which is less harsh, pros/cons of each?
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Thread: Epistane or H-drol?
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09-19-2008, 05:49 PM #1
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09-19-2008, 05:58 PM #2
H-drol is less harsh.
Prob get more results from epistane though.
I'm thinking which one to go with next time, i'll prob go with h-drol seeing as though it will only be my 2nd cycle (1st was 11-oxo)Vision is purpose, and when your purpose is clear so are your life choices. Vision creates faith and faith creates willpower. With faith there is no anxiety, no doubt - just absolute confidence. R.I.P ZYZZ - YOU WILL BE MISSED BRAH March 24 1989 - August 6 2011
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09-19-2008, 06:03 PM #3
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you really can't go wrong with either.
havoc:
- 1 bottle is enough for a good cycle (30/30/30/40)
- stonger gains
- side effects aren't bad
- good on a bulk
hdrol
- needs 2 bottles to be effective (50/50/75/75/75/75)
- milder side effects
- good on a cut
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09-19-2008, 06:09 PM #4
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09-19-2008, 06:11 PM #5
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09-19-2008, 06:13 PM #6
Havoc - 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan- 17b-ol - 10mg
Epistane - 2,3a-Epithio-17a-methyletioallo cholan-17b-ol - 10 mg
They are the same compound arn't they?Vision is purpose, and when your purpose is clear so are your life choices. Vision creates faith and faith creates willpower. With faith there is no anxiety, no doubt - just absolute confidence. R.I.P ZYZZ - YOU WILL BE MISSED BRAH March 24 1989 - August 6 2011
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09-19-2008, 06:14 PM #7
Havn't heard anyone shut down by h-drol and havn't heard much about people being shut down from epistane
Vision is purpose, and when your purpose is clear so are your life choices. Vision creates faith and faith creates willpower. With faith there is no anxiety, no doubt - just absolute confidence. R.I.P ZYZZ - YOU WILL BE MISSED BRAH March 24 1989 - August 6 2011
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09-19-2008, 06:16 PM #8
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09-19-2008, 06:18 PM #9
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09-19-2008, 06:20 PM #10
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09-19-2008, 06:23 PM #12
h-drol is pretty mild - havn't heard anyone being shut down from it.
Vision is purpose, and when your purpose is clear so are your life choices. Vision creates faith and faith creates willpower. With faith there is no anxiety, no doubt - just absolute confidence. R.I.P ZYZZ - YOU WILL BE MISSED BRAH March 24 1989 - August 6 2011
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09-19-2008, 06:23 PM #13
id say run havoc. albeit a DS, its mild enough for a beginner cycle.
Pre load cycle support for 2 weeks prior
20/30/30/30 or 40 depending on what your body is telling you.
PCT
Cycle support
Post Cycle Support
Reversitol
You may want to throw in some 3-5g of taurine, potassium, and significantly increase your water intake to reduce back pumps.
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09-19-2008, 06:24 PM #14
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there are milder compounds (bold, 11-oxo, 3ad)
im not exactly sure how a shutdown would feel, but im nearing teh end of my epistane cycle, and haven't really noticed any shutdown like sideeffects yet.
go with epistane. might as well run the stronger of the two. shutdown isn't a huge problem as you'll recover quickly from it anyways.--------------------- ϞϞ( ๑⚈ ․̫ ⚈๑). ---------------------
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09-19-2008, 06:25 PM #15
h-drol most likely will not shut you down. but everyone is different.
id say 3-ad is the most mild compound that i can think of.
if your really that concerned you can go with bold. which is more expensive, but less risk of sides than havoc, yet yields similar gains...in an 8 week cycle compared to havoc's 4
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