MyTosterone??

[Bmaster]

Just read this article from supplement genius, looks promising. Anyone have any more info on this??

http://www.supplementgenius.com/2008...by-50-percent/

[eldawg]

http://www.jissn.com/content/5/1/12

[yeashescool]

Yea, it will do nothing.

[nni]

http://www.jissn.com/content/5/1/12

ineresting

[SPACECLOWN]

Like to hear Pat's thoughts on this.

[Peter LeDrew]

ineresting

x2!

[Crappero]

Anyone have any luck finding more info about this?

[Bmaster]

there might be hope for us "older guys" after all, lol!!

[chainsaw]

Intresting.

Astaxanthin and Saw Palmetto.

[bryan101b]

Yea, it will do nothing.

funny you say this, the article states it raised T levels and lowered Es levels at 2000 mg. I dont know if it increased it all by 50% but it increased none the less. so how did you come to this conclusion?

now, where can I buy some to try it out on my next pct too see how it raises T levels.

[Chimpinzo]

bump and keeping my post here to tag the thread.

I wonder if it'd have hormonal consequences if someone 21- took it ? o_O

If not it could be used similarly to a PH I suppose. Depending on the side effects

[bryan101b]

bump and keeping my post here to tag the thread.

I wonder if it'd have hormonal consequences if someone 21- took it ? o_O

If not it could be used similarly to a PH I suppose. Depending on the side effects

it might cause hormonal problems maybe if you used a strong A.I with it, lack of E with high levels of T may send a signal to your hpta to slow down production to try to balance it, it would be like a catch 22 since it increases T naturally, you would see a big boost at first, but then once your body notices the above normal levels it would slow down production, leading you to take more, and so on. this is of course just my hypothesis. makes sense to me. thats why ph/ps/ds/aas are able to work after shut down, they are an outside source of T or some form and dont need your hpta to produce T to work. who knows what the answer is, we'll have to wait for a long term study to come out, if ever one does.

[Chimpinzo]

it might cause hormonal problems maybe if you used a strong A.I with it, lack of E with high levels of T may send a signal to your hpta to slow down production to try to balance it, it would be like a catch 22 since it increases T naturally, you would see a big boost at first, but then once your body notices the above normal levels it would slow down production, leading you to take more, and so on. this is of course just my hypothesis. makes sense to me. thats why ph/ps/ds/aas are able to work after shut down, they are an outside source of T or some form and dont need your hpta to produce T to work. who knows what the answer is, we'll have to wait for a long term study to come out, if ever one does.

True, I just like debating issues like this :P

One thing you'd wonder though... If it increases T levels, I bet they would have found a way to prevent down regulation, or else they'd end up giving out HORRENDOUS doses of this stuff to people to try to keep up with long term dosages. I'd find it a tad absurd if they were giving out T boosting meds, and saying. Take it for 1 week, every 3 weeks to prevent downregulation. Wouldn't the hormone spiking/dropping cause problems on its own?

[bryan101b]

True, I just like debating issues like this :P

One thing you'd wonder though... If it increases T levels, I bet they would have found a way to prevent down regulation, or else they'd end up giving out HORRENDOUS doses of this stuff to people to try to keep up with long term dosages. I'd find it a tad absurd if they were giving out T boosting meds, and saying. Take it for 1 week, every 3 weeks to prevent downregulation. Wouldn't the hormone spiking/dropping cause problems on its own?

for normal people it would. but if it was a "medication" as you put it, it would be for people who have low T production, or some other problem where they need the positive effects of T. If it was over the counter, well, heh, look at any other herbal T booster, they all do the same thing. lol.

[Chimpinzo]

If it was over the counter Chimp would load up :P

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[runfgio]

I found this site when I googled mytosterone... these are the people that created it.

http://www.triarco.com/news.asp

It's got a link to the mytosterone study on there too. It will increase testosterone without the usual effects (like estrogen levels going up too, hair loss, etc.). Looks really interesting, anyone tried it?

[kappaz]

I found this site when I googled mytosterone... these are the people that created it.

http://www.triarco.com/news.asp

It's got a link to the mytosterone study on there too. It will increase testosterone without the usual effects (like estrogen levels going up too, hair loss, etc.). Looks really interesting, anyone tried it?

"Triarco President Rodger Rohde Jr. confirmed that the company is in the final stages of
negotiation with one the world?s leading sports of MyTosterone? in sports nutrition products.

Triarco is inviting manufacturers interested in product development opportunities still
available for MyTosterone? to inquire at info@triarco.com, or to schedule a meeting
with a Triarco representative at the upcoming SupplySide West on October 22 ? 24th at
the Venetian and Sands Expo in Las Vegas, Nevada. "

[chainsaw]

Bump

[Lager1]

why the f*ck does everythiing have to reduce DHT

[chainsaw]

Triarco trademarked the product MyTosterone as "AlphaStat" and it can be found by Nature's Plus.

[SPACECLOWN]

Triarco trademarked the product MyTosterone as "AlphaStat" and it can be found by Nature's Plus.

Odd looking at their Alphastat? Rx-Prostate Softgels it includes below. Can't be the same thing.

Alphastat? 200 mg ?
(patented complex of Serenoa
repens fruit extract and Haematococcus pluvialis algae extract,
providing free fatty acids and astaxanthin)

[chainsaw]

Read the article above, is says AlphaStat (MyTosterone)

http://www.naturalproductsinsider.co.../1a1news7.html

[hyp_gnosis]

If you look at the ingredients of Muscletech's Cryotest you will see they have used Mytosterone in the formula without referencing the trademarked ingredients.

Keep an eye open for Serenoa Repens & Haematococcus Pluvialis extract (Astaxanthin).

http://www.muscletech.com/products/c..._suppfacts.gif

[Herc1218]

When is this going to be available on the market?

[Robboe]

http://www.jissn.com/content/5/1/12

Why was there no control group?

[Robboe]

it might cause hormonal problems maybe if you used a strong A.I with it, lack of E with high levels of T may send a signal to your hpta to slow down production to try to balance it, it would be like a catch 22 since it increases T naturally, you would see a big boost at first, but then once your body notices the above normal levels it would slow down production, leading you to take more, and so on. this is of course just my hypothesis. makes sense to me. thats why ph/ps/ds/aas are able to work after shut down, they are an outside source of T or some form and dont need your hpta to produce T to work. who knows what the answer is, we'll have to wait for a long term study to come out, if ever one does.

I'm not convinced a 21 year old would notice anything testosterone-wise.

[chainsaw]

When is this going to be available on the market?

It is available on the market and dirt cheap, I got 90/200mg capsules of AlphaStat -Mytosterone for $9. That is a 22 day supply at 800mg a day. PM me and I will give you the hook up.

[Roun3er]

why the f*ck does everythiing have to reduce DHT

Lol, at least you will keep your hairline in tact.

Seems almost counter productive to reduce DHT while claiming to increase testosterone, as DHT tends to be a more potent androgen than testosterone itself, usually as much as 3-5 times more potent. Test is converted to the active androgen DHT by enzyme 5alpha reductase (5-AR), which in turn seems couterproductive to me depending on how much of a hit DHT levels take in the 1st place from supplementing with this compound.

That being said.......makes me wonder.

It may be possible that testosterone levels increase because this compound MAY block that conversion from testosterone to DHT....hence the elevated Test and suppressed DHT levels.

Also, how would it effect free testosterone(if it does at all)

People see....INCREASE IN TESTOSTERONE and automatically think. That's great!!! But there are other questions that need to be answered. It is not as simple as....More Test=better gains.

[Roun3er]

Lol, at least you will keep your hairline in tact.

Seems almost counter productive to reduce DHT while claiming to increase testosterone, as DHT tends to be a more potent androgen than testosterone itself, usually as much as 3-5 times more potent. Test is converted to the active androgen DHT by enzyme 5alpha reductase (5-AR), which in turn seems couterproductive to me depending on how much of a hit DHT levels take in the 1st place from supplementing with this compound.

That being said.......makes me wonder.

It may be possible that testosterone levels increase because this compound MAY block that conversion from testosterone to DHT....hence the elevated Test and suppressed DHT levels.

Also, how would it effect free testosterone(if it does at all)

People see....INCREASE IN TESTOSTERONE and automatically think. That's great!!! But there are other questions that need to be answered. It is not as simple as....More Test=better gains.

Can't seem to find any useful studies about the actual effects on DHT or the effects on test conversion to DHT....will keep looking.

[muruku]

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU25...LAID=129499728
swanson makes one, cheap too