Phil Heath 2013 Mr. Olympia Vs. Big Ramy 2014 New York Pro PICS!!!

[Iceman1981]

Phil Heath 2013 Mr. Olympia Vs. Big Ramy 2014 New York Pro PICS!!!

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Here are some comparisons I found of Phil and Big Ramy. This gives us a better picture of what advantages and disadvantages each guy has on the other. Ramy outsizes Phil with ease, but Phil's conditioning is just on another level. What do you guys think?

[TTimmerman]

find it really hard to believe these comparisons... phil got dwarfed at last years O and here it seems he's outmassing a 300lb monster

[Larfleeze]

find it really hard to believe these comparisons... phil got dwarfed at last years O and here it seems he's outmassing a 300lb monster

x2, Phil should definitely be smaller

[Masry3]

x2, Phil should definitely be smaller

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[Canuck77]

Phil is definitely harder and more conditioned. In saying that, as soon as Ramy finds his conditioning and can come in as dry as Phil, I think it may be game over.

Agree with others re: comparisons.

[Iceman1981]

I didn't make these comparisons. I found them on a European forum. Ramy is bigger in the pics above, but he should of been a little bigger.

[Masry3]

I didn't make these comparisons. I found them on a European forum. Ramy is bigger in the pics above, but he should of been a little bigger.

Nonetheless, thank you for sharing Iceman

[B-Neva]

phil will win

[RoroCwalker]

A while back, I shopped Ramy next to Phil in the FLS at the 2013 Mr.O, judging from the comparisons posted in the OP, it would make sense.

[Masry3]

What kind of illusion is this?

Ramy's arms are bigger than heath's in the FDB, but heath's arms look massive in the MM.

Is it just the way they're hitting the pose or what?

[flangmasterj]

Got some work to do Ramy.

[Loastres]

What kind of illusion is this?

Ramy's arms are bigger than heath's in the FDB, but heath's arms look massive in the MM.

Is it just the way they're hitting the pose or what?

its pretty well known that Phils arms look smaller in the front double biceps compared to his MM

[jahaa]

Phil's legs bigger in the BDB seems legit...

[Jaixs]

Not really fair to compare an off season bodybuilder vs someone in competition shape..

[Penile_Dementia]

Phil is clearly superior regardless of scaling, but Ramy's front lat spread is totally dominant

[Penile_Dementia]

A while back, I shopped Ramy next to Phil in the FLS at the 2013 Mr.O, judging from the comparisons posted in the OP, it would make sense.

That looks as legit as can be. Could you do this with the other poses?

[RoroCwalker]

That looks as legit as can be. Could you do this with the other poses?

Definitely, I'll give it a try.

[DanOsman]

The thing is, you could rescale all the pictures by 5-10% in Ramy's favor and STILL, he would lose all the comparisons.

The hardness and mostly the SEPARATION Phil has, grant him the victory, no doubt.
But hey, I'm of course just stating the obvious, this is no rocket science.







Oh, and yes, (When and If) Ramy will achieve that level of: conditioning, separation, graininess, maturity..... he'll be the clear winner.

[flangmasterj]

Not really fair to compare an off season bodybuilder vs someone in competition shape..

[TexasMajor]

Not really fair to compare an off season bodybuilder vs someone in competition shape..

[Big Slim DaDDy]

What kind of illusion is this?

Ramy's arms are bigger than heath's in the FDB, but heath's arms look massive in the MM.

Is it just the way they're hitting the pose or what?

It's moreso Phil's triceps and forearms that make his arms big. His biceps are thicker as opposed to having really high pointed peaks ect.

[weltweitefurcht]

What kind of illusion is this?

Ramy's arms are bigger than heath's in the FDB, but heath's arms look massive in the MM.

Is it just the way they're hitting the pose or what?

I'll show you some pictures showing different angles. In some pictures, Phil's arms look like they dwarf kais, but in other pictures Kai looks to have the bigger arm:

[Unbiasedfan]

Ones strong points is the other weak points. Bananas and zucchinis.

[RoroCwalker]

That looks as legit as can be. Could you do this with the other poses?

Keep in mind that Ramy was at the very end and the camera is slightly angled(you can see how Lionel appears to be the tallest and Ramy is a lot shorter than if he was in the middle), he's also twisting for that very reason, so the scaling is not perfectly aligned, although, I just noticed that I could use a better set of pictures but I'll do it when I'll have the time.

The side chest and RLS were tricky due to Ramy's crunching.

Open the images in a new tab to make them bigger.

[Deano87]

Im still skeptical with these comparisons (the ones in the OP), I think lighting plays a big role, along with different camera angles etc.
Bodybuilding is judged down to the minute detail, and its always hard comparing 2 different individual performances.

[Larfleeze]

I'll show you some pictures showing different angles. In some pictures, Phil's arms look like they dwarf kais, but in other pictures Kai looks to have the bigger arm:

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[im]http://npcnewsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/FrontDouble.jpg[/img]

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It's bizarre seeing these posted by someone other than roro..

[flangmasterj]

So what do you guys reckon? Ramy in second knocking Wolf back to seventh and Kai to third? Fourth Sandow for Phil?

[RoroCwalker]

It's bizarre seeing these posted by someone other than roro..

Hehehe.

So what do you guys reckon? Ramy in second knocking Wolf back to seventh and Kai to third? Fourth Sandow for Phil?

Phil, Kai and Wolf are wild cards, any of them could get the Sandow this year.

Considering it'll be the best Ramy we'll see (according to him and DJ), I can throw in Ramy in the top 3-4 mix as well.

He4th, Ka1 or Wo1f, it's all possible.

[jahaa]

I think Wolf getting third last year is as high as he will ever be. Think he will be forth max this year.

[Canuck77]

its pretty well known that Phils arms look smaller in the front double biceps compared to his MM

Phil's MM hand clasped in Levrone-esque in terms of arm size. Anyone know the size of Phil's arms? Levrone had some 24" guns back in the day.