A friend of mine who is pretty built told me that chest press machine is almost the same thing as a flat bench press. And he also said that whatever weight you can lift on the machine, you can lift on the Flat Bench Press.
I'm a little skeptical to that however. I understand both exercises focus on the same muscle, but I think there are more factors when you are doing the bench press, like your stabilizing muscles or something. I assumed that you could probably lift a little less on the bench than on the machine. What do you guys think?
09-29-2008, 06:27 PM #1
Flat Bench Press vs. Chest Press Machine.
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A few months after I started going to the gym in 2002, I had worked up to 230 on one of the Hammer Strength chest machines. Wow, I thought, I'm really strong, guess it's finally time to take the plunge and try a free weight bench. Up to that point I had been strictly a machine user. Lady Luck must've been on my side, because I decided to start with only 95 pounds on the free weight bench. Needless to say, I was shocked - shocked! - to find out how heavy 95 pound with a barbell was, compared with more than twice that much on the machine. It was a struggle to complete even a single rep.
Ever since then, I've never really liked machines.
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Firstly, on a machine, you're more likely than not using the stabilizer muscles needed when doing free weights. Secondly - if using Hemmer Strength machine, you're only pushing outwards as opposed to actually lifting.
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09-30-2008, 12:11 AM #16
i used to triple 280 on HS incline press, and i couldn't bench more than 165.
now i do flat barbell bench on mondays, and 30-degree incline barbell bench on fridays as my first chest moves. considerably stronger now than i was when i leaned on HS as my main move.
having said that, machine presses can be AMAZING in conjunction with db presses or bb presses. stabilizers don't need much work to stay strong, so making your other press a machine move is a great way to be able to go all out dumping weight on a muscle.my workout journal:
09-30-2008, 12:29 AM #17
A good example would be. At my gym we use to have a machine press, and I once put it on 300 and did it 20 times. The most I have ever benched 300 in my life was 3 times. Even smith machines take a good amount of weight off with the pullys helping out, that and the fact the bar is 25 lbs or less. My advice for you if you are new to bodybuilding is to start off with free weights, and get all your form down correctly. I always do free weights before machines.
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your friend is terribadly wrong.
the difference between machines and free weights is; machines are stable, the only think you have to do is push them up (or pull etc), and whats greater and harder about a free weight is that you have to control the weight, balance it, and push it up and bring it back down yourself.
so there for free weights are g--g-g-g-g-g-godlike
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