Chocolate milk

[Widge]

You said sugar isn't sugar. I said sugar is sugar, and so is a calorie a calorie...



"she"

u be padantic then

[TheWaffleIron]

lol sugars are deffonately not sugars, for a start 1/3 people are lactose intolerant which means the carbs in the milk becom pretty much usless

Lactose is the sugar found in milk.

the protein is also fairly slow release and who wants that post workout

Classic broscience. Nice.

so fructose is glucose?

Glucose and fructose have the same molecular formula. However, the structural formulas are different.

[daYDreAmErX]

u be padantic then

Educate me

[Widge]

Lactose is the sugar found in milk.



Classic broscience. Nice.



Glucose and fructose have the same molecular formula. However, the structural formulas are different.

i dont tihnk you are aware of the english saying of "...... are not......."

please do some research on it

milk protein is 90% casein

im well aware of dem ere structures

i dont see what your point is, you just try to prov people wrong no matter what

[liv2bfit]

You said sugar isn't sugar. I said sugar is sugar, and so is a calorie a calorie...



"she"

my appologies!

[TheWaffleIron]

i dont tihnk you are aware of the english saying of "...... are not......."

please do some research on it

While I research that, how about you research postWO nutrition?

milk protein is 90% casein

No, actually its approximately 82%. Nonetheless, what is the problem with casein protein postwo?

[daYDreAmErX]

i dont see what your point is, you just try to prov people wrong no matter what

You are wrong.

Casein PWO is just fine, do some reasearch.

[liv2bfit]

i dont tihnk you are aware of the english saying of "...... are not......."

please do some research on it

milk protein is 90% casein

im well aware of dem ere structures

i dont see what your point is, you just try to prov people wrong no matter what

when they are wrong

[Widge]

While I research that, how about you research postWO nutrition?



No, actually its approximately 82%. Nonetheless, what is the problem with casein protein postwo?

did i ever say there was sometihng wrong with it? i said most people dont want it which is the general consensious (sp) on these boards

[Neopragmatist]

Lighten up, everyone!

[lorinelise]

All saturated fats are good???

Saturated fats - sources include beef, lamb, milk, cheese, other dairy products and MOST processed foods containing hydrogenated vegetable shortening, such as pastries and fried fast foods.
All im saying is...not ALL Sat fats are Created equal.. they contribute to heart disease and high blood cholestrol. i eat atleast 10-15 grams a day

but saying SATURATED FATS ARE NOT BAD PERIOD. not good

You're twisting things in the wrong light....saturated fats are not bad.

Certain foods are considered "unhealthy" (you listed fried foods and pastries), but this is not BECAUSE of the saturated fat in them. Hydrogenated shortening is trans fat anyways, and I personally do not feel that pastries are bad for your health...look at France. The quantity and frequency in which they are consumed is what brings about negative health effects.

And no, saturated fats themselves do not contribute to heart disease or high cholesterol.

In conclusion, the hypothesis-generating report of Mozaffarian et al draws attention to the different effects of diet on lipoprotein physiology and cardiovascular disease risk. These effects include the paradox that a high-fat, high?saturated fat diet is associated with diminished coronary artery disease progression in women with the metabolic syndrome, a condition that is epidemic in the United States. This paradox presents a challenge to differentiate the effects of dietary fat on lipoproteins and cardiovascular disease risk in men and women, in the different lipid disorders, and in the metabolic syndrome.

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/80/5/1102

A greater saturated fat intake is associated with less progression of coronary atherosclerosis, whereas carbohydrate intake is associated with a greater progression.

We conclude that pyruvate supplementation of a high-fat, high- cholesterol, anabolic diet will decrease plasma cholesterol and LDL- cholesterol concentrations without affecting the HDL-cholesterol concentration.

Source for all article citations: AJCN

[yeashescool]

Choco milk gets you jacked bro's

[Squat2Grow]

Choco milk gets you jacked bro's

x2...

[Neopragmatist]

look at France.

Ah, the infamous French Paradox.

*refers to the observation that the French suffer a relatively low incidence of coronary heart disease, despite having a diet relatively rich in saturated fats.*

[djansen]

did i ever say there was sometihng wrong with it? i said most people dont want it which is the general consensious (sp) on these boards

really? you should read the boards more often then.

and lol, dont have lactose, fructose is much better.

[lorinelise]

Ah, the infamous French Paradox.

*refers to the observation that the French suffer a relatively low incidence of coronary heart disease, despite having a diet relatively rich in saturated fats.*

Yep. Saturated fat, carbohydrates, sugar, and fruit....all the things many people on this board avoid like the plague ;-)

[FootBallBeast]

Why specifically "chocolate milk"? Why wouldn't milk be better? Chocolate milk is pretty much milk with sugar right?

[lorinelise]

Why specifically "chocolate milk"? Why wouldn't milk be better? Chocolate milk is pretty much milk with sugar right?

Yes. Many are under the broscientifical impression that an "insulin spike" must be created with the PWO meal, thus they generally use simple carbohydrates to achieve this.

[MarkVI]

Yes. Many are under the broscientifical impression that an "insulin spike" must be created with the PWO meal, thus they generally use simple carbohydrates to achieve this.

no no no it MUST be created !!! ....how are you gonna get teh jacked fibraz?

[thedestro]

Yep. Saturated fat, carbohydrates, sugar, and fruit....all the things many people on this board avoid like the plague ;-)

Unfortunately you have a bit of a dilemma here. I doubt you're willing to argue that CVD doesn't have a dietary cause, as it's pretty clear that it does. With that in mind, crossing off the only two candidates for their cause is madness given that there's nothing to support any third alternative. Obviously I'm all for saturated fat, because on the other hand, we didn't evolve to eat 150+lbs of sugar a year.

[lorinelise]

Unfortunately you have a bit of a dilemma here. I doubt you're willing to argue that CVD doesn't have a dietary cause, as it's pretty clear that it does. With that in mind, crossing off the only two candidates for their cause is madness given that there's nothing to support any third alternative. Obviously I'm all for saturated fat; on the other hand, we didn't evolve to eat 150+lbs of sugar a year.

I believe that the cause for Americans' higher rate of CVD has a lot to do with their excessive intake of processed foods; the highly refined carbohydrates and sugars, the modified fats and oils, the ridiculous levels of sodium and low amounts of fiber in MANY popular food choices.

Personally, I don't eat a lot of sugar, especially added sugar. My comment about the French leaves out the fact that they eat these decadent pastries in moderation (unlike Americans' "bigger is better" outlook on food) and that they engage in regular physical activity, walking is a major form of transportation.

[CodyA]

You're twisting things in the wrong light....saturated fats are not bad.

Certain foods are considered "unhealthy" (you listed fried foods and pastries), but this is not BECAUSE of the saturated fat in them. Hydrogenated shortening is trans fat anyways, and I personally do not feel that pastries are bad for your health...look at France. The quantity and frequency in which they are consumed is what brings about negative health effects.

And no, saturated fats themselves do not contribute to heart disease or high cholesterol.


http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/80/5/1102





Source for all article citations: AJCN

I said i eat atleast 10-15 grams of Sat Fats a day.But If you feel that it's NOT BAD to eat as many saturated fats as you want go ahead... But dont state that SATURATED FATS ARE GOOD FOR YOU PERIOD. I can find just as much or more research that supports the negetave effects of saturated fat. I never said that saturated fat alone caused heart disease but it is a contributer to it. If you dont believe so then eat the Doughnut oh i meant (pastry) fried and more than likely covered in some coating with tons of trans fats.

[immax01]

I love me a good dose of chocolate milk after pretty much any activity.
Toss in some peanut butter and you've got a nectar of the gods..

Who knew bodybuilding could be so delicious!

[lorinelise]

I said i eat atleast 10-15 grams of Sat Fats a day.But If you feel that it's NOT BAD to eat as many saturated fats as you want go ahead... But dont state that SATURATED FATS ARE GOOD FOR YOU PERIOD. I can find just as much or more research that supports the negetave effects of saturated fat. I never said that saturated fat alone caused heart disease but it is a contributer to it.

You're enjoying arguing, but you're completely missing the point. Saturated fats ARE good for you. Certain FOODS are not good, but this is not BECAUSE they contain saturated fats. Is that better, now that I've left out all the "science" and used caps lock instead??

Go ahead and find research if you like, but make sure it is newer than the research I provided above. That's the thing about this crazy "science," it's constantly evolving.

If you dont believe so then eat the Doughnut oh i meant (pastry) fried and more than likely covered in some coating with tons of trans fats.

Trans fats are not the same as saturated fats. Stop bringing them up.

[djansen]

I said i eat atleast 10-15 grams of Sat Fats a day.But If you feel that it's NOT BAD to eat as many saturated fats as you want go ahead... But dont state that SATURATED FATS ARE GOOD FOR YOU PERIOD. I can find just as much or more research that supports the negetave effects of saturated fat. I never said that saturated fat alone caused heart disease but it is a contributer to it. If you dont believe so then eat the Doughnut oh i meant (pastry) fried and more than likely covered in some coating with tons of trans fats.

I would like to see some studdies. What did these peoples diets include? high carbs? did they exercise?

[koh19]

I've got a couple questions regarding chocolate milk and I'd be thrilled if you guys could help me:

1. Why milk after a workout? Is it for the protein (casein)?

2. This one is maybe weirder; why chocolate milk and not just milk?

3. What chocolate should I add (Nesquik, Hershey's chocolate syrup,...)?

Currently, I take milk, with egg white powder and Hershey's chocolate syrup.

I've been drinkin choco milk for quite some time but I've never actually known why I do it? hehe..

thanks guys

[am3ricans0ldier]

dude i drink a quart of choco milk along with a quart of whole milk every day...it seems to help me out alot...just do what works for u and f U K all the haters who think something they read from an manorexic or possibly even some fatass professor BS degreee holder that the fat is bad or the sugar is bad...screw that dude eat drink and get huge

[liv2bfit]

dude i drink a quart of choco milk along with a quart of whole milk every day...it seems to help me out alot...just do what works for u and f U K all the haters who think something they read from an manorexic or possibly even some fatass professor BS degreee holder that the fat is bad or the sugar is bad...screw that dude eat drink and get huge

x2. dont fear the cow juice!!!

[MarkVI]

x2. dont fear the cow juice!!!

X2 Cow Juice kept our family business going! Farmers need $ too !


Support the farmers of America - drink milk. Lots of it.

[koh19]

I've got a couple questions regarding chocolate milk and I'd be thrilled if you guys could help me:

1. Why milk after a workout? Is it for the protein (casein)?

2. This one is maybe weirder; why chocolate milk and not just milk?

3. What chocolate should I add (Nesquik, Hershey's chocolate syrup,...)?

Currently, I take milk, with egg white powder and Hershey's chocolate syrup.

I've been drinkin choco milk for quite some time but I've never actually known why I do it? hehe..

thanks guys

bump guys