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    Russia will televise 911 Truth on Sept 11 AND Debate on Friday

    MEP: Intelligence services planned 9/11

    10/09/2008 05:30:00 PM GMT
    http://aljazeera.com/news/newsfull.php?newid=160025



    A member of the European Parliament says a calculated conspiracy involving U.S., Pakistani and Saudi secret services resulted in 9/11.


    Italian MEP Giulietto Chiesa, whose documentary film Zero is to be aired on Russian state television, has brought into question the official American version of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

    "Who knows what happened? Ninety-nine percent of the documents related to the issue have been kept confidential," he told RIA Novosti on Tuesday.

    The documentary film is based on a collection of essays by the same name which has attracted much attention in Italy since their publication in the late summer of 2007.

    The film features prominent figures including novelist Gore Vidal and playwright Dario Fo as well as retired American professor of philosophy David Ray Griffin.

    Federal Aviation Administration controllers, US Air Force pilots, military commanders and physicists also appear in the critical documentary, expressing strongly divergent opinions about what they believe happened on September 11, 2001.

    Four commercial passenger jet airliners were hijacked. Two of the airliners crashed into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, one hit the Pentagon and fourth plane crashed into a field near Shanksville in rural Somerset County, Pennsylvania.

    Washington claimed that the hijackers were affiliated with the previously little known al-Qaeda terrorists and thus declared war on Afghanistan in 2001.


    -- Press TV

    "The Truth movements goal is to wake everyone up of the realities of False Flag Terrorism so it cannot be used in the future to provoke wars and looting of countries. Airing a 9-11 Truth film to any population is within that goal. Furthermore, You cannot unite the whole country of europe and except to shove the same load of **** down their throats at the same time. It is obvious that various EU Nations are beginning to show signs that they do not want war. There is a different between Corruption and pure evil. They are dealing, not with the U.S. Government, but the source, which is Pure EVIL."


    ZERO: Investigation Into 9/11
    part 1
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...72004544976567
    part 2
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...52933753229616
    part 3
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...98608092160376

    Stephen Jones physicist

    Kevin Ryan Underwriters Laboratories

    Major General Albert Stubblebine

    William Rodriguez 9/11 survivor witness hero rescuer
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    Seriously....at least not today man.

    Just f'ing disrespectful.
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    Russia?
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    Originally Posted by Cramerica View Post
    Russia?
    Yeah, because we obviously aren't going to get any such truth from the controlled American media.

    Originally Posted by kvk1 View Post
    Seriously....at least not today man.

    Just f'ing disrespectful.
    I don't think so, the families, 1st responders, and firefighters know it was an insdie job and they're pissed off as HELL that David Rockefeller and others haven't been brought to justice for this horrific crime. If you think it's being disrespectful you need to watch Truth Rising.
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    Originally Posted by kvk1 View Post
    Seriously....at least not today man.

    Just f'ing disrespectful.
    Yes, supporting the cause of first responders and vicitms' family members is disrespectful.



    Props to Russia, even though this is politically motivated and not out of any desire for the truth.
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    Props to Russia, even though this is politically motivated and not out of any desire for the truth.
    So....props to Russia for anti-American propaganda?

    Funny how you say it's politically motivated and still assume that whatever they say will be true...
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    Originally Posted by Anti_Illuminati View Post
    Yeah, because we obviously aren't going to get any such truth from the controlled American media.
    Yeah, I'm not expecting a whole lot of truth from the fun-loving, American get alongers of Russia, either.
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    Originally Posted by FIVE OAKES View Post
    So....props to Russia for anti-American propaganda?

    Funny how you say it's politically motivated and still assume that whatever they say will be true...
    Yeah it's absurd.
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    Originally Posted by FIVE OAKES View Post
    So....props to Russia for anti-American propaganda?
    So, being anti-police state, anti-Constitution shredding H.R. 6166, anti-H.R. 3162, anti-illegal wiretapping, anti-military spy satellite surveillance against the masses is anti-American?
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    Originally Posted by FIVE OAKES View Post
    So....props to Russia for anti-American propaganda?

    Funny how you say it's politically motivated and still assume that whatever they say will be true...
    There's no propoganda in this documentary. Its not like Russia made this in an attempt to slander our government.

    I just wish it could be seen in mass by Americans as well as Russians.

    But seriously, just because its shown in Russia doesn't mean its propoganda. You can cut the russophobia around here with a knife, its so palpable.

    The Japanese are also very support of 9/11 truth, motivated by Japanese citizens killed in those towers. I suppose thats anti-American propoganda too?

    Originally Posted by Anti_Illuminati View Post
    So, being anti-police state, anti-Constitution shredding H.R. 6166, anti-H.R. 3162, anti-illegal wiretapping, anti-military spy satellite surveillance against the masses is anti-American?
    I don't know that Russia is really anti police state. Hopefully Russians see this and start questioning their own government as well.
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    Originally Posted by Anti_Illuminati View Post
    So, being anti-police state, anti-Constitution shredding H.R. 6166, anti-H.R. 3162, anti-illegal wiretapping, anti-military spy satellite surveillance against the masses is anti-American?

    Errrrr...no?

    Russian propaganda aimed at capitalizing on 9/11 conspiracy theories to turn the international community and American citizens against the American gov't is anti-American.

    You saying that Russia is just trying to help us uphold our constitution?
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    There's no propoganda in this documentary. Its not like Russia made this in an attempt to slander our government.

    I just wish it could be seen in mass by Americans as well as Russians.

    But seriously, just because its shown in Russia doesn't mean its propoganda. You can cut the russophobia around here with a knife, its so palpable.

    The Japanese are also very support of 9/11 truth, motivated by Japanese citizens killed in those towers. I suppose thats anti-American propoganda too?



    I don't know that Russia is really anti police state. Hopefully Russians see this and start questioning their own government as well.
    Maybe you're right, but pardon me for being skeptical of a 9/11 truth documentary televised in Russia and advertized by Al Jazeera.
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    A-I why dont you go out and DO something then. You have all these facts and opinins yet you do nothing but sit on the computer and bitch and moan at the rest of us. Go run for office, go protest soomeplace..you're the biggest coward of us all.

    Originally Posted by FIVE OAKES View Post
    Maybe you're right, but pardon me for being skeptical of a 9/11 truth documentary televised in Russia and advertized by Al Jazeera.

    BUT ITS NOT CNN, MSNBC or Fox News so they must be correct! All Russian/foreign news services are completely non bias and would never lie.
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    There's no propoganda in this documentary. Its not like Russia made this in an attempt to slander our government.

    I just wish it could be seen in mass by Americans as well as Russians.

    But seriously, just because its shown in Russia doesn't mean its propoganda. You can cut the russophobia around here with a knife, its so palpable.

    The Japanese are also very support of 9/11 truth, motivated by Japanese citizens killed in those towers. I suppose thats anti-American propoganda too?



    I don't know that Russia is really anti police state. Hopefully Russians see this and start questioning their own government as well.


    Stizzle, are fuqing kidding yourself? Russia makes a documentary about the USA's incident on 9-11-01 and you think it's gonna be fair and unbiased and not propoganda? Your parents must really be ashamed of you. Get your head out of your ass and realize the scope and magnitude of the situation that day and what it would have taken to conspire to create all that on ourselves. OJ was set up to, I bet, huh?
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    Originally Posted by fenixzona View Post
    Stizzle, are fuqing kidding yourself? Russia makes a documentary about the USA's incident on 9-11-01 and you think it's gonna be fair and unbiased and not propoganda? Your parents must really be ashamed of you. Get your head out of your ass and realize the scope and magnitude of the situation that day and what it would have taken to conspire to create all that on ourselves. OJ was set up to, I bet, huh?
    what do you suppose Russia is trying to get out of this? Do you think that by airing this documentary that ASKs QUESTIONS that have never been answered they're somehow benefiting?
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    Seriously....at least not today man.

    Just f'ing disrespectful.
    Completely disrespectful.
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    what do you suppose Russia is trying to get out of this? Do you think that by airing this documentary that ASKs QUESTIONS that have never been answered they're somehow benefiting?
    Anything to paint the west as evil, maniacal, manipulators will help them convey that to their people. That is why it's called propoganda.
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    Originally Posted by fenixzona View Post
    Stizzle, are fuqing kidding yourself? Russia makes a documentary about the USA's incident on 9-11-01 and you think it's gonna be fair and unbiased and not propoganda? Your parents must really be ashamed of you. Get your head out of your ass and realize the scope and magnitude of the situation that day and what it would have taken to conspire to create all that on ourselves. OJ was set up to, I bet, huh?
    LOL. It isn't a Russian documentary, you **** for brains. It was made by an Italian. I realize retard is your first language, but maybe you should work on your english more. Most Russians don't give **** if it was a inside job or not. Those planes didn't hit us.
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    Originally Posted by Anti_Illuminati View Post
    MEP: Intelligence services planned 9/11

    10/09/2008 05:30:00 PM GMT
    http://aljazeera.com/news/newsfull.php?newid=160025



    A member of the European Parliament says a calculated conspiracy involving U.S., Pakistani and Saudi secret services resulted in 9/11.


    Italian MEP Giulietto Chiesa, whose documentary film Zero is to be aired on Russian state television, has brought into question the official American version of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

    "Who knows what happened? Ninety-nine percent of the documents related to the issue have been kept confidential," he told RIA Novosti on Tuesday.

    The documentary film is based on a collection of essays by the same name which has attracted much attention in Italy since their publication in the late summer of 2007.

    The film features prominent figures including novelist Gore Vidal and playwright Dario Fo as well as retired American professor of philosophy David Ray Griffin.

    Federal Aviation Administration controllers, US Air Force pilots, military commanders and physicists also appear in the critical documentary, expressing strongly divergent opinions about what they believe happened on September 11, 2001.

    Four commercial passenger jet airliners were hijacked. Two of the airliners crashed into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, one hit the Pentagon and fourth plane crashed into a field near Shanksville in rural Somerset County, Pennsylvania.

    Washington claimed that the hijackers were affiliated with the previously little known al-Qaeda terrorists and thus declared war on Afghanistan in 2001.


    -- Press TV

    "The Truth movements goal is to wake everyone up of the realities of False Flag Terrorism so it cannot be used in the future to provoke wars and looting of countries. Airing a 9-11 Truth film to any population is within that goal. Furthermore, You cannot unite the whole country of europe and except to shove the same load of **** down their throats at the same time. It is obvious that various EU Nations are beginning to show signs that they do not want war. There is a different between Corruption and pure evil. They are dealing, not with the U.S. Government, but the source, which is Pure EVIL."


    ZERO: Investigation Into 9/11
    part 1
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...72004544976567
    part 2
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...52933753229616
    part 3
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...98608092160376

    Stephen Jones physicist

    Kevin Ryan Underwriters Laboratories

    Major General Albert Stubblebine

    William Rodriguez 9/11 survivor witness hero rescuer
    Oh the irony. Russian tv is airing this crap. One of the most corrupt and represseive regimes you will ever see is casting stones from it's high horse. Russia routinely engages in the very behaviors that you seem to find so repugnant when allegedly committed by the US. But now Russia is some beacon of truth because they are supporting you goofy notions.
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    Originally Posted by Volodya_Putin View Post
    LOL. It isn't a Russian documentary, you **** for brains. It was made by an Italian. I realize retard is your first language, but maybe you should work on your english more. Most Russians don't give **** if it was a inside job or not. Those planes didn't hit us.
    Who cares. The fact that Russian TV is airing it implies that they support such notions. The government is clearly trying to spread the idea that it was an inside job.
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    Originally Posted by FIVE OAKES View Post
    Errrrr...no?

    Russian propaganda aimed at capitalizing on 9/11 conspiracy theories to turn the international community and American citizens against the American gov't is anti-American.

    You saying that Russia is just trying to help us uphold our constitution?
    No, the American government is not involved whatsoever in 9/11. That is because that government completely ended when JFK was assassinated. This is about exposing the real global enemy - the globalist criminal elite. I can see how they would ahve a vested interest in this since the New World Order is the ones who attacked them on 08/08/08, the truth is the truth, it benefits them.


    What I meant was that all of the above what I said in the previous post is a RESULT of 9/11, and the so-called "American government" is against you and me and everyone else, they are against We The People. The fact alone that H.R. 6166 and H.R. 3162 were made law is far more than enough to warrant full domestic insurrection and overthrow of the shadow govt. as declared in the Declaration of Independence's warning against the federal government.


    The NWO knows this, but only about 2% of the U.S. population understands this fact. That's why local police are getting .50 cal machine guns and APC's as well as unmanned remote control helicopters, microwave guns, sound cannons, and other insane stuff--to use against the people. With Russia doing this, they are attacking the real enemy, the NWO. is it anti-American to talk about the FACT that we backed Georgia with NATO/British/Israeli's to carry out a sneak attack on Russia on 08/08/08? The govt. is your mortal enemy and they want to kill all of us before too many people figure that out and try to bring these criminal scum to justice. The patriot act has 100 constitutional violations in it alone. The passing of that should have resulted in the immediate arrest off all who participated or were complicit.
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    Originally Posted by fenixzona View Post
    Stizzle, are fuqing kidding yourself? Russia makes a documentary about the USA's incident on 9-11-01 and you think it's gonna be fair and unbiased and not propoganda?
    You might want to look into who made this documentary and revise your comments.

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    Originally Posted by Volodya_Putin View Post
    LOL. It isn't a Russian documentary, you **** for brains. It was made by an Italian. I realize retard is your first language, but maybe you should work on your english more. Most Russians don't give **** if it was a inside job or not. Those planes didn't hit us.

    Hey, there you are. I was hoping you would show up and add your input on this matter.

    "The Truth movements goal is to wake everyone up of the realities of False Flag Terrorism so it cannot be used in the future to provoke wars and looting of countries. Airing a 9-11 Truth film to any population is within that goal. Furthermore, You cannot unite the whole country of europe and except to shove the same load of **** down their throats at the same time. It is obvious that various EU Nations are beginning to show signs that they do not want war. There is a different between Corruption and pure evil. They are dealing, not with the U.S. Government, but the source, which is Pure EVIL."


    That quote says it all. Regardless of an Italian film maker or not, that fact remains, that it's being used as propoganda. Let's say it again... an Italian making a docu about the USA to be aired and debated in Russia. Is that not propoganda? I know the years of economic ruin and poltical striffe leaves you Russians a bit stir crazy, but get over it. So next time you want to say anything to me, make sure you address me as Sir.
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    OP negged for being a conspiraracy theory wack job... Today is NOT the day. As an active Firefighter "I DO NOT BELIEVE 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB."

    Additionally, NONE of my fellow firefighters that I work with would agree with your retarded theory.

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    Originally Posted by 1devil View Post
    Who cares. The fact that Russian TV is airing it implies that they support such notions. The government is clearly trying to spread the idea that it was an inside job.
    It's not an "idea" that it was an inside job, it was, period. Ask yourself one simple question, why the f.uck is the entire anti-terror apparatus turned against the American people? Answer that question, I absolutely f.ucking dare you to try and figure that one out, maybe that will wake you up when you think about it for a few hundred hours. The Japanese parliament has been OPENLY discussing this as well, maybe they're all "nuts" too huh? You got credentials to be a parliament member? Go take your vaccines and submit to some illegal checkpoints.
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    You might want to look into who made this documentary and revise your comments.

    Thanks.

    Who ever made it, it's being aired and debated in Russia. What does that mean? Is it just happening to run on Russian airwaves or did someone make a concious effort to put it on? That is the point. Go ahead and continue with all your other BS, but first answer that fundamental question.
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    Originally Posted by Anti_Illuminati View Post
    It's not an "idea" that it was an inside job, it was, period. Ask yourself one simple question, why the f.uck is the entire anti-terror apparatus turned against the American people? Answer that question, I absolutely f.ucking dare you to try and figure that one out, maybe that will wake you up when you think about it for a few hundred hours. The Japanese parliament has been OPENLY discussing this as well, maybe they're all "nuts" too huh? You got credentials to be a parliament member? Go take your vaccines and submit to some illegal checkpoints.
    No, it is your opinion that it was. And the anti-terror apparatus turned against us? lol please.

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    Originally Posted by Anti_Illuminati View Post
    It's not an "idea" that it was an inside job, it was, period. Ask yourself one simple question, why the f.uck is the entire anti-terror apparatus turned against the American people? Answer that question, I absolutely f.ucking dare you to try and figure that one out, maybe that will wake you up when you think about it for a few hundred hours. The Japanese parliament has been OPENLY discussing this as well, maybe they're all "nuts" too huh? You got credentials to be a parliament member? Go take your vaccines and submit to some illegal checkpoints.
    Address all of the points I made in post #21 or stfu. Constantly launching into repetative diatribes while ignoring the logical points being made highlights how delusional you in fact are.
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