When you say "I squat 230lbs" are you counting the 45lbs of the bar? Or is 230lbs only the weight of the plates?
Thank you.
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09-28-2008, 10:18 AM #1Registered User
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Dumb question about the weight you lift
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09-28-2008, 10:20 AM #2Banned
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you are supposed to count the bar
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09-28-2008, 10:21 AM #3Banned
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I'm almost positive that people count the bar. That's why benching with one plate a side=135lb bench.
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09-28-2008, 10:21 AM #4The BACKMAN
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If I lift it, I count it.
Including multiplying that by constant g.Bodybuilding is 60% training and 50% diet. Yes that adds up to 110%, because that's what you should be giving it. Change the inside, and the physique will follow.
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09-28-2008, 10:23 AM #5lol I dunno
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lol this.Originally Posted by DJAuto
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09-28-2008, 11:36 AM #6Registered User
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Is this true on all exercises? Bench, Curls, etc. I have never counted the bar before---wasn't sure if it is correct to or not.Originally Posted by Wowstrongcut
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09-28-2008, 11:40 AM #7Registered User
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Exactly. If you don't multiply the mass by g, then how do you know the force?Originally Posted by DJAuto
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09-28-2008, 11:42 AM #8deracate chinese frower
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yes count the bar - I don't think the bar is counted with a e-z bar (curls for eg) but if it's an Olympic bar then it's counted - it's 45lbs (20kgs) why wouldn't you count it.Originally Posted by Valkinator
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09-28-2008, 11:48 AM #9Registered User
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Because I'm old and senile? Geez, my stats are bette than I thought they were then. Thanks for the info!Originally Posted by Mindi911
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09-28-2008, 11:51 AM #10deracate chinese frower
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Originally Posted by Valkinator
LOL well it's ok ole timer 
we're here to help.
just kidding...
Exactly! Look at your numbers again and you soon realise it's not as bad as you think.
45lbs is a lot of weight not count.Perfection in mind, perfect body!
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09-28-2008, 11:56 AM #11Registered User
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What you count is what you lift. If you don't know how much a bar weighs, ask someone who does. Especially when you are a beginner, 10-20 pounds makes a difference.
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09-28-2008, 05:16 PM #12Registered User
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Thank you!
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09-28-2008, 05:50 PM #13Pain
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hahaha cant forget to incorporate velocity and distance lmaoOriginally Posted by DJAuto
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09-30-2008, 03:15 PM #14Registered User
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Thanks young stuff!! I feel downright Herculean already!!! LOLOriginally Posted by Mindi911
LOL well it's ok ole timer we're here to help.
just kidding...
Exactly! Look at your numbers again and you soon realise it's not as bad as you think.
45lbs is a lot of weight not count.POOR But Honest BOB
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09-30-2008, 04:23 PM #15Banned
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I count the bar for barbell work, and one of my gyms includes the weight of the bar on their DB's, whic are plate loaded.They have 7's, 12's, 18's, 22's, 28's, 33's, 38's...etc.
When pushing sleds of sorts I usually don't know the weight of the sled, so I don't count it.
My journal entries on leg press are like that. EG: 3 sets, 12 reps @ 3 plates/side.
Just sayin'.
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09-30-2008, 05:01 PM #16dumbbells rock!
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if you lift it you count it. ez curl bar or not. hell i even add collars
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09-30-2008, 05:08 PM #17Petro Ninjineer
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doesn't change the weight. you'll just know how many newtons it takes to lift that weight.Originally Posted by Mr Bounce
Oil do it.
LOL well it's ok ole timer 
we're here to help.
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