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    Why does it seem like so many doctors dislike squats? I have been hearing a pop in my right knee when doing pistols (one-leg squats) and experiencing some soreness the day after. So I saw the doctor today, and he said he wasn't worried about the pop. But he said I should be doing "stuff like leg presses" instead of squats. I know that leg presses are no replacement for squats, but it seems like my doc isn't the only one that feels this way. I think I just need to work on my form.
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    I don't listen to doctors. They told me to stop training altogether at one point when I was getting a lot of flus. Turns out I had an infection that they never bothered to look for.

    Doctors rarely work out, so why should I listen to their advice on working out?
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    A doc that likes squats.... A LOT...

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    It is true, doctors can be ignorant and stupid just like everyone else. Most are just basing this opinion on statistics of squat injuries which typically are caused by poor form and not knowing their own bodies capabilities. It is possible for most people to do ASG squats, however, some may need to build up the amount of weight slower than others, have higher rep range to practice the proper movement and foot and knee positions before progressing with heavier weights which do damage quicker if in improper form.

    This was the case for me as I started not knowing exactly how to do it, and wound up with numerous knee injuries and agitations from improper form. (I knew how to do it in theory, however)

    -- Bottom line, practice with with lower weight, higher reps to get everything nailed...reading how to do something is a lot different from actually doing it.
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    Originally Posted by 46and2 View Post
    Why does it seem like so many doctors dislike squats? I have been hearing a pop in my right knee when doing pistols (one-leg squats) and experiencing some soreness the day after. So I saw the doctor today, and he said he wasn't worried about the pop. But he said I should be doing "stuff like leg presses" instead of squats. I know that leg presses are no replacement for squats, but it seems like my doc isn't the only one that feels this way. I think I just need to work on my form.
    Seek a doctor in Sports Medicine, not from a general practice. Most general practice doctors have never touched a free weight in their life.
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    Originally Posted by 46and2 View Post
    Why does it seem like so many doctors dislike squats? I have been hearing a pop in my right knee when doing pistols (one-leg squats) and experiencing some soreness the day after. So I saw the doctor today, and he said he wasn't worried about the pop. But he said I should be doing "stuff like leg presses" instead of squats. I know that leg presses are no replacement for squats, but it seems like my doc isn't the only one that feels this way. I think I just need to work on my form.
    I've had some knee problems and contrary to what people say, I think squats are helping me build my strength in my knee joints back up. I don't go heavy, but, I do ATG squats with a lighter weight. My knees and lower body in general have never felt so good......
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    Originally Posted by jmusclehead View Post
    I've had some knee problems and contrary to what people say, I think squats are helping me build my strength in my knee joints back up. I don't go heavy, but, I do ATG squats with a lighter weight. My knees and lower body in general have never felt so good......
    That's what I always thought. I have been doing one-leg squats with no weight and using a doorway to balance
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    IMO most of the doctors don't really know anything about general nutrition and what is good healthy living. They don't take nutritional courses and they don't take anything that teaches them about excercise. They are really just there to diagnose things and give you pills.


    (Ivanhoe Newswire) -- A few more squats and lunges at the gym could keep your knees in tip top shape.

    A new study suggests stronger quadriceps muscles -- leg muscles in the upper thigh -- can help protect against the cartilage loss behind the kneecap which could eventually lead to knee osteoarthritis (OA).

    Researchers from the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., Boston University, and the University of California, San Francisco studied 265 men and women with knee OA. Participants had magnetic resonance images (MRIs) of their knee joints at the beginning of the study, at 15 months, and at 30 months. The MRI results showed how much cartilage loss there was over time at the two joints of the knee -- the tibiofemoral joint, where the thighbone (femur) meets the lower leg bone (tibia); and the patellofemoral joint behind the kneecap (patella).

    Researchers also measured the strength of the participants’ quadriceps muscles at the beginning of the study. Those who had stronger quadriceps had less cartilage loss in the patellofemoral joint, which is frequently affected by OA.

    "A stronger quadriceps muscle helps keep the patella from moving laterally and tracking abnormally with movement," reports lead researcher Shreyasee Amin, M.D., a Mayo Clinic rheumatologist. "Our study results emphasize that it’s important to encourage people with knee osteoarthritis to maintain strong quadriceps muscles as recommended by their physician."

    Osteoarthritis of the knee occurs when the cartilage that cushions the ends of the bones in the knee joint deteriorates over time. As this cushion wears down the joint does not function as well and can cause pain that varies from a mild inconvenience to a debilitating condition.
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    Originally Posted by 46and2 View Post
    That's what I always thought. I have been doing one-leg squats with no weight and using a doorway to balance
    I started doing body squats as I'm not trying to build such a massive physique. I've worked my way up to a reasonable weight, but, I'm not going too heavy because I don't want to get injured. I workout mostly for the sports I play. I think doing squats, no matter what weight is used, is probably the most effective exercise you can do.
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    If he's not a sports doctor and/or a proper chiropractor/kinesiologist, 99% of the time he won't have a clue what he's talking about.
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    Originally Posted by jmusclehead View Post
    I started doing body squats as I'm not trying to build such a massive physique. I've worked my way up to a reasonable weight, but, I'm not going too heavy because I don't want to get injured. I workout mostly for the sports I play. I think doing squats, no matter what weight is used, is probably the most effective exercise you can do.
    heavy weight doesn't equal injury.
    bad form and heavy weight equals injury.
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    Originally Posted by papi93 View Post
    Seek a doctor in Sports Medicine, not from a general practice. Most general practice doctors have never touched a free weight in their life.
    Ditto
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    Originally Posted by MoGeaYuglay View Post
    heavy weight doesn't equal injury.
    bad form and heavy weight equals injury.
    I agree, but, I workout in the basement of my house and I can't afford to go to heavy. If I get in trouble, I don't have a spotter to bail me out. I always try to get the form of an exercise down before going heavy with it anyways. Poor form is usually what leads to injuries, I agree with that.....
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    Originally Posted by jmusclehead View Post
    I agree, but, I workout in the basement of my house and I can't afford to go to heavy. If I get in trouble, I don't have a spotter to bail me out. I always try to get the form of an exercise down before going heavy with it anyways. Poor form is usually what leads to injuries, I agree with that.....
    ok, there is a story behind why you won't go heavy, you simply don't want to die if you fail and have to bail!

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    Originally Posted by eatingisfun View Post
    IMO most of the doctors don't really know anything about general nutrition and what is good healthy living. They don't take nutritional courses and they don't take anything that teaches them about excercise. They are really just there to diagnose things and give you pills.
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    Originally Posted by 46and2 View Post
    Why does it seem like so many doctors dislike squats? I have been hearing a pop in my right knee when doing pistols (one-leg squats) and experiencing some soreness the day after. So I saw the doctor today, and he said he wasn't worried about the pop. But he said I should be doing "stuff like leg presses" instead of squats. I know that leg presses are no replacement for squats, but it seems like my doc isn't the only one that feels this way. I think I just need to work on my form.
    hes a doctor, not a trainer, dont take training advice from a doctor
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    mm.. plus a tip if your havin problems with knee that i learned, do 2 sets of leg extensions to warm up knees and that before hitting squats, prevents injury
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