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Old 09-02-2008, 06:41 PM   #1
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Clenbuterol for PCT+Insulin+IGF

Okay, for you guys that answered my first thread on "Clen for PCT"....thanks for you experience. I forgot to mention however that I'm also cycling some other things for my post cycle. My post cycle is as follows:

Proviron PCT weeks 3-7
Nolvadex 20mg PCT weeks 3-7
HCG PCT weeks 1-3
LR3 IGF1: end of AAS cycle weeks 11-12, PCT weeks 1-3
Humalog for duration of IGF to increase its activity hours

Now, Ive read on Big Cats Steroid Profiles that Clen actually reverses the effects of insulin...mainly releasing glycogen back into the blood stream. Now this would mean that nutrients like protein and carbs would be released back into the blood stream also. And if clen does that to insulin, it should also have a negative affect on IGF1 as IGF mimicks insulin along with its muscle hyperplasia effects. Ive also read that insulin is catabolic to fat tissue obviously. What I hadn't read before that I read recently is that its also catabolic to MUSCLE TISSUE. In conclusion, everything Ive read recently on clen on this site has contadicted everything Ive read before. The reason I started to include clen in the first place was all the good reviews it gets for a PCT drug. I even read in July's Muscular Development(yeah the one with bodybuilding.com's Jamie Eason...hottie of the hottie's) that HUMAN studies have recently been conducted and they concluded that clen is great for PCT. Its slightly anabolic to muscle tissue anc burns fat like a mutha! It cuts down on cortisol levels which is very beneficial during PCT as cortisol levels become high due to the absence of high Test Levels. So I guess what I'm asking for is PERSONAL EXPERIENCE with clenbuterol...not what we've all read because different info sources state different things. It was already answered from a couple of you guys that it definitely helped you maintain gains but what about while taking Slin and IGF? I'm also a member of Muscle Morphism.com and a senior member told me I had nothing to worry about...that clen is great for PCT and if it reversed insulins cell storage effects of nutrients, fat, protein, and basically whatevers in your blood stream....then every diabetic would be on clen to avoid getting fat. This does make sense and is a valid point...but it is only one source. So anybody else with some knowledge, experience, and advice would be very helpful in aiding me in having a succesful PCT. So feel free to give me all you got...
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Old 09-02-2008, 06:56 PM   #2
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may want to delete this and move it into the AAS thread rather than the cycle log subthread
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Old 09-03-2008, 04:56 AM   #3
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Yeah man but the AAS thread won't accept any new threads right now.
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I am not sure if i am reading this wrong or you wrote the post wrong, however insulin is not catabolic on fat tissue or muscle tissue, it is the very opposite. If you meant to say clen, then yes it is. Clen has proven to be anabolic in animal studies, however what most studies will not say is that the animals that showed an anabolic effect from using clen were only the animals that did not have beta 3 receptor cells. Humans have these, and is thought that it is because of this, it is not anabolic to humans

I am currently running clen, igf, and humalog, and have had no problem whatsoever putting on weight. However i am not doing pct at this moment either, but am on no other substances IE AAS. The clen is not reversing the effects of insulin, just keeping some fat off me from the slin
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