alright then i'm an all around athlete
boxing takes hand speed not running speed, how you move your arm faster with strength
soccer don't take much strength
baseball don't take strength or endurance
football don't take much endurence
basketball don't take much strength
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Thread: The Strongest Man Of All Time
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04-06-2003, 12:52 PM #151
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I've seen a 15 year old deadlift 440 lbs. first time ever touching a weight
I've witnessed a begginer increase there total 350 lbs. the first month
I myself can show you men bench pressing 821 lbs. men deadlifting nearly 940 lbs. men squatting 1104 lbs.
Powerlifting the sport of imposibility to Bodybuilders everywhere
Whats my post workout drink? half a bottle of Jack Daniels No. 7 sounds about right
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04-06-2003, 01:05 PM #152Originally posted by p0w3rlift3r
alright then i'm an all around athlete
boxing takes hand speed not running speed, how you move your arm faster with strength
soccer don't take much strength
baseball don't take strength or endurance
football don't take much endurence
basketball don't take much strength
soccer: you were the one who just made the strength-speed correlation....plus you need leg strength to jump and for speed bursts
baseball: you need strength for speed bursts and jumping...as well as large amounts of force created when swinging
football: this is hard to group as a sport....but....lineman...no not much endurance needed....all other positions...yes...endurance is needed
basketball: jumping and speed bursts requuire strengthAge: 18
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Bench: 335 x1(raw)
Squat: 435x3 (belt)
Deadlift: 435x3 (belt,straps)
Power Clean: 250x3(belt, straps)
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04-06-2003, 01:32 PM #153
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Originally posted by -T-
Ping pong is a sport. The competitors in ping pong usually don't even train any of the three...they only train their technique co-ordination.
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04-06-2003, 01:34 PM #154
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Originally posted by -T-
boxing: ok , fair enough....but for some people....running speed is important so you can run away from your opponant! (J/K!)
soccer: you were the one who just made the strength-speed correlation....plus you need leg strength to jump and for speed bursts
baseball: you need strength for speed bursts and jumping...as well as large amounts of force created when swinging
football: this is hard to group as a sport....but....lineman...no not much endurance needed....all other positions...yes...endurance is needed
basketball: jumping and speed bursts requuire strength
Lineman need endurance, 2 different forms of endurance.. there is anaerobic and aerobic endurance (speed/strength endurance, Cardiovascular endurance) you'll find that ALL postions will need speed/strength endurance rather then cardiovascular endurance. Your not running a 4k your running 100yrs at most, plus 25-45sec rest inbtween.
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04-06-2003, 06:15 PM #155
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04-06-2003, 06:16 PM #156Originally posted by FortifiedIron
Lineman need endurance, 2 different forms of endurance.. there is anaerobic and aerobic endurance (speed/strength endurance, Cardiovascular endurance) you'll find that ALL postions will need speed/strength endurance rather then cardiovascular endurance. Your not running a 4k your running 100yrs at most, plus 25-45sec rest inbtween.
KcAge: 18
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 260
All time personal best's:
Bench: 335 x1(raw)
Squat: 435x3 (belt)
Deadlift: 435x3 (belt,straps)
Power Clean: 250x3(belt, straps)
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04-06-2003, 07:24 PM #158
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Originally posted by -T-
Endurance is continuous movement for a long amount of time...no rests inbetween.
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04-06-2003, 08:10 PM #159
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04-06-2003, 10:06 PM #161
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Originally posted by DoctorX2k2
Hugo Girard
Its freaky, he works out with 2 other Strongmen, who are 2-3 in Canada, Hugo being #1 of course.
So far I have to go with Magnus Ver Magnuson, he won it 4 times and 3 straight, came back after an injury and won his 4th.
He won pretty convincingly as well IMHO.
I think if Hugo had not had food poisoning and injured himself, he would probably already be a 2 time Strongman Champion. But that is just speculating.
Oh and Hugo has the classic "gentle giant attitude".
www.hugogirard.com Really nice page with all his results.You can live a healthy life without Carbs.
You'll die if you eliminate proteins or fats.
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04-07-2003, 09:12 AM #162Originally posted by -T-
No i'm not a doctor (obviously)...but since when do you have to be a doctor to take or guesstimate bf%? Maybe in your fantasy world you have to be...
My fantasy world?? Wake up, Alice.
It proves that alot of PL'ers and WSM competitors are obese! Ya think!?! The second comment was more directed at bigpoppaproppy who was trying to defend WSM and saying that they train and compete in speed and endurance events. In my opinion, WSM is definately a sport, as it powerlifting, and olympic lifting.
Well you obviously hate on BB'ers. I'm not trying to defend them...but i don't like it when agendas are woven into arguments for unrelated topics. I am not a BB, btw.405/275/495 @ 181 lbs BW
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04-07-2003, 09:22 AM #163Originally posted by -T-
Oh my...where do i even start?
And from there i seemed to get alot of personally bashing from Anteaus and others.
- I personally think that WSM and PL'ers who have high levels of BF do not look like athletes, but that doesn't mean they are not athletes.
- I think to be called an athlete you should train all 4 parts of athleticism(speed, strength, endurance, flexability) with equal intensity and you should be somewhat able to compete at any sport with a decent amount of ability. Thus, PL'ers and WSM are not all-around athletes ****IMO****. They deserve their own term...something like "strength-athlete" (which seems apropriate to me because they only train strength but still somewhat posses ability in the other 3 areas).
Too bad all sports aren't exactly alike. Then your argument would make sense.405/275/495 @ 181 lbs BW
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04-07-2003, 09:29 AM #164
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04-07-2003, 04:00 PM #165
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04-08-2003, 06:30 AM #166
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04-08-2003, 01:34 PM #167
Ok I am retracting all of my statements about what effects bodyfat actually has on athleticism as well as all statements about how you have to train all 3 or 4 (whatever it was we decided on) aspects to be considered an athlete.
I was wrong.
However, i am going to keep my original opinion that people with high levels of bodyfat don't *look* like athletes to me. That is a personal opinion of mine, so i don't see how any decent, intelligent person would personally attack me for an opinion.
Thanks for the arguments and sorry to any of those that i offended!
-T-Age: 18
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 260
All time personal best's:
Bench: 335 x1(raw)
Squat: 435x3 (belt)
Deadlift: 435x3 (belt,straps)
Power Clean: 250x3(belt, straps)
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04-08-2003, 01:41 PM #168
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04-08-2003, 01:54 PM #169
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Originally posted by -T-
Ok I am retracting all of my statements about what effects bodyfat actually has on athleticism as well as all statements about how you have to train all 3 or 4 (whatever it was we decided on) aspects to be considered an athlete.
I was wrong.
However, i am going to keep my original opinion that people with high levels of bodyfat don't *look* like athletes to me. That is a personal opinion of mine, so i don't see how any decent, intelligent person would personally attack me for an opinion.
Thanks for the arguments and sorry to any of those that i offended!
-T-
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04-08-2003, 02:00 PM #170
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04-08-2003, 02:01 PM #171
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04-08-2003, 02:04 PM #172Originally posted by -T-
However, i am going to keep my original opinion that people with high levels of bodyfat don't *look* like athletes to me.AcetylCoA gets reps
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04-08-2003, 02:34 PM #173
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04-08-2003, 02:41 PM #174
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Originally posted by phreak
This thread has been a very... entertaining read. But on topic: IMO the strongest man (/athlete) of all time is Jonn Pall Sigmarsson. Four time world strongest man (84, 86, 88, 90). AND a great athlete.You can live a healthy life without Carbs.
You'll die if you eliminate proteins or fats.
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04-08-2003, 03:51 PM #175
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04-08-2003, 10:20 PM #176
well its hard to tell, for arms def...gah cant remmeber his name,, crazy fijian guy that always wore like war paint dont think it was manfred hoerbal but that comes ot mind for some reason?
As far as overall i think either Kaz (he was awesome in his time) or Magnus Ver MAgnussun, my fav. of all time too. Jouko Ahoula was strong for his size but he wasn't all that impressive to me.
Hugo Giard will get better wiht time hes still relatively new but hes got a ****in huge chest..
man thats a hard question....**** thisll have me htinkin for a long timethe greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesnt exist
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04-08-2003, 11:22 PM #177
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04-08-2003, 11:33 PM #178
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I'm going to see HUGO train this Saturday.
I'll let him know he has some fans here @ BB
BTW, I like last years 2002 WSM: MARIUSZ PUDIANOWSKI (see pic)
He's so cut, it is amazing to see in a strongmen, especially winning the biggest title of them all.You can live a healthy life without Carbs.
You'll die if you eliminate proteins or fats.
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04-09-2003, 12:01 AM #179
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