Usp Labs Prime - A Real Review.

[RemainDieHard]

People need to stop hating on Prime and USP for that matter. Personally I love P Slin AP and Supercissus. They have yet to let me down.

Your other thread said Prime and Supersissus shrank your balls so you stopped taking them, and also that they possibly threw off your blood values

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...91&postcount=5

[Yates Row T]

Your other thread said Prime and Supersissus shrank your balls so you stopped taking them, and also that they possibly threw off your blood values

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...91&postcount=5

I never said that was the cause of them. It was just the only 2 supplements i added to my regimen. I was going to have bloodwork done and wanted to come off all supplements.

I have since continued thanks for asking though. Although to early to tell if Prime works. Supercissus has allowed me to do squats which i havent been able to do without pain in about 2 years.

[user1111]

So asking how your product works compared to another similar product is a "dumb question?"

Great PR and marketing skills there buddy!

HOW DOES THAT FOOT TASTE?

We are the fastest growing company in the industry and our PR and marketing are amongst the best, but you are just acting like a silly man.

USPlabs PRIME is a new category of supplement. You asked specifics between USPlabs PRIME and a test booster. One is a natural anabolic that does not effect HPTA where the other works by increasing Testosterone.

[papagunz]

I have a legit question. How is the search for Tribulus Aquaticus' mechanism of action going?

[user1111]

I have a legit question. How is the search for Tribulus Aquaticus' mechanism of action going?

No MOA identified yet. We are looking at 2 MOAs and once it's finished. We will update the public.

[papagunz]

No MOA identified yet. We are looking at 2 MOAs and once it's finished. We will update the public.

Short and concise, me likes. Are you looking at the moa's postulated in the writeup (anti-glucocorticoid and/or calpain inhibition)?

[user1111]

Short and concise, me likes. Are you looking at the moa's postulated in the writeup (anti-glucocorticoid and/or calpain inhibition)?

no anti glucocorticoid and if it binds to the androgen receptor.

[Sixpack]

Damn this product looks appealing!

[tdog69]

Whey protein only works because it's a food macronutrient, creatine is a placebo, and fish oil only has postulated health benefits that have no measurable impact on body recomp.

Why do you think that pro athletes choose drugs over supplements when they could afford as many of the latter as they want, without the risk of getting caught and disqualified? Simple. Because hormonal stuff is the only stuff out there that works. That is never going to change. All of the semi-effective legal "supplements" are or were hormonally derived.

Just take a mild steroid and be done with it. Wow.

Strong not knowing with this one

Yoda is disappointed

Creatine Wrong
Whey Protein I beleive my five year old knows this
Fish oil just go hide under your keyboard now
Athletes Not using supplements

.........................LOL..you got to be kidding me, please do tell this to one of the Nutritionist or Sports medicine trainers to a Pro Football team, you could save them lots of money by sharing this information you have

[Patrick Arnold]

Ask Patrick the same question.

Double blind studies of the sort he talks about are ideal, however a strong scientific argument which follows a logical progression and is based upon established facts is a great place to start. I don't see any of that in your write up.

[Patrick Arnold]

no anti glucocorticoid and if it binds to the androgen receptor.

if what binds to the androgen receptor

[greeko]

We are the fastest growing company in the industry and our PR and marketing are amongst the best, but you are just acting like a silly man.

USPlabs PRIME is a new category of supplement. You asked specifics between USPlabs PRIME and a test booster. One is a natural anabolic that does not effect HPTA where the other works by increasing Testosterone.

I'll give you guys the "marketing" kudos for introducing us to the first buffed out Guido drag queen.

[Patrick Arnold]

I'll give you guys the "marketing" kudos for introducing us to the first buffed out Guido drag queen.

oh snap

[Al Shades]

o'rly?

ya rly

Sorry to break it to you

[user1111]

Double blind studies of the sort he talks about are ideal, however a strong scientific argument which follows a logical progression and is based upon established facts is a great place to start. I don't see any of that in your write up.

Not entirely true although the scope of the innovation leaves us a bit baffled on the MOA. We did test LH, Free test, and total test and have two cell culture tests running to test possible MOAs.

[user1111]

I'll give you guys the "marketing" kudos for introducing us to the first buffed out Guido drag queen.

You keep talking about him. You must have a little crush.

[greeko]

You keep talking about him. You must have a little crush.

who doesn't?

[papagunz]

ya rly

Sorry to break it to you

All of those studies lied to me, damn them all.

Edit: And Alan Aragon's book lied to me too. Damn, what an idiot he is.

Edit2: Are you positive you're not just talking about people with already naturally high endogenous Cr production?

[Patrick Arnold]

Damn this product looks appealing!

what about it looks appealing to you

[Patrick Arnold]

Not entirely true although the scope of the innovation leaves us a bit baffled on the MOA. We did test LH, Free test, and total test and have two cell culture tests running to test possible MOAs.

can you explain in more detail what these cell culture tests are? who is running them for you?

[RemainDieHard]

Not entirely true although the scope of the innovation leaves us a bit baffled on the MOA. We did test LH, Free test, and total test and have two cell culture tests running to test possible MOAs.

Don't those go up from just working out in general? Were your test subjects trained or untrained? How many test subjects? Any pics? Pubmed articles showing hypertropy benefits for the ingredients in PRIME?

As far as Pat/Ergo goes, Ergo's products compared to yours are apples to oranges. His products are exactly what they say are - Anabolics, AIs, etc. No fancy marketing needed. The user feedback and company reputation speaks for itself. Not to mention he has a degree in chemistry.


What are you or your product developers credentials if I may ask?

[user1111]

Don't those go up from just working out in general? Were your test subjects trained or untrained? How many test subjects? Any pics? Pubmed articles showing hypertropy benefits for the ingredients in PRIME?

As far as Pat/Ergo goes, Ergo's products compared to yours are apples to oranges. His products are exactly what they say are - Anabolics, AIs, etc. No fancy marketing needed. The user feedback and company reputation speaks for itself. Not to mention he has a degree in chemistry.


What are you or your product developers credentials if I may ask?

We are not claiming Pubmed studies. This is innovation not a search on Pubmed formulation.

Now with success its Biotech firms and Universities in India which means teams of PHDs and master students.

Pat is a smart fuucker no doubt.

[user1111]

can you explain in more detail what these cell culture tests are? who is running them for you?

Not my expertise but we are testing if the active in TA binds to the androgen receptor or acts like an anti-glucocorticoid.

We are also have a composition of matter patent about to be filed instead of a wimpy use patent.

[Heatlh_Guru]

I plan on starting a Prime log, my first log ever, next week. It will be solo, so it will really show whether or not it is for real.

I read that you suggest taking it everyday, as long as I don't over train due to the amazing recovery you are supposed to experience.

What would your recommendation be? Taking it everyday would mean that 1 bottle would last less than a month...

[Al Shades]

steroids do not replace supplements (non hormonal supplements). they are apples and oranges

steroids are prohibited in most professional sports too, which make supplements even more popular with these guys

Most of your "supplements" work because they are hormonally derived.

All of those studies lied to me, damn them all.

Edit: And Alan Aragon's book lied to me too. Damn, what an idiot he is.

Edit2: Are you positive you're not just talking about people with already naturally high endogenous Cr production?

I would put its effectiveness at the same level as ribose.

[papagunz]

I would put its effectiveness at the same level as ribose.

So ... ribose is good at raising [PCr] in muscle tissue?

[Micah123]

People need to stop hating on Prime and USP for that matter. Personally I love P Slin AP and Supercissus. They have yet to let me down.

Stop hating on Prime and USP? Have you not read my 2nd and 3rd post in this thread?

Oh and a big LOL to all the USP labs reps neging me

Good Company.

[Micah123]

Too all of you criticizing my diet, when i said 3000 cal's that was just a wild guess, here is my usually diet for the day:

Breakfast
100 Grams of yogurt and 2 cups of CornFlakes + 2 Teaspoons of Honey
200mls of Soya Milk

Morning Tea
2 Oranges
1 Apple
2 Grape Fruit
1 Bread roll with chicken or another type of meat and 2 slices of cheese.

Lunch
Usually 150 grams of pasta and 25 grams of cheese or 2 eggs and toast. and 100-150 grams of tuna.

Afternoon tea
2 Apples
100-150 grams of Tuna

Dinner
Usually Chicken, Steak, Pasta, Soup, what ever mum is cooking

Desert
1cup of Oats and 2cups of milk + honey.

I take my diet pretty seriously

[RemainDieHard]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=110483721

[Micah123]

Dinner is usually that big that I can not eat it all