How long before Vince buys TNA?

cruiserweight · 09-20-2008, 12:14 PM

Do you think he is waiting on them to actually give the WWE a legitimate threat that WCW delivered before Vince makes a move or do you think they just have to much pride to ever sell the company to Vince no matter the offer. In the current state of the WWE they can be challenged but im not convinced TNA is really trying.

sXeWarrior · 09-20-2008, 12:23 PM

Vince can't buy TNA. It's not for sale. Also, TNA is backed by a multi-billion dollar company and is finally turning a profit.

bimmer323i · 09-20-2008, 12:39 PM

yeah dont count on Vince buying out TNA... buying ROH is more likely as Vince as started become a fan of ROH guys (Punk, Kendrick, London, Wang Yang, Danielson, Sydal, Morishima, etc) I also wouldnt say TNA will ever compete with WWE, they just dont know what to do to compete with them when its obvious they should listen to their fans and start pushing the X Division and the homegrown talent ... but naw, us fans are on the WWE payroll.

ProWrestleFan · 09-20-2008, 01:10 PM

I hope someone buys WCW from Vinceant and turns it into a major competitors.

nyr469 · 09-20-2008, 01:49 PM

in hindsight buying wcw and taking away the competition is the worst thing that ever happened to wwe. i doubt vince would ever admit that but i'm sure he's fully aware of that fact

mattitude · 09-20-2008, 02:06 PM

What would be the point in buying TNA? The money would probably go towards a new company named something else and all the TNA fans would probably go off and watch that company then..

Squizzy · 09-20-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nyr469

in hindsight buying wcw and taking away the competition is the worst thing that ever happened to wwe. i doubt vince would ever admit that but i'm sure he's fully aware of that fact

I still can't understand why people say this. Vince bought WCW for a bargain-bin type price, and go their whole video library. That alone was worth the money he paid for it. Besides, WCW nearly put Vince out of business. Ever since he's bought WCW, Vince has had a profitable year, every year, and will have one this year as well. There is absolutely no logic saying that buying out the competition was bad for Vince. Every statistic or number seems to indicate otherwise.

jimbob007 · 09-20-2008, 03:34 PM

I think he means did them harm product wise, there is no doubt WCW lit a fire under Vince's ass in late 1995 & all the time they were still in business, Vince felt he had to put out the best product possible. As soon as he bought them his desire went & the product has been pretty dull for most of the last 7 years as a result.

There is not point buying TNA, it has been around 6 years & is a complete joke, in 5 years time they will probably still have Sting coming in a few times a year to hit someone with his baseball bat, Nash will likely still be around burying the X Division guys & the up & comers. Double J will still be pushing himself to the max & the endless swerves will still be happening every week.

...Kennedy · 09-20-2008, 03:37 PM

After (If?) TNA finally establishes itself as a major competitor, then Vince will set his sights on acquisition.

Personally I hope he never has the opportunity to buy them out. Competition between two or more major federations would be the best thing for us fans.

nyr469 · 09-21-2008, 12:10 AM

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I still can't understand why people say this. Vince bought WCW for a bargain-bin type price, and go their whole video library. That alone was worth the money he paid for it. Besides, WCW nearly put Vince out of business. Ever since he's bought WCW, Vince has had a profitable year, every year, and will have one this year as well. There is absolutely no logic saying that buying out the competition was bad for Vince. Every statistic or number seems to indicate otherwise.

wwe was NEVER almost put out of business by anyone...finishing behind nitro in the ratings for a bunch of weeks does NOT mean you are being put out of business. they were always making $$.

today if raw gets over a 3.0 thats solid and if ecw/smackdown get a 2.0 thats good...back during the monday night wars raw and nitros were both getting 6s so a combined 12.0...meaning FOUR TIMES as many people were watching wrestling on monday nights. wwe didn't take all of wcw viewers and double their ratings people stopped watching...

if i gave you the option of being paid $200 but another guy also gets paid $200 but if instead by taking $100 the other guy gets nothing, how do you have more $$ by taking the $100?

nyr469 · 09-21-2008, 12:13 AM

not to mention the fact that the wwe product was a billion times better because they were trying to beat the competition, they had to be motivated to outdo wcw. after the competition was gone they didn't have to try and they got lazy...its gotten better recently but there was a stretch where basically everyone in the company from vince down to the wrestlers acted like the objective was to beat wcw and once they did the game was over and they didn't know what to do next

pearljamfan · 09-21-2008, 03:06 AM

wwf were very close to going out of business in 1995/96, how close we will never know because at the time the company were not public, but vince himself on the billionaire ted skits was even mentioning it; there was only ever going to be one winner in the wwf/wcw war, with right management it could and probably should have been wcw and in different circumstances we might be lamenting the death of wwf these days and complaining about the quality of nitro

getting back on subject, a wwe/roh link up might work

Disenfranchised · 09-21-2008, 09:43 AM

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wwe was NEVER almost put out of business by anyone...

Yeah they were almost out for good in 97. Drawing 200 people in a pro sports arena is not a good sign for any company. (I was there)
WCW almost killed the WWF and that's a fact. Then they started getting desperate and started with the crash TV style. They

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wwf were very close to going out of business in 1995/96

No they were fine at that point, especially in 95. WCW didn't even start dominating WWF yet lol. It's not until months of ass kicked the WWF almost went under,which was 97. They started cutting back in every way possible to survive. From water coolers in the back to lighting, to money for the talent.

Squizzy · 09-22-2008, 07:54 AM

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Yeah they were almost out for good in 97. Drawing 200 people in a pro sports arena is not a good sign for any company. (I was there)
WCW almost killed the WWF and that's a fact. Then they started getting desperate and started with the crash TV style. They

No they were fine at that point, especially in 95. WCW didn't even start dominating WWF yet lol. It's not until months of ass kicked the WWF almost went under,which was 97. They started cutting back in every way possible to survive. From water coolers in the back to lighting, to money for the talent.

Thank you.

MucleHeadz · 09-22-2008, 08:00 PM

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I still can't understand why people say this. Vince bought WCW for a bargain-bin type price, and go their whole video library. That alone was worth the money he paid for it. Besides, WCW nearly put Vince out of business. Ever since he's bought WCW, Vince has had a profitable year, every year, and will have one this year as well. There is absolutely no logic saying that buying out the competition was bad for Vince. Every statistic or number seems to indicate otherwise.

They dont even use the video library,they could easily put out starcade box set, American bash ,halloween havok ,best of crusiersweights dvd etc WCW did have have some great matches and history. Vince just brought wcw because his ego, They could still be working off invasion as we speak, by keeping them separated. WWE will truley feel pain when hbk,taker are gone I dont know how long HHH can last aswell. Cm punk seems to be only person they have given shot, while mvp & morrison sit on side lines.

The only thing Tna needs to due is stop copying wwe then, make own stars I look foward to see what they do with suicide/kaz.

pearljamfan · 09-22-2008, 10:21 PM

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Vince just brought wcw because his ego, They could still be working off invasion as we speak, by keeping them separated.

still working on the invasion angle after 7.5 years??? nwo dragged on way to long and it barely went half that length. vince was left with the guys at the bottom of the barrel when wcw went bust, had the likes of flair, sting, goldberg, steiner, nash, hogan, Bischoff etc arrived in wwf in march of 2001 then maybe the invasion angle might have worked, as it was the WCW names that did join were not on the same level as the likes of rock, austin, angle, HHH, foley, taker etc to ever work.

vince is a businessman when you are given the chance to buy your biggest rival for a knockdown price you take it, thats what coke would do if pepsi were available or walmart would do if k-mart were there for the taking.

look at cedar buying up themeparks and attractions across the country and then closing them, same with station casinos in nevada, buy up the neighbouring casino and implode it and leave an empty lot.