I keep hearing different views to how to drop body fat...so which is it?
I hear you are to eat 100% clean in order to see the results. But I also hear that the only thing that matters is calories in vs. calories out....meaning you can eat whatever you want as long as you don't go over your recommended calories.
I'm so confused....am I able to treat myself if my macros are in check or stay away from processed food and/or garbage?
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Thread: eat clean or count calories??
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10-03-2008, 05:40 AM #1
eat clean or count calories??
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10-03-2008, 06:36 AM #2
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i go crazy counting calories, it seems stressful. so instead i eat clean, but i do measure my portions (in ounces, cups, etc.). On days when i've not eaten a whole bunch of calories but have only taken in processed foods, i do notice a difference - i seem to retain more water and i feel sluggish. Clean eating, FTW.
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10-03-2008, 07:32 AM #3
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Eating fewer calories than what you need will guarantee you lose body tissue (either muscle or fat). What you eat will influence how much fat over muscle you lose.
The more you need to restrict your calories to continue to progress with fat loss, the more strict you will have to become with eating whole foods to give your body the nutrition it needs to maintain muscle. I assume you would agree that your body needs a certain amount of protein, carbs and fats to perform as well as it can. It may take some experimentation to find what macro breakdown works best for you as an individual, but you'd probably agree that on a 1,500 calorie diet eating 700 calories worth of chocolate cake (low protein, high sugar and often high fat food) is not a good idea when it comes to meeting the nutritional requirements of your body. 100 calories of sugar certainly has less impact than 700, but it's still calories that could be put to better use on protein and quality carbs. If you do have treats, don't complain about it being difficult to eat your bodyweight in grams of protein...LOL
Beyond "calories in vs. calories out" unprocessed, high quality food provides a steadier flow of energy and is more satiating, which will help with your fat loss goals. Providing your body with nutrient dense foods over empty calories will also keep you from having any nutrient difficiencies that will keep you from reaching your goals over time, as well.
I personally don't schedule any cheat meals when my goal is to lean up. I might average a cheat meal a month when that is my main goal (although there are some months I don't have any cheats). After a month or so of not "cheating" I lose my urge to do so. Not WANTING to have treats on a regular basis is another useful tool when it comes to fat loss. So...it's always my advice to stay away from the treats while focusing on losing fat unless there's an actual special occassion involved.
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10-03-2008, 08:10 AM #4
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10-03-2008, 09:20 AM #5
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10-03-2008, 10:28 AM #7
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Agreed with all the ladies here! I'd also like to add that although I find "portion size" and "eating clean" to be the 2 most important factors in fat loss (counting calories would drive me to stress which would make my body store more fat), I think making your "cheats" or "treats" something healthy would also be a great way to help you maintain your weight in the long run. I make wonderful tasting protein smoothies that taste like an icecream shake (cottage cheese, casein protein, strawberries, banana, water and tons of ice)...also for a chocolate treat (when that time of month comes around), I usually just have a 1-2 little pieces of Brach's sugar free peppermint patty or sf coconut bars....there delish.
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10-03-2008, 11:19 AM #8
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10-03-2008, 11:56 AM #9
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10-03-2008, 12:00 PM #10
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10-04-2008, 02:56 AM #11
On the notion of 'clean foods' - if you really want to know 'what is what' - read: HERE
(yes it is long... but it is worth it. )
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10-06-2008, 05:08 AM #12
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10-06-2008, 05:28 AM #13
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Eating clean foods is what it's all about...but if you're looking to reach certain goals you need to take it another step further and really count those calories and find a macro breakdown that works best for you.
I see too many women on this board that complain about the scale not moving, bodyfat not dropping, feeling hungry all the time, feeling tired, cheating on their diets, etc...they eat clean, but have no idea how many calories they're taking in and this is why they run into problems.
Yes it can be a pain in the ass counting calories...but it's the key to the whole process if you want to do it the right way.
As for throwing in cheats, it really depends on the individual. Some people can throw them in 1x a week others more...it all depends on what kind of goals you're trying to achieve and how much time you want to take to get there.
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10-06-2008, 05:51 AM #14
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10-06-2008, 12:07 PM #15
There are alot of calculators. thedailyplate.com is the one I use.
Terracotta has a web site that has a calculator. BUT you have to find
out what works for you. Stay on a certain calorie range for enough time
to let it work, be honest about what you are eating and the portions and
if it is not working then change it. This is a lifetime process. Be patient
and have fun along the way.
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10-07-2008, 05:19 AM #16
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10-07-2008, 06:04 AM #17
Why choose? I eat clean and count calories and watch my macros. For me, eating clean is a no-brainer just for life. You get one body, and it has to last you a long time (hopefully). Don't junk it up with substandard food!
But I also count calories because for me, the accountabilty is key. I like seeing in black and white what I am putting in my body so if I don't see results, I have concrete evidence of why, not just a *feeling* like I have been eating right and working out.
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10-07-2008, 02:28 PM #18
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I personally can't lose weight without counting calories (or at least creating a meal plan so that I know approximately how many calories I'm eating). Once you start counting calories, you will soon see how much easier it is to restrict them when you're eating clean. You won't want to waste 500 calories on a high sugar, no fiber snack because then you'll feel hungry throughout the day.
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10-08-2008, 05:11 AM #19
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