second cycle, cutting, advice welcome

[ripped427]

so i am starting my second cycle which will consist of test prop tren ace and dbol.
my first cycle was 6 weeks of prop 100mg eod and 2 weeks of m1t at 10mg.
this was last year about this time. gained 20lbs and kept 18(pretty good!)

the cycle i am planning on doing will be
test prop 1-6 150mg eod
tren ace 1-5 75mg eod
dbol 2 weeks 40mg ed

i have a solid diet and training schedule, the only thing i will change while being on cycle is 4 total extra sets for a muscle. so one extra set per exercise. i will be using 1 1/2-2 minutes rest inbetween sets and also adding 30 minutes of cardio 5 days a week after my work out. its not really a cutting cycle but more less lose like5 lbs of fat. i'm not really down on cals as i will be takingin around 3500(give or take 500cals) a day.

first time with tren so i hope for good gains.
I am using the dbols cause i have some left over so i figer why not. not left over from a cycle but from what a buddy gave me from his last cycle, so i figer why not use them? i've heard of ppl using them with tren for good gains.

for pct i will shoot hcg 5000iu at week 7 and also start my clomid 50mg ed and nolvadex 20mg ed for 5-6 weeks(when ever it runs out, i think 5 1/2 weeks)

comments welcome. thanks! ALSO i heard tren burns lol so any advice on minimizing the pain, would be greatful

[put5onyo]

Not sure if you are a troll or not but...

Tren on second cycle is not a good idea. Too many potential side effects and at 21 you don't need to be messing with something that strong anyways.

Dbol on a cutting cycle? I know diet/cardio have more to do with what happens but Dbol is not gonna help you cut one bit.

[ripped427]

i know that dbol wont help me cut, but its not like it puts on fat, just water bloat, so a couple weeks after dbol, i figer the water should be gone. just had some lyin around so i figer why not use it, its good for quick strength gains.
and no i am not a troll lol.
its not really a cutting cycle, rather a lean gain cycle...dunno why i put cutting in there, but its no bulk cycle if ur wondering.
just wondering really on doses. thanks

[nosnmvieins]

Originally Posted by put5onyo

Not sure if you are a troll or not but...

Tren on second cycle is not a good idea. Too many potential side effects and at 21 you don't need to be messing with something that strong anyways.

i somewhat disagree with this. tren should not be run by just the average joe looking to get huge. but, if u can tolerate tren, then u can tolerate it. i personally would like to know if i could tolerate it sooner rather than later down the road

[kustej]

dbol can be used for either bulking or cutting, depending on diet. I plan on incorporating it when I do a cut, because from my experience it suppresses appetite and greatly increases energetic-ness

[ripped427]

ya, i rather see if i can handle the tren now, then later on. It would suck knowing i could use this incredible gear to gain sick lean gains. i am not doing 100mg eod which i hear is the starting point? so 75mg to see whats up with tren, and 150mg prop with some dbols to kick it off, i should get some nice gains. i'll keep u all updated!

dbol i can see being in a cutting cycle not only for those reasons but since it raises ur strength pretty dam good lol i'd say u wouldn't lose any strength and maybe gain some?

thanks