My Keto Diet Manipulation : Part 2

[floridablonde]

Glad you rejoined me for part 2!! :0)
If you read part 1 and are amused, curious or excited...read below and you will see how this really does work for us Keto dieters!!

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d) OK, this is weird....
That morning after I hit bottom, I went to weigh. Holy crap. I lost 4lbs. Something I didn't expect to see. But then I thought.."ok..the doughnuts and milk wont show up till tomorrow." Then the next day I awoke and weighed, and another lb was lost. 2 days after the incident. I weighed...weighed again, went to the gym and weighed....ok...third time..I weighed...WTF!! I rubbed my eyes only to find that I had dropped a total of 5lbs. WTF!!!! I've lost 5lbs? And I sooooo didn't expect it.

e) Why did this happen?

Ok..freak incident right? I'm sure you can say it was "oh, normal thing, you were just that depleted and your body needed it, yeah, yeah.. it's water...it happens, blah, blah." Well, you are probably right on some level. I probably was depleted. I probably did need that dirty carb, and I probably was wrong somewhere in my calorie count along the line. But, none the less...this didn't happen to me just once, but several times in my CKD cycle. And for the next 6 months, I incorporated this little regimen in my diet, and lost more weight than what I was in the previous 4 months. I looked leaner, felt better, and somehow had this energy that was undescribable! But the thing is...i didn't do this once, twice or three times. But I did this once or twice a month to my diet. And I did this on top of my regular 2 week carb-up cycle. And it's worked everytime. I even have my clients do it, and they are amazed at the results.

f) So what are you saying

Ok...so what is this an excuse to go to Dunkin Doughnuts? Or give up and eat your weight in pizza? NO..it's not!!! You may think by me eating a KK doughnut during a NO CARB-UP phase that I wasn't doing it the Keto way. But actually I was. But I just did it differently.

g)What about Ketosis? What did it do to that?

Some want to know if I stayed in Ketosis with the doughnuts and milk. Well, not really. I was in the lightest of Ketosis. It knocked me from Mod/to high. Which is a huge change from always being in mod to mod high. Even after carb-ups, I always stayed in the mod to mod low zone. Never in the lower zone of almost 0.

h) What's Your Point..

WE ALL HAVE PLATEAUS, and sometimes we can avoid them not by just workouts alone, but by nutirition, and keeping our mind guessing and throwing it off before it throws our "bodies" off. I've found a way for those of us who have been on Keto for 3 months or more who are dealing with this "stalling" that I see so much on the board. What I've discovered is a cool way to manipulate your body, diet and mind to jump start your loss again.
This is what I call...Keto Manipulation.

i) What is Keto Manipulation

Ok, we all know that our minds know what we are going to do before our bodies know. We think before we speak or act. Well, it's the same way with dieting. If you are a strict dieter. Your body know when that CKD carb-up is coming. You work extra hard and find strength during that depletion with the thoughts of beer or cereal running thru your head. And you find amazing strength to go thru that workout and finish.
Your body feels foggy after a big carb-up and energy gets back to normal once you are back in that ketosis state. You sometimes look forward to full ketosis because you know you feel good. Some of us even dread the carb-up because we know how it makes us feel afterwards. So some even avoid it. It' s a choice. And we all have our different plans. For those of us who enjoy our carb-ups and enjoy those Football game day beers, pizzas, crackers and nachos...this is for you...so read on.


j) How it works:

Ok, for those on CKD here's the scoop. For those on a 2 week carb-up phase this is for you. You are going to do a carb-up, just not dirty when it's time to carb-up. You will eat clean. Probably only 40g of carbs for a 12hr window.
You will resume your workouts as normal the next day, or that evening. However you do it. The next week you will do a large carb-up in the MORNING (3 hour window) of only of 60g or less of carbs. (yes, they have those out there) Thats it. Nothing more, nothing less. You will work out as normal, and maybe even a little harder during the day/evening if you like. But you will cut off carbs after that 3 hour window. And you will resume a day of high protein eating. I would actually lower your fats the rest of the day as well. Since you will get fats in that 3 hour window.

k) What kind of Food are you talking about?

Your carbs need to consist of GI carbs like desserts, cookies, sugar doughnuts, juice drink, pancakes w/syrup and butter, cereal, pizza, caramel, chocolate syrup, ice cream, yogurt, etc. Things you would normally "dirty" eat. Things that have sugar in them. But you do this for only a short 3 hours and only between 7-11am or upon waking. Then you flush it down with water. DONT eat bacon, or anything high in fat with this. Your breakfast is sugar for just those 3 hours. No more, no less. So dont eat eggs, bacon and sausage, and then turn around and do this. sooooo messed up then! Also, I dont recommend you indulge in to much dairy in those 3 hours. A scoop of ice cream is fine, or glass of milk. But dont eat 5 fudge pops, a gallon of milk, and a sundae. I find swee desserts, hi gi fruits, pastries w/natural and artifical sugars are the best!


l) HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND?..

Maybe I have, but I've lost a lot of weight with it. So have my clients. I've been told by a few doctors that your body doesn't need sugar and doesn't process it correctly during a carb-up phase. That the fiber, and the carbs go straight to where your body needs it, and sugar is almost bypassed. So, the best time to get sugar is 1) early in the morning, and not eat sugars along with healthly carby foods. Let the sugary foods be a "present" to yourself and enjoy them for a few hours, by themselves. So, thats what I've done. It makes sense by looking at it doesn't it? We are told by nutritionists (including me) that the best time to have sugar is early in the morning due to your bodies way of processing it. Dont have it in the day when your body's metabolism is slowing down. If you research sugar intake, when people get fat is when they abuse the sugar intake, and dont adiquately adjust their diet to help maintain a healthy lifestyle w/proteins, carbs, fats, etc. There are some people who just live off candy bars...trust me. I've SEEN THEM! lol

m) How is this done?

Sometimes I do this (Manipulation Day) a few days after a carb-up, and sometimes a few days before. I NEVER have a set day and I mix it up every 2 weeks or so. Sometimes just once a month, sometimes 2 times a month. And the beauty of it is... I ALWAYS lose MORE after I do this. I've never gained more than 1lb by doing this. And if I do gain a pound, I lose it within 48 hrs. Because...the sugar that went in went straight to glycogen & was depeleted within my normal workout regimens just24 hours later. Majority of time I NEVER gained weight from it. And when I did it DAYS before my carb-up, I found that I didn't nearly gain the weight from the carb-up as I did just doing the straight dirty/clean carb up on CKD.

I've been told that the sugar made my body jumpstart to burn more fat. And hense really cut me around the middle, and I felt my workouts IMMEDIATELY folliwn the 3 hour window, were the best of the week. I had energy even days after doing this, allowing my carb-ups to be smaller, healthier and not going overboard with sugars.Gave me more energy to burn, and also "fed" my body in ways that will help in aid fat loss. Sugar is nice and can be our friend..IF you MANIPULATE it to be.

Dont confuse this with TKD. It's NOT TKD. Unless you want to eat a brownie before and after you go do a heavy weight training session every other day. If you do this and are able to lose fat..well, then I want your body and your metabolism to be able to burn that off every day!!! If you have that..then send me a message...because you so ROCK!

But seriously, what I'm saying is...Manipulate your diet occasionally. Dont be afraid to switch from CKD to TKD for a month or so either. Or stick with CKD, and throw your diet a curve ball now and then. The occasional "WTF" for your body is sometimes good! For some, treking off the "laid out plan" may throw you off and really mess up your week. And if you are a schedule person like me, thats fine! Make a plan for your Manipulation day.

n) Here is what I did...

I secrelty had a "Manipulation Day Diet plan" hidden away in a folder when I needed it. It was a colored sheet of paper, that had a random sugary snack, that equaled out to 50-60g of carbs and usually 30g of sugar or less. I'd pull out sheet, eat what was listed. Then toss it. I would NEVER see the sheet behind it to let me know what my next "manipulation day snack" would be. It was like it was a "secret code" for a missle launch. I hid it from myself, and when I realized.."ok..I'm in the slump mode, I'm hitting the wall." I'd go pull it out, follow it to a T, then destroy it. A little silly I know, but it was something I only used for times such as that. So everytime I pulled the sheet out, it was a surprise. Usually, I had a friend make them up for me, and have her follow the guidelines as to how many calories, carbs, sugars so she wouldn't exceed that. See, my diet has revolved around an eating/workout journal, and daily/weekly menus. If I stray from those..I can easily screw up. So, I'm one of those people who RARELY thinks out of the box! lol


o) Dont knock it before you try it....

So go ahead if you are in that slump. What do you have to gain that you haven't before after a carb-up. If you work out and eat sensibly the rest of the day...you will be fine. It's not going to harm you to have a caramel sundae with sprinkles at 9am, and then go and workout immediately following. You may find your energy is that of a Venom Hyperdrive pill, and you will see that you will actually be peeing more! That sugar is going to go where it needs to, to fill up those gaps that weren't filled up in your carb-up prior. Give it a chance, and try it when you feel you need that extra kick. But let me reitterate...."YOU NEED TO BE WORKING OUT AND DOING HARD WORKOUTS, or the sugar may turn on you. Dont just be sitting there doing nothing after you eat this. You dont have to eat then run to the gym, but at least workout within 8 hours of doing this. When you do this correctly, you will reap the awards. But as with anything....do it smartly.

****Disclaimer***

I know some of you are shaking your head at me like.."CRAZY WOMAN!!! Whats wrong with her!!!???!! Has the brain fog taken over??" Well, I maybe crazy! But, from July 07-June 08 I lost 100 lbs in less than a year on keto. The last 80lbs of that 100lbs were done with Manipulation days incorporated.

This past July/August, I took a break for a month of dieting due to surgery on my leg and not able to exercise and give my body a break. I managed to only gain 3lbs. At the end of August I started back to keto and lost even more by doing keto and adding manipulation days in again. I'm now reaching my 120lbs of weight loss. And now I only gain about 1-2lbs during carb-ups and lose around 3 to 5 pounds of what I gain. I have 5 clients on Keto, all whom swear by this method.

My suggestion is..before you call me out, or say I'm CRAZY...just try it once or twice. But, as I said...take it easy, and do it SMARTLY! The hardest part you've already done in Keto...starting it, mantaiing it, and sticking with it. Come on..how hard is it to stop by Starbucks and buy a White Chocolate Mocha and a pastry? ;-) Enjoy..and thank me later! :0)

Please if you have comments, I'd love to hear them PM or email!

Happy Eating!

[vgbblife]

So you basically eat anything you want that consists of sugar not going past 40 or so carbs at most 3 hours before a workout once every 2 weeks or so and a few days before a carbup?

[floridablonde]

Originally Posted by vgbblife

So you basically eat anything you want that consists of sugar not going past 40 or so carbs at most 3 hours before a workout once every 2 weeks or so and a few days before a carbup?

Yes, something with sugar, and maybe low in fat. Sometimes I will do the small powdered doughnuts, or do a honey bun, or something along those lines. Something with sugar and is a "special treat." Some people have asked if I eat popcorn, or anything like that. No I dont eat anything like that. I will eat 2 Peanut Butter cups, or a twix, or a snickers or something like that. Heck, I ate 40 pieces of candy corn a week back, and I was fine. Right now it's Halloween candy time, and I was able to eat the "miniature" candy pieces. 4 milky ways, or twix, or snickers is the equivalent to a large twix or a large snickers. And those did fine. Sometimes I will eat a bowl of frosted flakes with a bananna, or go eat Ben and Jerry's ice cream (small scoop). Anything that isn't sugar free.
Just do it smartly and dont injest what you cant burn off. But the trick is to eat the sugar in the morning, first thing. Then go burn it off in the afternoon or late night. Trust me..you will FEEL the energy rush! Its awesome.

Most of my clients never leave ketosis. Esp those inthe moderate to high range. When they do have sugar it dips them in low enough in ketosis that it keeps the body in a metabolic state. Where you aren't DEEP in ketosis, but you aren't out of it yet. Just dips low enough to "refeed" the body for a short time. And since sugars or carbs are depeleted quickly, a small amount of sugar first thing in the morning can be depleted (told by dr) by late evening if adequate exercise is performed. And the benefits of the sugar (metabolism speed) can be found even 24hrs after injesting sugar. So see...sugar isn't all that bad.....

Hope this helps.

[bigg_K]

Originally Posted by floridablonde

g)What about Ketosis? What did it do to that?

Some want to know if I stayed in Ketosis with the doughnuts and milk. Well, not really. I was in the lightest of Ketosis. It knocked me from Mod/to high. Which is a huge change from always being in mod to mod high. Even after carb-ups, I always stayed in the mod to mod low zone. Never in the lower zone of almost 0.

I don't know about the rest, but at least with Ketosis there is no "light" Ketosis or "high ketosis." Ketosis is a different way for your body to metabolize fat into energy. It's either on or off.

I am not sure how you judge what state of Ketosis you are in, but if it is Ketostix, then that has more to do with your hydration level.

[floridablonde]

Originally Posted by konradac

I don't know about the rest, but at least with Ketosis there is no "light" Ketosis or "high ketosis." Ketosis is a different way for your body to metabolize fat into energy. It's either on or off.

I am not sure how you judge what state of Ketosis you are in, but if it is Ketostix, then that has more to do with your hydration level.

Various Ketostix (Mine by Bayer) level your color by how high on the scale you are as level of Keto. Ranges from light to dark in levels of colors, so yes... you can be showing VARIOUS levels of producing ketones. And I agree, yes it CAN depend on your hydration. Someone who is not drinknig enough and is dehydrated can be in higher color. But that can quickly be fixed with drinking adjustments. Someone who drinks double their weight in water all day and actually DILUTE the concentration of ketones. Here they maybe in ketosis but can tell via stix due to the large amounts of water they are taking in. ( I have seen this happen).

Ketostix only measure EXCESS ketones in the Urine and shouldn't be 100% reliable. Thats why I love to use my gluclose meter, and do that more than Ketostix. So yes, you can have various CONCENTRATIONS or LEVELS of Ketosis depending on What system you are using you to test whether it be meter, blood test or ketostix. Even doctors will say.."you are ketosis and in a very high stage." When I go see my doc every month, he will give me a low, med, or high range. Thats what Endocrine docs do when they are evaluating your diet and medical conditions and see you are in Ketosis. To high of a concentration via blood and they ask me to carb up. Especially if I'm in that state for more than a week. Even in the lowest of levels or traces, if ketones are present, you ARE in ketosis. For those using sticks, just because you are in light pink, doesn't mean your body isn't using fat for energy. IT IS! Ketosis iswhat it is. And for some, you may be testing negative but really are. Very lean people and very over active people CAN testnegative but really be inketosis.Ketostix are an important tool, but don?t invest all your emotion into them

And by the way for those readers who think the darkest color is the best, remember...the best fat loss is best with only traces of ketones so don?t make it a hobby to try to reach very deep colors! For epilepsy patients, this appears to be crucial to the success of the diet since high levels of ketones seem to be very important to controlled epilepsy.

So drink your water, watch your carbs, but dont DROWN yourself in water to where you can die!!

Hope this helps, and understand that you CAN have, and catagorize "high levels or concentrations" of ketones in the body that can reflect your test results and catagorize you in zone levels of neg, low, mod, high, or very high. If we didn't have these levels, diabetics wouldn't be able to monitor their levels to sway them from having ketoacidosis. Whether it be ketosix, blood test or glucose meter purchased from walgreens.

Happy Eating!

[RU4A69]

Originally Posted by konradac

I don't know about the rest, but at least with Ketosis there is no "light" Ketosis or "high ketosis." Ketosis is a different way for your body to metabolize fat into energy. It's either on or off.

I am not sure how you judge what state of Ketosis you are in, but if it is Ketostix, then that has more to do with your hydration level.

2 be fair-

There are varying levels of ketosis. Even on a mixed diet, you may show keto positive after intense exercise. Blood ketone levels on a fast, for instance, are much higher than during a prolonged keto diet.

The keto strips test positive after your keto levels are around 1-2 (i forget the specs). After a fast or prolonged keto diet, they can get as high as 4-6.

So indeed there is light and high ketosis, but you're right about hydration being an issue.

[panakamana]

well to be honest i always have 24-36 hour dirty carb ups every weekend and i mean dirty ones, 600g + donuts, pizza, cakes, pastries, ice cream i even love water with sugar in it. And as a matter of fact i even still lose weight. I dont know what is going on but it works for me. Of course my weekday is extremely strict with 30g carbs or less, tons of fibrous veggies and a proportionated fat - protein macro.

greetings,

[bblain26]

Sounds like what you're describing is a "metabolism shock." It shouldn't really matter what your cheat meal or cheat day consists of, as long as you return to your normal eating patterns after you cheat. Then depending on your level of fitness or where you are in your weight loss goals, you may wait a full week to cheat again, or maybe only 5 days, or maybe have 2 cheat meals a week as long as they are 3 days apart. Whatever the case, it spikes your metabolism back to higher levels and prepares you for your next round of "eating clean" or "low carb" and or whatever the case may be, as well as the next round of working your butt off. It's also a good way to relieve any feelings of deprivation we may have while eating so healthy. :-) Anyway, it's so common to mistakenly feel guilty and think we might gain weight when in reality the spike in metabolism is just what our bodies and our needed to kick some serious fat!