"Never perform cardio after lifting weight!!" WTF

[Tice]

http://www.secretsofmuscle.com/cardio-bodybuilding.html

"Never perform cardio after lifting weight!!

I can not stress this enough and I wish someone had told me this before I had to
learn the hard way. Doing cardio after lifting hurts you in 2 ways: 1) your body will
start to burn muscle tissue for energy, since you already did 45- 1 hour weight lifting
workout 2) you muscles will not grow because instead of having your post workout
shake, you are doing cardio. It is better to not do cardio than to do it after weight
lifting!!!"


What the hell kind of crap is this, this logic flies in the face of everything I have ever read. Most ppl say to do cardio after weights cuz otherwise you will have tired yourself prior to lifting and lowered your abilities to make new gains. Can someone explain this link?

[corzzx]

Most people don't have enough time in the day to do weights for an hour, then find another hour later in the day to do cardio. So if I don't do cardio after weights, I cant do it at all.


So, is it better to do cardio before weights? I prefer doing that cause I don't feel like doing it afterwards, plus I do light cardio so it doesn't tire me out too much before lifting.

[Abominator]

I've always heard cardio after training can interfere with the recovery process.

But I don't think it makes much difference at all.

[Tice]

Originally Posted by corzzx

Most people don't have enough time in the day to do weights for an hour, then find another hour later in the day to do cardio. So if I don't do cardio after weights, I cant do it at all.


So, is it better to do cardio before weights? I prefer doing that cause I don't feel like doing it afterwards, plus I do light cardio so it doesn't tire me out too much before lifting.

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[One Badass Mofo]

Originally Posted by Tice

http://www.secretsofmuscle.com/cardio-bodybuilding.html

"Never perform cardio after lifting weight!!

I can not stress this enough and I wish someone had told me this before I had to
learn the hard way. Doing cardio after lifting hurts you in 2 ways: 1) your body will
start to burn muscle tissue for energy, since you already did 45- 1 hour weight lifting
workout 2) you muscles will not grow because instead of having your post workout
shake, you are doing cardio. It is better to not do cardio than to do it after weight
lifting!!!"


What the hell kind of crap is this, this logic flies in the face of everything I have ever read. Most ppl say to do cardio after weights cuz otherwise you will have tired yourself prior to lifting and lowered your abilities to make new gains. Can someone explain this link?

some people suggest downing a protein shake half way or after your weights session if you wanna go for a cardio session afterwards

[Ehmien]

Doing cardio after weights worked fine for me and never downed a shake half way....dont like to puke while running

[jdtemple]

I lift at lunch and do cardio after work.

[phoebusapollo]

Originally Posted by Tice

instead of having your post workout shake, you are doing cardio.

Not true, I do both. means a five min wait to settle stomach and a gentle start

It is better to not do cardio than to do it after weight lifting!!

Statements this general are always wrong for some. Solid state cardio after weights works well for me, HIIT i save for other days. Whether this is the case for you depends on goals, fitness, constitution.

The only blanket statement is that blanket statements are wrong.

[in10city]

Originally Posted by Tice

Can someone explain this link?

Not without resorting to sweeping generalizations and drawing conclusions based upon generous leaps of logic.

[Streetbull]

Originally Posted by Tice

http://www.secretsofmuscle.com/cardio-bodybuilding.html

"Never perform cardio after lifting weight!!

I can not stress this enough and I wish someone had told me this before I had to
learn the hard way. Doing cardio after lifting hurts you in 2 ways: 1) your body will
start to burn muscle tissue for energy, since you already did 45- 1 hour weight lifting
workout 2) you muscles will not grow because instead of having your post workout
shake, you are doing cardio. It is better to not do cardio than to do it after weight
lifting!!!"


What the hell kind of crap is this, this logic flies in the face of everything I have ever read. Most ppl say to do cardio after weights cuz otherwise you will have tired yourself prior to lifting and lowered your abilities to make new gains. Can someone explain this link?

Everything depends on your goal. If you want to gain muscle, you probably shouldn't do any cardio at all. If you want to lose fat, then you should do cardio FIRST, have a sugar free protein drink, lift (but only for a short time), then have a sugared protein drink.

I actually mix mine together --- have a bike and an oly set in my garage gym. 6 minutes on the bike, lift, 6 minutes, lift, and so on for an hour. I've dropped 30 pounds and gotten stronger, doing the above and following the Warrior Diet.

Good Luck!!

[Jules Verne]

Originally Posted by Tice

What the hell kind of crap is this, this logic flies in the face of everything I have ever read. Most ppl say to do cardio after weights cuz otherwise you will have tired yourself prior to lifting and lowered your abilities to make new gains. Can someone explain this link?

Most people aren't big enough or anywhere near close enough to their genetic limit, or work their body hard enough (combination of being big/lifting heavy in actual lb lifted and workout duration, not just perceived intensity), for it to matter.

And I don't agree with the reasons either. You'll 'burn' muscle anyway and you don't grow with one PWO shake or meal.

And for the record I'm not big enough for it to matter to me, but I still don't see how people have the energy for a decent cardio session after a nice heavy, decent volume lifting routine either. The only time I've done it is what I'm recovering from injury or in the last stages of a cut.

[SocratesTX]

Unless you've depleted all of your glycogen stores and burned through the available fat during your lifting session you have nothing to worry about. People make all kinds of wild claims and if you dig deep enough and arrange things in the right way, you can almost make it look logical. Truth of the matter is, listen to those who have experience, diets are all crap ( a lifestyle change in eating habits is different than a diet) and most other things are misleading.

As for not understanding how people can do cardio after lifting - its a matter of being in goo dcardiovascular condition. Most lifters are not. If you think you're in good shape or even really good shape. Give the first week of Rock Hard Challenge 2003 a try and you may think how great of shape you are really in. That routine is based in HIIT sessions for 30 minutes directly after a brutal leg day of something like 6 exercises at 15-20 reps each for 2 sets.

[Dukoria]

Interesting, I don't buy it though. I do cardio after weights every time. 30-45 minutes worth and I'm still putting on muscle. In 1 month I gained 3 lbs of lean muscle and 1 lb of fat (caliper testing).

I think that if your already at a low low BF% this would probably be true but if your BF isn't that low then I don't see how its true. Calories in and calories out and protiens vs carbs throughout the day.

With this schedule I'm eating 2000 - 2500 calories a day. Leg days its more like 3500 calories.

I want to start burning fat more and the suggestion was to do cardio first then lift high reps, low weight.

[SocratesTX]

Originally Posted by Dukoria

I want to start burning fat more and the suggestion was to do cardio first then lift high reps, low weight.

That's another myth. Lift heavy when cutting to retain muscle mass. Light weights and high reps is just a way to get you to elevate your HR. You may as well just run. You'll lose strength more quickly as well.

[miQ]

First I usually make half of the shake with carbs and protein after the weightlifting and then go to do the cardio. Secondly don't belive all that is written down, read from science books not from useless internet sites. Some might be right but usually they are one persons beliefs.