Hey
I've been doing some reading online trying to find out what your body does when you consume excess protein. There seems to be 2 views on this:
1). Excreted in urea, so go to town and eat as much as you want
2). Glycogenesis: Your body converts it to glucose and if it isnt used its converted into fat.
I know in starvation 2 happens, but im eating 5 times a day so am far from it. Atm im in a cutting phase doing Carb Cycling. the reason id like to know is for my final meal i eat a pathetic amount of fish/meat in order to keep calories down. I'm wondering if i start eating more will my body convert it to fat? And if so how much of the calories will it actually convert to fat? I.e. how costly is the process calorie wise
Any threads on this would be brilliant, or web sites where i can read about it.
Thanks
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09-10-2008, 01:59 PM #1
What Does Your Body Do With Excess Protein?
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09-10-2008, 02:01 PM #2
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09-10-2008, 02:06 PM #3
You are getting terms mixed up.
Glycogenesis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycogenesis
Gluconeogenesis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluconeogenesis
Glycogenesis does not happen during starvation. If glycogenesis and gluconeogenesis are taking place, then urea will be formed and excreted at the same time.
http://www.unisanet.unisa.edu.au/08366/h%26p2ptn.htmNo sir, I don't like it.
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09-10-2008, 02:07 PM #4
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09-10-2008, 02:23 PM #9
Your body stores protein in the form of muscle. Muscle is an energetically unfavorable form of tissue and your body will only store protein if it really thinks it needs it. It would much rather use excess ingested protein/amino acids for energy or for entry into gluconeogenesis/glycogenesis.
No sir, I don't like it.
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09-10-2008, 02:24 PM #10
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09-10-2008, 06:34 PM #17
NET calories? Yes. But that's true for any energy source. Like the saying goes, it costs money to make money. The problem is that energy content of food is only grossly estimated. Bomb calorimetry does not represent the true extractable energy from foods. And direct calorimetry is not feasible for testing of all foods.
No sir, I don't like it.
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09-10-2008, 06:39 PM #18
Could this be why 'healthier' foods might have cause of a lot of individuals to lose weight constantly?
Could less processed foods require more energy to convert, while leaving processed foods to be converted rather quickly?
Thus, that would yield 'healthier' foods to actually have a lower impact calorie count then a processed counterpart.
Maybe?
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09-10-2008, 06:49 PM #19
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protein in excess carbs in excess fats in excess
will either convert to fat[excess anything carbs,fats ,etc]
released as urine,or through fecal matter
alot of this is dependent upon metabolic rate,time of intake,luecine content of the given protein,training styles or habits I should say!"you can always think of many reasons not to do anything. But how many people are willing to search for a reason [a good one] to do something" " in life there are good choices and bad choices and in between there are doors"
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09-10-2008, 06:56 PM #20
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i dont know man. scientifically u guys are obviously right. from experience however, ive ate over 600 grams of protein a day for a couple of weeks str8 just to experiment. i didnt gain an ounce of fat. where as if i eat the same amount of cals of peanutbutter i put on a few pounds... whats the deal with this.? (dont mean to hijack thread)
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09-10-2008, 07:55 PM #21
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no they werent isocaloric i kept carbs steady (very low only from vegetables and a little bit of fruit.) the difference was drastic. the protein made me feel a little bloated and washed out, but when i dropped the protein and consumed the difference in peanut butter i had to stop after less than a week because i was getting fat...
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09-10-2008, 08:03 PM #23
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09-10-2008, 08:10 PM #25
Pathetic.
You made a claim.
from experience however, ive ate over 600 grams of protein a day for a couple of weeks str8 just to experiment. i didnt gain an ounce of fat. where as if i eat the same amount of cals of peanutbutter i put on a few pounds
no they werent isocaloric
How embarrassing.No sir, I don't like it.
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09-10-2008, 08:15 PM #26
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lol i was being half sarcastic, why dont take whatever is up your ass out for a while. im soo embarassed on this online bbing forum where half the fukn people dont even go to the gym.(including you). i was making a generalization that people place way to much emphasis on dietary technicalities when they should use that effort towards an actual work ethic and determination. this **** aint rocket science and you my friend are a pretentious douche-bag that i would probably look at and laugh.. the end.
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09-10-2008, 08:20 PM #27
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09-10-2008, 08:32 PM #29
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just because you havent got laid in a very.. VERY long time (im sure medical school didnt allow you much time for socializing) dont take it out on everyone here.!!!
Hey kids dont grow up to be a stuck up 'talking head' like mr horse!
lol thanks for the neg haha i like the number 69 better anyway!! lmaofreed from desire. mind and senses purified.
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09-10-2008, 08:39 PM #30
Oops, your psychic powers have failed you again.
And if your definition of a "talking head" is someone who knows what he his talking about, then that is sad, though I'll gladly accept your insult. In my world the talking head is someone who spews ignorance just to hear his own voice. Hmm that kinda sounds like you in this thread...No sir, I don't like it.
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