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    Serious question for my foreign bro's here

    Why such an obsession with Obama and our election when you can't even vote in it to begin with?

    I mean seriously I never see any american's going on message boards having orgasms say over a candidate from France and debating people till they are blue in the face that he or she is the second coming of god and will save the world.

    I don't know just seems like you guys are kind of wasting your time on this. Your opinion won't make any difference but your vote can but problem is you can't vote in this.

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    because the leader of america is still the most powerful and influential leader in the world and he's decisions will have enormous impacts on most countries in the world, esspecially relating to economics

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    Lion, you are very unaware.

    I'm swear I need to make a thread about this because I have to repeat myself too many times.

    The reason that I, and other foreigners care about American politics and the election is because bills passed and decisions made in Washington not only affect the 300+ million Americans, but hundreds of millions across the globe. The reason I care about American politics is because I care about 100 000 innocent Iraqi civilian casualties. I care about Iran acquiring nuclear weapons. I care about the capture of bin Laden. I am truly grateful that it is the U.S.A. that is the world's superpower, and not a communist country such as China or Russia. I want America to be the sole superpower for as long as I live, but I fear that this won't happen.

    Over the last 8 years, you Americans have given up so much of your power and influence. We foreigners may have thought that some Americans were loud or arrogant, but we never doubted for a second that Americans and the U.S.A. were good with honest intentions. We loved you guys. That changed after Bush's disaster in the Middle East. He was wrong about WMD's. He was wrong about Sadam. He was wrong about Iraq. What was even more shocking to us, is that despite all of Bush's failures, Americans decided in '04 that he was still fit to be president. That's when anti-Americanism really took off. How could Americans re-elect a man that is engaged in an unjust and unnecessary war that is bankrupting them and ending thousands of lives? How could they re-elect a man that is trying to take away their freedoms? It was then that we began to doubt the intentions of the American people, and anti-Americanism flourished across the globe.

    Americans have now reached another test. They have two options. They can either choose a man that falls right in line with Bush. A man that has roughly the same foreign policies that have destroyed America's standing in the world. Or, they could choose a man that has the right foreign policies. A man who will restore America's global standing. If Obama is elected president, this will prove to us that Americans have learned from the horrible decision they made in 2000 and 2004. We are desparate to love Americans again. Desperate because we believe you guys are good people. If Obama is elected, anti-Americanism will almost entirely cease overnight.

    Americans failed the Bush vs. Gore test.

    Americans failed the Bush vs. Kerry test.

    DO NOT fail the McCain vs. Obama test.

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    Originally Posted by revkins View Post
    Lion, you are very unaware.

    I'm swear I need to make a thread about this because I have to repeat myself too many times.

    The reason that I, and other foreigners care about American politics and the election is because bills passed and decisions made in Washington not only affect the 300+ million Americans, but hundreds of millions across the globe. The reason I care about American politics is because I care about 100 000 innocent Iraqi civilian casualties. I care about Iran acquiring nuclear weapons. I care about the capture of bin Laden. I am truly grateful that it is the U.S.A. that is the world's superpower, and not a communist country such as China or Russia. I want America to be the sole superpower for as long as I live, but I fear that this won't happen.

    Over the last 8 years, you Americans have given up so much of your power and influence. We foreigners may have thought that some Americans were loud or arrogant, but we never doubted for a second that Americans and the U.S.A. were good with honest intentions. We loved you guys. That changed after Bush's disaster in the Middle East. He was wrong about WMD's. He was wrong about Sadam. He was wrong about Iraq. What was even more shocking to us, is that despite all of Bush's failures, Americans decided in '04 that he was still fit to be president. That's when anti-Americanism really took off. How could Americans re-elect a man that is engaged in an unjust and unnecessary war that is bankrupting them and ending thousands of lives? How could they re-elect a man that is trying to take away their freedoms? It was then that we began to doubt the intentions of the American people, and anti-Americanism flourished across the globe.

    Americans have now reached another test. They have two options. They can either choose a man that falls right in line with Bush. A man that has roughly the same foreign policies that have destroyed America's standing in the world. Or, they could choose a man that has the right foreign policies. A man who will restore America's global standing. If Obama is elected president, this will prove to us that Americans have learned from the horrible decision they made in 2000 and 2004. We are desparate to love Americans again. Desperate because we believe you guys are good people. If Obama is elected, anti-Americanism will almost entirely cease overnight.

    Americans failed the Bush vs. Gore test.

    Americans failed the Bush vs. Kerry test.

    DO NOT fail the McCain vs. Obama test.
    Transparent foolishness this is.


    Originally Posted by Lion Heart View Post
    Why such an obsession with Obama and our election when you can't even vote in it to begin with?

    I mean seriously I never see any american's going on message boards having orgasms say over a candidate from France and debating people till they are blue in the face that he or she is the second coming of god and will save the world.

    I don't know just seems like you guys are kind of wasting your time on this. Your opinion won't make any difference but your vote can but problem is you can't vote in this.
    The biggest reason is because they've been influenced by the media who has a socialist stance and if you ever watch the BBC it's bend towards socialism is unbelievable, for the most part Obama is like a socialist European leader.
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    Originally Posted by Lion Heart View Post
    Why such an obsession with Obama and our election when you can't even vote in it to begin with?

    I mean seriously I never see any american's going on message boards having orgasms say over a candidate from France and debating people till they are blue in the face that he or she is the second coming of god and will save the world.

    I don't know just seems like you guys are kind of wasting your time on this. Your opinion won't make any difference but your vote can but problem is you can't vote in this.
    You're politics has an affect on all of us both positive and negative.
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    Originally Posted by rockyl686 View Post
    Transparent foolishness this is.




    The biggest reason is because they've been influenced by the media who has a socialist stance and if you ever watch the BBC it's bend towards socialism is unbelievable, for the most part Obama is like a socialist European leader.


    My only hope is that the blind and foolish, such as yourself, that helped Bush destroy your country in 8 years time, are in the minority for this election.

    America will move on. America will regain it's power and influence. America is better than what the GOP has done to it.

    You are on the wrong side of history. You are trying to hold your country back. You are fighting a losing battle. Your country is too strong for you.
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    Originally Posted by Wussy View Post
    What happens in vegas may stay in vegas but what happens in D.C happens everywhere else in the world too.
    Hey man, calm the Wussy in the closet. If Obama decides to go down on a guy, it does not mean you have to do too.

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    I deal with USD in my part time job, so the American economy directly effects the money in my wallet. The USA, greatly effects what is happening in Canada and I like to be informed on what's going on. I spend a good amount of time down in the states, and my parents are down there 2-3 months/ year. They are very in to politics in both the States, and Canada so we end up discussing it quite a bit.
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    Originally Posted by Lucky_ROA View Post
    . . . it does not mean you have to do too.
    That doesn't even make sense

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    Originally Posted by revkins View Post
    My only hope is that the blind and foolish, such as yourself, that helped Bush destroy your country in 8 years time, are in the minority for this election.

    America will move on. America will regain it's power and influence. America is better than what the GOP has done to it.

    You are on the wrong side of history. You are trying to hold your country back. You are fighting a losing battle. Your country is too strong for you.
    lol back for another pummeling

    See there's only one problem with your premise here and that is your under the misconception that somehow conservative ideology is what is resulted in this happening, anyone with a firm grasp of history understands this not to be so .
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    Originally Posted by rockyl686 View Post
    lol back for another pummeling

    See there's only one problem with your premise here and that is your under the misconception that somehow conservative ideology is what is resulted in this happening, anyone with a firm grasp of history understands this not to be so .

    I never said that conservative idealogy was the problem. I believe Ron Paul would've been a great president.

    The problem with your country's politics is the new breed of republicans. The ones that pander to people like you, claiming that they are fiscally conservative, when their actions, once they attain power, are completely the opposite of what they promised. It's sad that you and people like you, will continue to believe them, no matter how many times they lie to you. McCain isn't fiscally conservative. He is as fiscally conservative as Bush.

    Don't allow yourself to be pandered to. Don't allow yourself to be fooled again. You are smarter than this.

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    Originally Posted by revkins View Post
    Lion, you are very unaware.

    I'm swear I need to make a thread about this because I have to repeat myself too many times.

    The reason that I, and other foreigners care about American politics and the election is because bills passed and decisions made in Washington not only affect the 300+ million Americans, but hundreds of millions across the globe. The reason I care about American politics is because I care about 100 000 innocent Iraqi civilian casualties. I care about Iran acquiring nuclear weapons. I care about the capture of bin Laden. I am truly grateful that it is the U.S.A. that is the world's superpower, and not a communist country such as China or Russia. I want America to be the sole superpower for as long as I live, but I fear that this won't happen.

    Over the last 8 years, you Americans have given up so much of your power and influence. We foreigners may have thought that some Americans were loud or arrogant, but we never doubted for a second that Americans and the U.S.A. were good with honest intentions. We loved you guys. That changed after Bush's disaster in the Middle East. He was wrong about WMD's. He was wrong about Sadam. He was wrong about Iraq. What was even more shocking to us, is that despite all of Bush's failures, Americans decided in '04 that he was still fit to be president. That's when anti-Americanism really took off. How could Americans re-elect a man that is engaged in an unjust and unnecessary war that is bankrupting them and ending thousands of lives? How could they re-elect a man that is trying to take away their freedoms? It was then that we began to doubt the intentions of the American people, and anti-Americanism flourished across the globe.

    Americans have now reached another test. They have two options. They can either choose a man that falls right in line with Bush. A man that has roughly the same foreign policies that have destroyed America's standing in the world. Or, they could choose a man that has the right foreign policies. A man who will restore America's global standing. If Obama is elected president, this will prove to us that Americans have learned from the horrible decision they made in 2000 and 2004. We are desparate to love Americans again. Desperate because we believe you guys are good people. If Obama is elected, anti-Americanism will almost entirely cease overnight.

    Americans failed the Bush vs. Gore test.

    Americans failed the Bush vs. Kerry test.

    DO NOT fail the McCain vs. Obama test.
    I'll go back to your first post and dissect the idiocy of this piece by piece.

    1 you do not care about the lives of Iraq citizens for you did not support the war, if Saddam Hussein would not have been removed from power at the rate he was committing murder/genocide far more innocent Iraq citizens would be dead, mathematics proves me right on this.

    2 It was not just Bush who was ill-informed about wmds I know when in your liberal fantasy world it was all his fault but the fact of the matter is Germany France Great Britain and a few others did not just hold to the same consensus but were as convinced as anyone else.

    Also perhaps you'd care to explain this http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/ hope the link is working.

    3 that somehow the elections in 04 or the turning point of how the rest of the world viewed us is laughable the media has stated again and again that we were hated the second Bush gave the order to go into Iraq, again you fail.

    4 apparently you are in love with failure because we've heard dozens of times from the mainstream media that McCain is not as radical as Bush were similar to him, at least when it was convenient for the media to use him as a tool to undermine bush, now that he is not a convenient pollen to use as an instrument of propaganda somehow he a carbon copy? Honestly only the most intellectually dishonest person in the universe could not see that.

    Also I find it amusing that you say the destruction of this country has happened over eight years of Republican rule when it churned along quite well for the first six years of Bush's presidency, however things have really taken a turn for the worse in the last two years, to tell you what's changed in the last two years like who controls the House and the Senate maybe? I doubt you will.
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    Originally Posted by revkins View Post
    I never said that conservative idealogy was the problem. I believe Ron Paul would've been a great president.

    The problem with your country's politics is the new breed of republicans. The ones that pander to people like you, claiming that they are fiscally conservative, when their actions, once they attain power, are completely the opposite of what they promised. It's sad that you and people like you, will continue to believe them, no matter how many times they lie to you. McCain isn't fiscally conservative. He is as fiscally conservative as Bush.

    Don't allow yourself to be pandered to. Don't allow yourself to be fooled again. You are smarter than this.
    You presume to know what I am bigot, please open your mind and see the real picture.

    Or better yet stop by my thread about criticizing your own candidate, make an entry criticizing Obama if you have the guts to do so, just remember it is not an attack thread it is only to be used to criticize your own candidate.
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    LOL@antiamericanism will end over night.

    That's rich.

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    Maybe the prospect of America becoming a second class Nation won't be such a bad thing..... we can all hop on the **** China bandwagon or something!
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    Originally Posted by Lion Heart View Post
    LOL@antiamericanism will end over night.

    That's rich.
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    because nobody gives a **** what the president of France does. The president of France is irrelevant on the global scale, the president of America is the most powerful person in the world. It's very important to foreigners for this reason. Common sense can be used to answer that question. Don't know why you needed to ask.
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    Originally Posted by Lion Heart View Post
    Why such an obsession with Obama and our election when you can't even vote in it to begin with?

    I mean seriously I never see any american's going on message boards having orgasms say over a candidate from France and debating people till they are blue in the face that he or she is the second coming of god and will save the world.

    I don't know just seems like you guys are kind of wasting your time on this. Your opinion won't make any difference but your vote can but problem is you can't vote in this.
    This is because you are one of those little narrow minded americans that the thinks everything ends at Florida and past that there is nothing, you probably don't have a passport and think that eating tacos at taco bell makes you a world traveller. There are lots of Americans on forums in Britain, but no other countries because Americans, like you never learn foreign languages because of their ignorance as you have just shown
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    Originally Posted by Lion Heart View Post
    LOL@antiamericanism will end over night.

    That's rich.

    If you don't live outside of America, then STFU.

    And I said ALMOST entirely end overnight. So if you are gonna quote me, do it right, r-tard.

    Anti-Americanism in Europe, Australia, NZ, and Canada will largly end overnight if Obama is elected.

    The Middle East will still hate your fuggin' guts. But thats because you guys are sh-tting on their countries.
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    Originally Posted by revkins View Post
    If you don't live outside of America, then STFU.

    And I said ALMOST entirely end overnight. So if you are gonna quote me, do it right, r-tard.

    Anti-Americanism in Europe, Australia, NZ, and Canada will largly end overnight if Obama is elected.

    The Middle East will still hate your fuggin' guts. But thats because you guys are sh-tting on their country.
    I was not aware that there's a country called The Middle East, or that we're ****ting on the entirity of it..... however, I am now aware.
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    Originally Posted by sugicalmike View Post
    I was not aware that there's a country called The Middle East, or that we're ****ting on the entirity of it..... however, I am now aware.

    LOL QUE!?!

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    Originally Posted by sugicalmike View Post
    I was not aware that there's a country called The Middle East, or that we're ****ting on the entirity of it..... however, I am now aware.
    one this is for sure the united arab kingdom of the middle east is a pile of ****

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    Originally Posted by revkins View Post
    If you don't live outside of America, then STFU.

    And I said ALMOST entirely end overnight. So if you are gonna quote me, do it right, r-tard.

    Anti-Americanism in Europe, Australia, NZ, and Canada will largly end overnight if Obama is elected.

    The Middle East will still hate your fuggin' guts. But thats because you guys are sh-tting on their countries.
    LOL.

    Or what internet tough guy?

    Gonna reach thru the screen and punch me or something?

    Please you little **** I'd **** you up in a heart beat.

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    Originally Posted by freeheeler View Post
    This is because you are one of those little narrow minded americans that the thinks everything ends at Florida and past that there is nothing, you probably don't have a passport and think that eating tacos at taco bell makes you a world traveller. There are lots of Americans on forums in Britain, but no other countries because Americans, like you never learn foreign languages because of their ignorance as you have just shown
    I'll start learning some foreign languages when all these immigrants that come to my country show the respect it deserves by learning english and not trying to make it, for example, mexico part II.

    I LOVE immigrants. Some of the best and most hard working people I've ever met but they'd do themselves and all of us favors if they'd try to learn the language that is spoken by the majority here.

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    Anti-Americanism isn't gonna near end in Western countries if Obama's elected; he wants to attack Pakistan and he isn't even president yet!

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    Originally Posted by matt1001 View Post
    because the leader of america is still the most powerful and influential leader in the world and he's decisions will have enormous impacts on most countries in the world, esspecially relating to economics
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    What he said.

    The Bush presidency royally f$cked the entire world. The US economy is destroying ours. The lack of concern and funding for new energy option due to an agnostic view of Global Warming is destroying our environment. The war in Iraq made all of our countries less safe as it radicalised Muslims even further.

    If you want to be leader of the free world then you can't blame the free world for caring who their leader will be.

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    Originally Posted by Lion Heart View Post
    I'll start learning some foreign languages when all these immigrants that come to my country show the respect it deserves by learning english and not trying to make it, for example, mexico part II.

    I LOVE immigrants. Some of the best and most hard working people I've ever met but they'd do themselves and all of us favors if they'd try to learn the language that is spoken by the majority here.
    who the f made you king? you'll only learn a language when someone shows you "respect"? what happened to intellectual curiosity or internationalism? are those "socialist" concepts too?

    I guess you LOVE immigrants as long as they lick your boots and know their place?
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    Originally Posted by Lion Heart View Post
    Why such an obsession with Obama and our election when you can't even vote in it to begin with?
    this should not be too hard to figure out; after 8 years of george bush fuking up the entire world, everyone is justifiably concerned that america is stupid enough to elect someone similar to bush!

    the planet holds its breath in the hope that it wont be subjected to 4more years!
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