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    Would a high rep chest day be beneficial?

    I have been lagging behind on my chest for a long time now. THe strength in my chest has grown considerably, but the size has not. I go to thinking, and I think I figured out why it hasen't been growing. I always do the same rep schime for chest. I do not change my cest workouts nearly as often as the other body parts.

    So, would it benefit me to lighten up and go for more reps? I usually do DB press with 80 lbs in each hand for 7-9 reps. I do a total of 5-6 sets of presses at a variety of angles (flat, incline, decline).

    I'm thinking of dropping to 60 lbs today and going for 15 reps for 6 or more sets.

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    It always a good idea to vary your reps from time to time. I would never go over 15 reps, but that is definitely not a bad idea.
    -You have to do what others won't to achieve what others don't.

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    Thanks. Would go for 12, but our weights jump from 60 to 70.
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    Originally Posted by dn27 View Post
    I have been lagging behind on my chest for a long time now. THe strength in my chest has grown considerably, but the size has not. I go to thinking, and I think I figured out why it hasen't been growing. I always do the same rep schime for chest. I do not change my cest workouts nearly as often as the other body parts....Opinions?
    The text I have highligted in bold font is where your problem lies. Change your routine once every 4-6 weeks. Change exercises, reps, sets, rest between sets, techniques, frequency etc.
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    Originally Posted by Leyton Stone View Post
    The text I have highligted in bold font is where your problem lies. Change your routine once every 4-6 weeks. Change exercises, reps, sets, rest between sets, techniques, frequency etc.
    Yeah, I know. It's just hard to force myself to go lighter with chest. Gotta get over it...
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    ditch presses,do (cable ) flyes,crossovers,dips and atrainer flyes
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    Get into a bodybuilder mindset. Concern yourself with pump, feel, muscle isolation and mind-muscle connection. Get away from poundage greed or lifting the weight 'any which way'. Poundage is important but not at the expensive of sacrificing the above qualities. Use controlled and focussed muscular contractions to move the weight, not brute force.
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    Originally Posted by Leyton Stone View Post
    Get into a bodybuilder mindset. Concern yourself with pump, feel, muscle isolation and mind-muscle connection. Get away from poundage greed or lifting the weight 'any which way'. Poundage is important but not at the expensive of sacrificing the above qualities. Use controlled and focussed muscular contractions to move the weight, not brute force.
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    Mate,
    You should def mix things up and keep your body guessing.
    Try faster and slower reps to reach differant muscle fibers.
    As for an exercise try floor presses, its a variation on bench press and works great
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    i find myself just doing 2 varieties of cable x-overs supersetted at the end of my chest day. 3 x 12 or so.
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    One ovther thing try less sets you are coming close to over training
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    Originally Posted by killerbee_zor View Post
    ditch presses,do (cable ) flyes,crossovers,dips and atrainer flyes
    I'm sorry... you don't do any form of presses for your chest??

    I'm all for dips, but IMO flyes are more of "burnout" or complimentary exercise...
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    Phew! I did the high reps... Unfortunatly, the 60's were heavier than I thought and I could only get them up for 11-12 reps. Did 3 sets of incline, 2 sets of decline, then some cable flys (2 sets), then push-ups. Got a GREAT pump!

    Then I went on to do my sholders and biceps. Overall a really good workout.


    Thanks for all the help.

    PS: All reps were 3 seconds down, 2 seconds up, 1 second pause.
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    chest presses are very ego oriented excercises, alot of us feel we need to impress people we dont know at the gym, but get out of that mindset, i have no problem pressing 40 lbs db's, it's the pencil necks that are usually smirking at me, who cares.
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    Originally Posted by mybody001 View Post
    chest presses are very ego oriented excercises, alot of us feel we need to impress people we dont know at the gym, but get out of that mindset, i have no problem pressing 40 lbs db's, it's the pencil necks that are usually smirking at me, who cares.
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    I always do 225x20 at the end of my chest routines.
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    Originally Posted by jawadams View Post
    I'm sorry... you don't do any form of presses for your chest??

    I'm all for dips, but IMO flyes are more of "burnout" or complimentary exercise...
    No it does nothing for my chest,i am shoulderdominant.
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    Originally Posted by mybody001 View Post
    chest presses are very ego oriented excercises, alot of us feel we need to impress people we dont know at the gym, but get out of that mindset, i have no problem pressing 40 lbs db's, it's the pencil necks that are usually smirking at me, who cares.
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    Originally Posted by dn27 View Post
    I have been lagging behind on my chest for a long time now. THe strength in my chest has grown considerably, but the size has not. I go to thinking, and I think I figured out why it hasen't been growing. I always do the same rep schime for chest. I do not change my cest workouts nearly as often as the other body parts.

    So, would it benefit me to lighten up and go for more reps? I usually do DB press with 80 lbs in each hand for 7-9 reps. I do a total of 5-6 sets of presses at a variety of angles (flat, incline, decline).

    I'm thinking of dropping to 60 lbs today and going for 15 reps for 6 or more sets.

    Opinions?
    The sole reason your chest hasn't grown as you'd like is that you haven't been lifting for a considerable amount of time.
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    Originally Posted by Leyton Stone View Post
    Get into a bodybuilder mindset. Concern yourself with pump, feel, muscle isolation and mind-muscle connection. Get away from poundage greed or lifting the weight 'any which way'. Poundage is important but not at the expensive of sacrificing the above qualities. Use controlled and focussed muscular contractions to move the weight, not brute force.
    wow well said...basically you have to do what works for you, and you will hear people tell you this more and more. You cant go by what other people experienced. I guess you can try it but overall you have to take what you've learned and aply it to your body's needs. If it feels good and you get a pump form it then ****in do it!!!! lol gl
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    Originally Posted by jawadams View Post
    It always a good idea to vary your reps from time to time. I would never go over 15 reps, but that is definitely not a bad idea.
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    Originally Posted by Leyton Stone View Post
    Get into a bodybuilder mindset. Concern yourself with pump, feel, muscle isolation and mind-muscle connection. Get away from poundage greed or lifting the weight 'any which way'. Poundage is important but not at the expensive of sacrificing the above qualities. Use controlled and focussed muscular contractions to move the weight, not brute force.
    BS, go for a PR. Don't bounce and make sure you're using good form, but always go for a PR. Never used forced reps or negatives like that though

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    I always do 225x20 at the end of my chest routines.
    this is smart
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    The sole reason your chest hasn't grown as you'd like is that you haven't been lifting for a considerable amount of time.
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