deads
has anyone had success doing this
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10-03-2008, 08:49 PM #1
high rep deadlifts
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10-03-2008, 10:10 PM #2
dimel deadlifts
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10-03-2008, 10:23 PM #3
That video is +10 for dethklokage.
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10-03-2008, 10:34 PM #4
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10-04-2008, 01:21 AM #5
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I used to do my deadlifts in the higher rep range and then I droped my reps down to half and all of a sudden my strength shot way past where it used to be. I suppose the volume you use is going to reflect your lifting goal. for me i want to be able to flip a Cadillac over so I go heavy and in the low volume. In the past 6 months I gained 100 pounds on my deadlift. I went from pulling 285x4 to pulling 405x1.
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10-04-2008, 01:22 AM #6
That's still a crappy lift considering your weight
Last edited by Kooobe; 10-04-2008 at 01:25 AM.
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10-04-2008, 01:54 AM #7
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10-04-2008, 02:11 AM #8
I hav success with starting around 15-20 reps and adding 10-50lbs a workout while just working up to 1 set to failure
followed by heavy close stance box squats
defici deads or rack pulls
abb work
uppe back wor
usually divide all that**** up so I end uo training 2 times a week for it, like squat, back, and abbs one day. And he other day would be like deadlift, deficit deadlift or rack pull, back and abbs
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10-04-2008, 02:12 AM #9
I sometimes do Dimel deads for hamstring work.
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10-04-2008, 02:36 AM #10
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i cant seem to keep my arch on sldls or dimels so I just do pullthroughs rounded over instead!
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10-04-2008, 07:59 AM #11
thats what i did. here was my workout
1x15(failure) deadlifts
1x8 (Failure) leg press
2x10 reverse hypers (light)
then on tuesday i'll do like
1x10 squats
2xfailure GHR
2-3x5 reverse hyper and i go for a PR
some ab work
i've been having prs doing this every time now i wish i had known that this was best for me earlier does that look ok
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10-04-2008, 08:03 AM #12
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10-04-2008, 08:09 AM #13
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EAT BABIES!!!
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10-04-2008, 08:10 AM #14
it looks fine
the important thing is that you make some kind of gain every workout
I find this easiest to do working with 1 set, and higher reps where I add weight every workout. But 5x5 of 10x3 or 1x10 or what ever, would all work.
I burn out with heavy weight, only time I make gains is when working with reps. And if its a max set of 3-5 I highly doubt next week I will be able to hit 4-6 with that weight. But I could go from 9 reps to 10 reps pretty damn easy.
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10-04-2008, 08:21 AM #15
Oh yeah. Steve Wilson pulled 850 back in the 70's and he would only use 224-275 for 2 or 3 sets of 20+ a couple of times a week. Then once a month he'd pull heavy for low reps.
I have been wanting to give this a go myself but it's not the right time. I am going to institute this into my training in about a month for the next 6 months to give it a fair go and see how it all works out. Either way, I've seen dude after dude gain on their 1 rep max after they switched over to high rep squats and deads for a while.
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10-04-2008, 08:40 AM #16
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good morning, glute hams, reverse hyper, rows, pulldown abs and sled work then come back at night and go more glute hams, reverse hyper and abs, but dont work out longer than 20 minutes
this is a tried and tested method folks
anyway I tend to do rep/weight progressions. Start with a weight I can do 6-8 reps with, bump it up to 12-15 in a couple of workouts and up the weight. After I get bored or stop making gainz I switch exercises
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10-04-2008, 09:07 AM #17
its not about any specific rep scheme
higher reps are just easier to improve on than low reps for most people. Going from 225x9, to 225x10, is much easier than going from 275x3, to 275x4
Allot of times there are people who never train with high reps, so as soon as their body starts doing them, their body gets used to training for higher reps and they start making big deadlift PR's in a higher rep range. If they can slowly add weight to these high reps and maintain the gains all the way up until they can translate the high rep gains into a good max PR then they have hit the nail on the head with their training.
also high reps for squats and deadlifts are more of a mental thing than anything, if you want it bad enough you will make gains.
Its like 20 rep squats, in one cycle you can turn your 10 rm into your 20rm, if you kept adding 10lbs a workout to that 1 set until you finally peaked out at like 5 reps you would probably find you would hit a huge max PR
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10-04-2008, 09:19 AM #18
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10-04-2008, 09:21 AM #19
Generally speaking. I find that in the grand scheme of things higher rep **** lends itself just as much to getting strong as lower rep ****. I dont know the science about it, if its bringing up the muscles CP/Glycogen stores, or allowing some sort of conditioning or volume adaptation to take place. But it works.
It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but rather the one most responsive to change.
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10-04-2008, 09:56 AM #20
That is quite a video. dead lifts have helped me when i did high reps!
Check out my progress and how I went from 157lbs to 191lbs in 9 months..
http://www.vincedelmontefitness.org
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10-04-2008, 10:34 AM #21
yeah
gains are gains, if you only train with sets of 8-10 you may not be a super efficient max lifter, but you will make gains on your 1rm if you up your 10rm.
Theres a time for heavy, a time for medium, and a time for light weight. Theres a time for perfect form, and a time for some cheating. If people stopped thinking in absolutes and learned for them selves what worked then things wouldnt be near as complicated as people make it out to be.
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10-04-2008, 11:14 AM #22
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10-04-2008, 11:50 AM #23anonymousGuest
Sumo, yes, rack deads, yes conventional... no. I didn't like to do conventional for touch n go high reps as they turned into stiff leg pulls halfway through the set.
Sumo seems to lend itself to rep work better imo. And if you're not doing them touch n go then I would question the point of high reps (no tension, the pause/reset is losing you relatively a lot more potential strength that it would on a lower rep set)
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10-04-2008, 01:19 PM #24
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10-04-2008, 01:24 PM #25
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10-04-2008, 01:25 PM #26
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10-04-2008, 01:28 PM #27
I get more hypertrophy than strength out of them. By this I mean the training effect is not specific enough for me. If I was going to move up to the 242's, then I would do more high rep work, but as I am at the top end of my weight class and wish to stay there until my next and final meet, I am going to avoid high-reps except as the occasional de-loading phase.
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10-04-2008, 01:52 PM #28
Uhhh I never said it was. I merely pointed out that Steve Wilson used high rep deadlifts for years to build an impressive deadlift.
higher reps are just easier to improve on than low reps for most people. Going from 225x9, to 225x10, is much easier than going from 275x3, to 275x4
Allot of times there are people who never train with high reps, so as soon as their body starts doing them, their body gets used to training for higher reps and they start making big deadlift PR's in a higher rep range. If they can slowly add weight to these high reps and maintain the gains all the way up until they can translate the high rep gains into a good max PR then they have hit the nail on the head with their training.
also high reps for squats and deadlifts are more of a mental thing than anything, if you want it bad enough you will make gains.
Its like 20 rep squats, in one cycle you can turn your 10 rm into your 20rm, if you kept adding 10lbs a workout to that 1 set until you finally peaked out at like 5 reps you would probably find you would hit a huge max PR
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10-04-2008, 01:54 PM #29
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10-04-2008, 02:45 PM #30
Well I think its largely dependant on where you are in your training and what your training history looks like.
If you train with nothing but moderate intensities and higher reppage, then increasing the intensity and focusing on low rep sets would probably work best.
If you spent 90% of your time doing nothing but triples and sets of 5, it probably goes the other way.It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but rather the one most responsive to change.
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